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Betheny
09-15-2003, 06:54 AM
I have a question. I was at a premium alteration. The woman holding the event, presumably one of Tigermist's characters, allowed this to go:

She has long, rainbow-hued hair worn in pigtails that fall to her shoulders.

But she would not allow my character to have 'soulful' eyes, because they convey emotion. Does this make any sense? Can't someone have deep or soulful eyes? I think so.

What the hell is wrong with feature alterers lately? I see some really crazy ones. If you see 'em, list 'em.

Btw, I ended up with 'soft' eyes. I still fail to see how one can have 'soft' eyes, but not 'soulful' eyes.

...

HappyGuyJr
09-15-2003, 07:10 AM
Sorry hon.. I have to agree with the Alterer in this case.

"Soulfull" is not a feeling, nor is it an apearance... it's a direct reflection of a person's character.

That's what RP is for... 'soft' I can see.. 'soulfull'.. no.. sorry :no:


Originally posted by Maimara
I have a question. I was at a premium alteration. The woman holding the event, presumably one of Tigermist's characters, allowed this to go:

She has long, rainbow-hued hair worn in pigtails that fall to her shoulders.

But she would not allow my character to have 'soulful' eyes, because they convey emotion. Does this make any sense? Can't someone have deep or soulful eyes? I think so.

What the hell is wrong with feature alterers lately? I see some really crazy ones. If you see 'em, list 'em.

Btw, I ended up with 'soft' eyes. I still fail to see how one can have 'soft' eyes, but not 'soulful' eyes.

...

Ilvane
09-15-2003, 07:32 AM
Maybe assist and ask what the guidlines are?

Ilvane has expressive eyes, I would think that's kind of on the same line. I don't really see the problem with soulful. Of course, I'm not a GM either.:grin:

-A

SpunGirl
09-15-2003, 07:45 AM
I don't see the issue with soulful, but when I got my eyes done I wasn't allowed to get "smoldering," either. The rainbow-hued hair is weird, when I see people in Elanthia with odd colors I always think of ravers.

-K

Warriorbird
09-15-2003, 08:54 AM
Well...I suppose they didn't want your eyes to be on fire...

SpunGirl
09-15-2003, 08:57 AM
But "fiery" was allowed, it's what I have.

-K

Betheny
09-15-2003, 09:30 AM
Yeah, one of those fancy auctioned items, the flamberge I believe, from the Anfelt gives you 'firey black eyes'... I just don't quite understand why they allow some but not others. And wouldn't 'soft' be an emotional reflection?

Soulpieced
09-15-2003, 10:08 AM
Soulless however would be alright in my book. Because that can be conveyed at hollow, unflinching, etc.

HappyGuyJr
09-15-2003, 10:21 AM
Sorry again hon :( but no.

'Soft' in this case is an adjective, helping to describe something as it exists. So would 'Fiery'. They can help to extend the detail of a persons facial expression or the apearance of someones eyes, but they don't reflect the nature of the persons character BEHIND the eyes.

Unfortunately, symantecs and two-stance similarity based debates tend to blur the line between 'what is', and 'what could'.

Much like arguing that the word 'what', sounds remarkably similar to the word 'watt', so why cant you use both?

Sorry, but a line has to be drawn somewhere... or the bluring just goes farther and farther.. :(


Originally posted by Maimara
Yeah, one of those fancy auctioned items, the flamberge I believe, from the Anfelt gives you 'firey black eyes'... I just don't quite understand why they allow some but not others. And wouldn't 'soft' be an emotional reflection?

Betheny
09-15-2003, 10:26 AM
First off, don't tell me that my OPINION is wrong. My opinion is not WRONG.

Secondly, the word 'soft' is not describing the coloration of the eyes. It is describing the eyes themselves. I fail to understand why they would allow any adjectives at all that would describe eyes. If they're going to disallow some, they ought to disallow them all, and stick simply to colorations.

GemstoneFan
09-15-2003, 10:26 AM
I'm sure Daina will be posting as soon as she sees this one. Daina wasn't allowed to get "dangerous glint" but I've since witnessed a few alters that technically should not have been allowed.

Here are two examples:

1. Starfairy Magicdust <tries not to puke all over her kb>
She has beguiling amethyst eyes and rosy skin.

2. XXXX Person has a mischevious look in her eye

If mischevious is allowed then why not dangerous?

Betheny
09-15-2003, 10:28 AM
Maimara has haunted eyes.

