Classic will start with Onyxia and Molten Core.

[Neveragain]

Just announced today, 6 levels of progresion. No DM at release.

[Methais]

DM = Dire Maul I'm guessing?

Would make sense. IIRC Dire Maul kind of trivialized Molten Core a bit, or at least made bypassing UBRS gear and shit a thing. I think.

[Taernath]

Is it still 1.14?

[beldannon5]

i thought dire maul was pretty basic. now blackwing lair that was fun

[Parkbandit]

i thought dire maul was pretty basic. now blackwing lair that was fun

That was a guild killer.

[beldannon5]

40 people trying to do all that stuff was tough.

[Methais]

i thought dire maul was pretty basic. now blackwing lair that was fun

It was, but it had good gear from what I remember.

[Parkbandit]

40 people trying to do all that stuff was tough.

It was. Some of my most fun gaming though. Dar, Matray, Scynd,etc...

I miss Dar (aka Tea & Strumpets here) :(

[Some Rogue]

You had to do the tribute runs in DM for the good stuff.

God, Dar and Scynd, that is two names I hadn't thought of in awhile. Dar was such a nut...best times I had in WoW.

[Parkbandit]

You had to do the tribute runs in DM for the good stuff.

God, Dar and Scynd, that is two names I hadn't thought of in awhile. Dar was such a nut...best times I had in WoW.

Yup. And Anticor.. he was fun to play with.

Rennick was a douche though. So was Nekk.

[Some Rogue]

Yeah, but I wasn't cybering Kalandra like you were.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, but I wasn't cybering Kalandra like you were.

Um, that was Woten.... right in front of Talladar(sp?)....

[Some Rogue]

Um, that was Woten.... right in front of Talladar(sp?)....

Sure sure, you were the one making her moan. lol

[Neveragain]

Is it still 1.14?

Here is the info that was released today.


At BlizzCon 2018, we proposed a plan to give Classic four content phases. These were planned to be centered primarily on raid power progression.

Currently, based on both your feedback and our own deliberations, we’re now planning to increase it to six phases. Our focus is still primarily on player power-progression, but we’re also aiming to capture what it felt like to play in a realm community in original WoW. To do that, we’re planning to mirror the approach taken by original WoW, with patches paired together. We’ll launch Classic with content from original WoW through patch 1.2.x, then the second update will include content that was in original WoW 1.3 and 1.4, the third Classic update will have 1.5 and 1.6 content, and so on.

Our first phase primarily focuses on launching Classic with Onyxia and Molten Core, but we’ve decided to hold off on Dire Maul for a while. Maraudon is still in the first phase, because it was originally released on December 18, 2004, just two weeks after the first player hit level 60, but we recognize that Dire Maul is in a different category. Some of the loot that’s attainable from Dire Maul is so good that it would affect progression through those early raids. We’re also planning to hold off on releasing Kazzak and Azuregos at launch as well, for the same reasons.

The next change we’re targeting addresses two concerns. First, Zul’Gurub and Blackwing Lair unlocking at the same time would differ from how they originally came out, and it makes sense to not have gear and enchants from Zul’Gurub available during early progress into Blackwing Lair. Secondly, the Emerald Dragons should be available earlier than the opening of Ahn’Qiraj, as they give us a way to start preparing nature resist gear for some of the encounters in AQ.

Along the way, we’ve taken a close look at items that provide the biggest power gains, many of which were introduced in 1.10 as part of a sweeping dungeon itemization pass. That patch was when Tier 0.5 gear was introduced, and Relics were added to the drop tables of many bosses. It also adjusted drop rates and drop locations of a lot of gear (to make room for the Relics). We’ve gone back and reconstructed many of the most heavily affected drop tables as they existed prior to the 1.10 patch, and we’re planning to update the drop tables alongside the Ahn’Qiraj War Effort. Prior to the Ahn’Qiraj unlock, most of the drop rates and locations will look as they did in the patches prior to 1.10, with exceptions—there are lots of little changes made in earlier patches that don’t have a big effect on player power, and in those cases, we’re planning to use the 1.12 drop rates and locations.

One example of the many items we’re planning for is: Titanic Leggings, which is a world drop that first appeared in 1.10. We can confirm that it will be controlled by the same content unlock that restricts the other 1.10 loot changes.

Here’s what the release order currently looks like:

Phase 1 (Classic Launch)

Molten Core
Onyxia
Maraudon
Phase 2

Dire Maul
Azuregos
Kazzak
Phase 3

Blackwing Lair
Darkmoon Faire
Darkmoon deck drops begin
Phase 4

Zul’Gurub
Green Dragons
Phase 5

Ahn’Qiraj War Effort begins
Ahn’Qiraj raids open when the war effort dictates
Dungeon loot reconfiguration: Tier 0.5 Dungeon gear, Relics, drop rates and location changes
Phase 6

Naxxramas
Scourge Invasion
We haven’t yet determined exactly when phases 2-6 will occur, and PvP content is notably missing from the list above. That’s because we’re still evaluating our options regarding PvP rewards, as they also changed over time (both in power and in terms of which PvP reward items were available).

While we can’t elaborate on every detail of every step we’re going to take (yet), we’re here reading all of your questions and we’re going to keep the answers coming.