I saw someone else with haunting eyes.

The haunted, I can see as okay. Why? It describes the person themselves. Haunting/beguiling? Sorry, you're telling my character to have an emotional reaction. Not gonna happen.

One can have expressive or soulful eyes and not remain perpetually mournful or happy or whatever.

AnticorRifling
09-15-2003, 11:35 AM
I have captivating onyx-hued eyes. That same night I gave someone the idea for soulful and she got them. Same alterer told me scars were not allowed yet you see them everywhere. Some idiot even has a banana scar or some crap. Don't expect consistancy, just have to roll with it. If the alterer isn't giving you the answer you want get something else or pass and wait to get your idea done by the next one to come along.

That's why I haven't had my armor done in a year, still waiting to find one to say yes :cool:

StrayRogue
09-15-2003, 11:38 AM
We can't have build alters any more, but again, as always, it depends on the GM doing them.

Betheny
09-15-2003, 11:43 AM
I still think it's utterly useless to have rules that are bent or broken.

Really... really useless.

Betheny
09-15-2003, 11:47 AM
Having features that denote a certain demeanor or tone about your character is like having a permatone. Like Garr, for instance.

The other thing that bugs me about features is when people end up with really idiotic ones. Like, say, the rainbow colored hair. Or the banana shaped scar. Or the kind blue eyes and angelic hair.

Nah... I think if people can get away with that kind of bullshit, we should be able to have whatever freaking eyes we want. And I was very insulted when she took my idea and turned it into something that she probably suggests to everyone else. If I'm going to pay for work... which, incidentally, I didn't, someone paid for me, so I didn't bitch at all, I would hope that the alterer would have some better ideas. :\

Betheny
09-15-2003, 11:48 AM
And yes -- figures are illegal. Maimara has forbidden features. Although, I'd think that figures would be more allowable than... freaking... glowing hellish green eyes or something.

Tsa`ah
09-15-2003, 11:55 AM
I like Tigermist, but she has never been consistant on what she allows.

I've seen her allow emotion type feature alters, and then disallow them on the next person.

Betheny
09-15-2003, 12:01 PM
And just FYI?

"Soulful" is an adjective according to the Oxford dictionary.

This would be why I even bothered to dare to ask for it.

[Edited on 9-15-2003 by Maimara]

Crazed Sylvan
09-15-2003, 01:24 PM
One of mine was allowed to have "intense" as one of the words when he got his eyes altered.

ElvenRangeress
09-15-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
I don't see the issue with soulful, but when I got my eyes done I wasn't allowed to get "smoldering," either. The rainbow-hued hair is weird, when I see people in Elanthia with odd colors I always think of ravers.

-K

funny you mention ravers, because the person with rainbow hair in game actually is a raver irl :P

peam
09-15-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by ElvenRangeress

Originally posted by SpunGirl
I don't see the issue with soulful, but when I got my eyes done I wasn't allowed to get "smoldering," either. The rainbow-hued hair is weird, when I see people in Elanthia with odd colors I always think of ravers.

-K

funny you mention ravers, because the person with rainbow hair in game actually is a raver irl :P

Sounds like a moron trying to bring his/her real life persona into game. Drag them into the streets and behead them.

Miss X
09-15-2003, 01:39 PM
my empath has michevious eyes, it wasnt what I wanted but it was the closest to what I asked for that she would do. She has a skin alter too.... I wasnt allowed soft sun-blushed though, even though someone else in the room had rose-blushed!
It depends on the GM, I had a weapon that I wanted made tiny, but the merchant would only do under-sized, but when another merchant did my shield, she did it tiny and changed the weapon too cos she didnt like under-sized.
V.

Hips
09-15-2003, 02:42 PM
The reason why people are (supposed to) not be allowed to have body-alters is because the GMs are currently working on an addition to the feature pavilion which would change your body shape the same way you can change your eyes, hair, etc.

The people who already have their body changed? They'll have two different body shapes showing.

Darynth told me this, and since he's some GM's merchant, I figure it's reliable.

[Edited on 9-15-2003 by GS3 Michiko]

Some Rogue
09-15-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Maimara
Maimara has haunted eyes.

I saw someone else with haunting eyes.

The haunted, I can see as okay. Why? It describes the person themselves. Haunting/beguiling? Sorry, you're telling my character to have an emotional reaction.

I actually have haunting eyes on one of my plat characters as well. Meant to get haunted but I was tired and said haunting...should probably get that fixed sometime I guess.

Oh, and here's a bad alteration I saw too..

He appears to be immature and shorter than average. He has sleepy, glacial blue-white eyes and alabaster skin. He has short, stylishly messy blue hair which sticks straight up in numerous spots, giving the impression of recently being awoken.

ElvenRangeress
09-15-2003, 05:45 PM
i asked for sun-kissed blonde highlights and they said no ;o( but someone else got the same thing! now i'm p*d but its ok, i'm happy with what i DO have..

DCSL
09-15-2003, 05:46 PM
My Nalfein's got cunning, mismatched grey and black eyes. Yes, cunning should probably not have been allowed. There are times when I could see it not fitting, like if she were crying and sad... although that's never happened since she got her feature alteration. But I like it because it fits her most of the time and it's a fantasy game and I say FUCK IT.

Same thing goes with hair colors found out of nature. I swear, you guys... supposedly, stereotypically, gamer geeks outcast from society for your differences playing a fantasy game where supposedly anything is possible and you pick on anything out of the ordinary. I realize the stereotypes probably don't apply to everyone, or even most, I was just making a point. Don't beat me up over this one.

Why couldn't he have blue hair? Why couldn't he have magically dyed it? Why couldn't he have physically dyed it? Why couldn't it be a symbol of some aspect of his life? What if his parents bore him and he came out with blue hair and they immediately took at as a sign to dedicate him to Charl and that's what happened?

Come on. Open your minds a little.

GemstoneFan
09-15-2003, 05:47 PM
awoken?! Is that even a word?

DCSL
09-15-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by GemstoneFan
awoken?! Is that even a word?

........yes.

Caramia
09-16-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Miss X
I wasnt allowed soft sun-blushed though, even though someone else in the room had rose-blushed!

Rose is a color, and is actually a pretty good adjective to describe the color of a blush. Sun-blushed? Sweetie... that's called a sunburn.

Betheny
09-16-2003, 02:46 AM
Okay, so I figured I'd try and get a concrete response, since I'm sick of everyone and their mother's opinions on what the deal is.

So I emailed someone. Here is the email I sent.

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:03 AM
Subject: A few questions on features and alterations.

I am under the impression that you run a feature alterer. Lately, I've
noticed a lot of inconsistencies in the feature alterations I see on
various
people. I was hoping perhaps you could give me a brief explanation or
list
of the guidelines applied to feature alterations, if there are any.

Thanks for your time,

-Beth, player of Maimara.


And lo and behold. I got a response!

Here it is, the facts straight up, or as straight as they can get. A big thanks for the timely response. Who knew it didn't take a week to get an answer, LOL!

From : "GM Lothwyn" <GS3-Lothwyn@play.net>

To : "'Beth" <uwishuhadmyemail@usuck.com>
Subject : RE: A few questions on features and alterations.
Date : Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:43:58 -0400
Hello:

Yes, I'm one of the current few who run feature alterers, up to this
point - we're starting to train some more GMs in the ability to spread
it out among the populace.

Guidelines for feature alterations are a tough issue at the moment, and
I'll only be able to give you the brief rundown as they are currently
still being tweaked a little bit to conclusion. I assume when we're
finished and have them set in stone, we'll be releasing them to the
player populace much like regular alteration guidelines.

Features must withstand the test of time. (Wet hair, blood-stained
hair, etc, won't.)

Features cannot be altered to do supernatural / unnatural things.
(Glowing eyes would be an example.)

Personalities / Inner traits / Opinionated adjectives should not be used
to describe features. (Describe the feature itself, not how you think
someone would think it looks, i.e.; elegant, beautiful, soulful,
sophisticated, hypnotic, charming, child-like, haunting, etc.)

Features must be consistent with known features of existing races in
Gemstone III/IV. (Slitted eyes for an elf would not be allowed. NO
ANIMAL-LIKE FEATURES.)

Handicaps are not allowed to be incorporated into feature alterations.
(Glass eyes / cataracts are an example.)

Tattoos are not allowed in feature alterations. Neither is branding or
piercings. Scars are allowed so long as they don't mimic combat scars.

The one concept Gemstone III/IV lives on is that players are ALIVE -
most of the time. (No undead/death features, i.e.; wrinkled decaying
skin or the like.)

Hair has the most flexibility of all feature alterations. (Yes, hair
can be dyed any colors.) Eyes and skin, however, must remain a natural
color FOR THAT RACE.