Thank you!

[Parkbandit]

Sure sure, you were the one making her moan. lol

Oh.. I can't help being a sex symbol.

[Alfster]

Is it still 1.14?

Looks like they backed it up to 1.12.

I think it's a good move. Ill be playing classic for sure.

[Stumplicker]

To be honest, I'm more eagerly awaiting the remastered Warcraft 3, but I do think the classic could be decent. I think a lot of people are going to get annoyed with it having remembered it through rose tinted glasses, but I really do miss the people on your server being recognizable, and 30 hour long alterac valleys.

Edit: Also, I don't remember. Are LBRS and UBRS pre-DM, or were they after? Those were fun.

[Methais]

To be honest, I'm more eagerly awaiting the remastered Warcraft 3, but I do think the classic could be decent. I think a lot of people are going to get annoyed with it having remembered it through rose tinted glasses, but I really do miss the people on your server being recognizable, and 30 hour long alterac valleys.

Edit: Also, I don't remember. Are LBRS and UBRS pre-DM, or were they after? Those were fun.

The QoL changes not being there is going to take out a fair chunk of the people playing Classic. Probably.

[Stumplicker]

The QoL changes not being there is going to take out a fair chunk of the people playing Classic. Probably.

Fo sheezy. People forget that all those little updates and improvements were made for reasons. 1-60 used to be a gigantic forever-grind of fetch quests where you went back to the same area over and over and over again. Stuff that no MMO could get away with today. I mean, Gemstone players won't see any problem with it, as we never stopped the forever-grind. But the general population is largely going to dislike it after a short while.

[Taernath]

Fo sheezy. People forget that all those little updates and improvements were made for reasons. 1-60 used to be a gigantic forever-grind of fetch quests where you went back to the same area over and over and over again. Stuff that no MMO could get away with today. I mean, Gemstone players won't see any problem with it, as we never stopped the forever-grind. But the general population is largely going to dislike it after a short while.

Literally running out of quests was balls.

I wonder if they're going to reset progress every couple of years.

[RichardCranium]

I told myself I wasn't going to play but I probably will.

[Methais]

I told myself I wasn't going to play but I probably will.

I'm still telling myself I'm not going to play but I probably will.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I won't be playing. I think it'll have some allure for those who played, for a very short while, then they'll remember why they stopped and move on. Only if they somehow figure out how to bring real guilds back and teamwork will it be successful, and I doubt they'll attract the base to do that.

[Neveragain]

I won't be playing. I think it'll have some allure for those who played, for a very short while, then they'll remember why they stopped and move on. Only if they somehow figure out how to bring real guilds back and teamwork will it be successful, and I doubt they'll attract the base to do that.

Private servers have dedicated raid guilds that are building rosters now. Classic is going to have huge numbers.

[Nephelem]

There is no fucking way I am ever playing WoW again. So yeah, will probably give it a shot.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Private servers have dedicated raid guilds that are building rosters now. Classic is going to have huge numbers.

Time will tell. I don't see it. Good luck to them though, I really enjoyed the time I played.

[Methais]

There is no fucking way I am ever playing WoW again. So yeah, will probably give it a shot.

:lol:

[RichardCranium]

I'm down to get together on a server with PC members.

[Methais]

I'm down to get together on a server with PC members.

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[1. General - Barrens] [Richardcranium]: WHERE THE FUCK IS MANKRIKS WIFE!!!!!!one11

[Methais]

[1. General - Barrens] [Richardcranium]: WHERE THE FUCK IS MANKRIKS WIFE!!!!!!one11

[1. General - Barrens] [time4fun]: Why are you so worried about where his wife is? She's a strong independent woman and can think for herself. Sexist.

[Stumplicker]

What I really want to know is - will the server pvp list come back? Not only was it fun recognizing the people you went up against every day, but that weekly-updating list was great, and tied to the best pvp rewards. I leveled my first character entirely with those pvp tokens you could trade in for exp back in the day, and was in the top 50 of my server's list before I hit 60. Got all sorts of shit for it because most of the rewards you had to be 60 to use. Anyway, that was fun.

[Methais]

What I really want to know is - will the server pvp list come back? Not only was it fun recognizing the people you went up against every day, but that weekly-updating list was great, and tied to the best pvp rewards. I leveled my first character entirely with those pvp tokens you could trade in for exp back in the day, and was in the top 50 of my server's list before I hit 60. Got all sorts of shit for it because most of the rewards you had to be 60 to use. Anyway, that was fun.

What PvP list? All I remember from vanilla pvp was the race to High Warlord. Which sucked huge balls as well as small balls, both with AIDS.

[Maerit]

The only PvP that mattered happened at Tarren Mill and in the Barrens.

[Stumplicker]

The only PvP that mattered happened at Tarren Mill and in the Barrens.

That reminded me of this. I'm one of the dancing boomkin in the video. NO BIG DEAL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRrc0HMxt0

[Taernath]

Revamping those zones for Cata was the worst decision ever.

PvP in Arathi was big on my server. There was a call for defenders so I flew to Refuge Point, ran up the ramp carpeted in skeletons, and as soon as I cleared the ridge I was hit with a minute long lag spike. I came back and was dead, but it was hella fun.