Body builds, statures, auras, presences and the like are not allowed.
This was originally going to be designed into the system, but there were
second-thoughts. There is a current mechanic reason for this, and I
don't see it changing anytime soon.

That is a brief run down of the key important parts of feature
alterations that most players have confusion on or are not aware exist.
I know there currently are features out there that exist, that shouldn't
-- all that I can say is that there's a chance of something in the works
to handle the matter. Hopefully, however, this has cleared up some of
your confusion or questions you might have. If not, don't hesitate to
send me another e-mail, I'm happy to help.

Regards,

GM Lothwyn

[Edited on 9-16-2003 by Maimara]

Solkern
09-16-2003, 02:52 AM
Can you get like.....She has long brown hair, green eyes, and a fucked up nose?

Solkern
09-16-2003, 02:54 AM
Not those exact words, but you get my drift

Betheny
09-16-2003, 02:55 AM
You might be able to. As you can get 'a broken nose' as a pre-set from the pavilion.

Adhara
09-17-2003, 03:51 PM
First time I look at Balouga who is one of the feature alterers.

You see Balouga Belo.
She appears to be a Giantman.
She appears to be wizened with age. She has unforgiving, angry dark eyes and tanned weathered skin. She has unruly, thick fiery red hair with long bangs that partially cover her eyes. She has an angular face and a small mole to the left of her mouth.

I think her eyes are a prime example of what is NOT allowed.

Betheny
09-17-2003, 04:15 PM
Wow, that's a damned good example, Adhara.

DCSL
09-17-2003, 04:37 PM
GMs and merchants do not lead by example. They go by the 'we're in power so we get to do WHATEVER we want' philosophy. Which I think is idiotic, but then... I'm not in charge.

Betheny
09-17-2003, 04:53 PM
I think that some GMs and merchants do lead by example.

It seems like only a few GMs are really qualified to do feature alterations, however, they keep training people to do substandard jobs. Why? There's a great demand for feature alterers.

SpunGirl
09-17-2003, 05:41 PM
"He appears to be immature and shorter than average. He has sleepy, glacial blue-white eyes and alabaster skin. He has short, stylishly messy blue hair which sticks straight up in numerous spots, giving the impression of recently being awoken."

This is just silly. First off, my character would not consider anyone with messy hair "stylish." Second, I don't like being told what impression I'm given by the hairdo itself.

Outlandish colors, like the rainbow hues or whatever, are also silly. I'm sorry to be so closed-minded or whatever (ha!) but I think this falls under the category of what GM Lothwyn said about feature alters withstanding the test of time. If a girl dyes her hair a myriad hue of rainbow colors, it's NOT going to last forever.

And if it's plausible for a character to be born with a weird color like blue or green, then they should insert the choice into the character manager.

Otherwise it shouldn't be allowed.

-K

CrystalTears
09-17-2003, 05:48 PM
Or at least if they're going to change the hair color that it say "dyed" in front of it so that people don't get the impression that you can be born with it.

SpunGirl
09-17-2003, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Or at least if they're going to change the hair color that it say "dyed" in front of it so that people don't get the impression that you can be born with it.

I agree, Crystaltears, but if it's dyed an unnatural color it should fade. I can't imagine any Elanthians have special color-holding shampoos, not to mention the growout.

-K

ElvenRangeress
09-18-2003, 12:15 AM
correct me if i'm wrong, but i've seen someone with spiky orange hair, isn't that kinda ooc??

DCSL
09-18-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by ElvenRangeress
correct me if i'm wrong, but i've seen someone with spiky orange hair, isn't that kinda ooc??

Eh, not really. There are some really outlandish looking red/orange colors in real life. My best friend has BRIGHT ORANGE hair. I mean... BRIGHT. Same color as his freckles. His eyelashes are blonde close to his eye then go to the same orange color. Two-tone eyelashes.

LYNCH HIM, HE'S A FREAK!!

SpunGirl
09-18-2003, 04:12 AM
I'll repeat what I said.

If odd colors like blue or green are to be considered "natural" colors that one can be born with in Elanthia, then put them in the character manager. If not, then I'll assume hair must be dyed that color. If that's true, then those colors don't make any sense for feature alterations, because hair dye IS NOT PERMANENT AND DOES NOT STAND THE TEST OF TIME IN ELANTHIA.

No one is suggesting that your best friend is a freak. Calm down.

-K

CrystalTears
09-18-2003, 04:15 AM
That's why I suggested to add the word "dyed" in there. I'm willing to deal with roleplaying that they dye their hair every once in a while, or discovered a permanent dye. This IS a magical world, is it not? Some things are just better not being completely realistic.

Praefection
09-18-2003, 04:21 AM
I think with the new influx of new races it could be possible to allow newer colors. If I recall corecctly, the half krovlin are allowed to have blue maybe green hair. RP wise I can see it was being possible to have their blood flowing through their veins. I really don't mind the more outlandish colors/styles. They add a lot of variety to people instead of the "hip length, flowing, cascasing, blah, blah blah". In my mind, Elanthia is a world of magic that is at times barbaric (think midevil times) and yet very sophisticated (airships, anyone?) so it could easily be possible to hair colors that nature didn't intend.

SpunGirl
09-18-2003, 04:22 AM
CT, I agree with you that would be more realistic/plausible. However, I'm just going off of what Lothwyn said about what the rules are or will be in the future. It doesn't seem like dyed fits well into that whole structure.

-K

CrystalTears
09-18-2003, 04:29 AM
Personally I don't think hair should have any styles other than in a ponytail, bun, braids or whatnot. They should do away with specific styles such as spiked, windblown, bouncing curls, and other things like that since styles doesn't always keep. It's raining and someone still has spikey hair? I think not.

StrayRogue
09-18-2003, 08:49 AM
They have yo-yo's in this game and if anyone wants a laugh, look at Tsin. IT IS FANTASY. Wtf is up with these pointless rules. They started out well, and as usual, a dumb-ass minority goes and ruins it for the rest of us. I know of atleast one exception to all of those rules posted above. Bloodstained hair, build alters, age alters, the lot.

Again, the GMs are too concerned with realism when most often reality is the single reason we are here playing in a FANTASY game.

Artha
09-18-2003, 10:25 AM
Yes, there are some bad alterations. GMs are people too. They get tired, they make mistakes. Whatever. The rules are also always changing...occasionally, someone'll get lucky.

It's like katanas (currently, anyway).

Caramia
09-18-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Again, the GMs are too concerned with realism when most often reality is the single reason we are here playing in a FANTASY game.

That's right. As they say in their documentation, a MEDIEVAL fantasy game. Gotta have some kind of guidelines to follow to keep it in that genre.

DCSL
09-18-2003, 05:00 PM
I think you guys are going over-the-top with the realism thing. It's a game. It's fantasy. Let someone be their fantasy. Geez.

And I am calm.. I was joking about the lynching freak part.. although he is a freak. But for entirely different reasons.

StrayRogue
09-18-2003, 07:31 PM
Exactly Dex. Yes do need guidelines and rules, however, trying to make it ultra realistic as self-defeating.

Adhara
09-18-2003, 08:00 PM
I care more about enforcement of the rules and consistency than about how realistic or not the rules are.

DCSL
09-18-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Adhara
I care more about enforcement of the rules and consistency than about how realistic or not the rules are.

Ditto, and I'm glad to hear it. The inability of some GMs to follow their own rules really irritates me.

Betheny
09-19-2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Adhara
I care more about enforcement of the rules and consistency than about how realistic or not the rules are.

Hear hear.

From the letter I posted, it sounds like there's something in the works to bring everything to baseline.

Caramia
09-19-2003, 05:02 AM
The inability of some GMs to follow their own rules really irritates me.

Aside from a couple, I can't think of any other merchants I've visited in recent months that are inconsistent. Maybe if we named names here, those merchants might get a clue and read their own darn guidelines!

StrayRogue
09-19-2003, 01:27 PM
Never visited Sukara Caramia? She did an ice age item recently.

DCSL
09-19-2003, 02:48 PM
Shh. Don't finger Kyalia's merchants. She's very consistant. Consistant about not obeying policy. But at least it's consistant.

Hips
09-19-2003, 03:14 PM
Bindi, who is also Sukara. Bindi is the one who made all the garters at the Artisan Faire.

SpunGirl
09-19-2003, 04:52 PM
Let's not bring up the garters again, I beg of you. I've had enough of picturing one person drolling all over another person's ear.

-K

CrystalTears
09-19-2003, 06:36 PM
Garters! Gah!

Slowly I turn... step by step... inch by inch...

StrayRogue
09-19-2003, 06:56 PM
Hey I love Kyalia merchants - I generally get what the fuck I want.

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by CrystalTears
Garters! Gah!

Slowly I turn... step by step... inch by inch...

You came here... on a porpoise! Damn you for making me remember my RHPS tech days.

StrayRogue
09-19-2003, 07:03 PM
You Stay Nten.
He appears to be youthful and has a huge wang.

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
You Stay Nten.
He appears to be youthful and has a huge wang.

The key word here, is 'appears.' Ha ha.

Betheny
09-19-2003, 07:06 PM
New train of thought, if only for a moment.

I was one of the lucky few who got some of the first feature alterations available. Meaning, I got the full work-up. I rather wish I could flag some of them on and off...

Drew2
09-19-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Maimara
New train of thought, if only for a moment.

I was one of the lucky few who got some of the first feature alterations available. Meaning, I got the full work-up. I rather wish I could flag some of them on and off...

You're still a dirty half-breed. :P

StrayRogue
09-19-2003, 07:10 PM
Appear. Yes. The biggest your sheltered Nalfein has ever seen my dear ;)

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:12 PM
Yay, the ruse is successful. People think Lysistrata is a delicate, sheltered hothouse flower. Muah.

Betheny
09-19-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Appear. Yes. The biggest your sheltered Nalfein has ever seen my dear ;)

:?::?::?::?::?::?::?:

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Maimara

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Appear. Yes. The biggest your sheltered Nalfein has ever seen my dear ;)

:?::?::?::?::?::?::?:

Heh, he meant my Nalfein, Lysistrata. He thinks she's sheltered. :saint:

StrayRogue
09-19-2003, 07:18 PM
Oh she's a dirty bitch is she? We really, REALLY need to get our characters to meet Dex ;)

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by StrayRogue
Oh she's a dirty bitch is she? We really, REALLY need to get our characters to meet Dex ;)

Heh, is there no happy medium between being a madonna and being a whore?

Betheny
09-19-2003, 07:20 PM
Nalfein are fun.

Stray's pretty fun too!

DCSL
09-19-2003, 07:31 PM
I remember when Maimara was half-Nalfein before being half-Vaalorian. I kept reminding myself to have Lysistrata go up to her and greet her as a sister Nalfein (Strata believes half-elves have their uses so she doesn't mind them too much) but then you changed her!

Betheny
09-19-2003, 07:35 PM
Yeah, the nalfein thing was a boo-boo to begin with. I assumed they were going to give us a culture flag when I changed it... boy was I wrong. :\

Caiylania
10-29-2003, 03:57 AM
Yup, its cheesy. Try saying it 3x fast

Betheny
10-29-2003, 07:13 AM
How can you have starry-eyed eyes but not haunted or anything like that?

Consistency is a drug Simu needs to start freebasing and mainlining.

AnticorRifling
10-29-2003, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Lady Daina
She has wide silver speckled starry-eyed blue eyes

Does this look really cheesy to anyone else but me?

Starry-eyed eyes? You can be starry-eyed, someone is starry-eyed but I don't think that's a proper adj to just use like that.

Not to mention silver speckled starry-eyed is redundant as hell.

Hips
10-29-2003, 10:32 PM
Question for you all...

I want to redo Michiko's hair if I get picked tonight by Marbide, but I honestly have no idea what to do to it. Raziras wouldn't make me what I wanted at the Artisan Faire, so now she has: hip-length, glossy silver-streaked honey blonde hair that cascades to her hips in soft waves.

The cascading and waves have GOT to go, because I want something a tad more original.

So... any ideas? I'm begging you. :)

Myshel
10-29-2003, 11:34 PM
How about ripples to her hips?

Hips
10-30-2003, 12:02 AM
It's something that can't be done- I wanted leaves in her hair, but you can't have something in your hair that can be removed.

As of right now, I have: She has silky, silver-streaked honey blonde hair that falls to her hips. I think I want to say that her hair curls at the tips, around her hips? But I'm not sure how to word it.

Betheny
10-30-2003, 12:03 AM
You sho uld get dirt in your hair. Dirt is sexy.

Hips
10-30-2003, 12:06 AM
OMG, <3 Daina.

Hips
10-30-2003, 12:20 AM
Help, Edaarin is trying to mold me into his perfect trophy wife!

(Edaarin's char) whispers, "i don't like blondes =("
(Edaarin's char) whispers, "I like the eyes."
(Edaarin's char) whispers, "Pouty lips wouldn't hurt either <g>"
(Edaarin's char) whispers, "...you should go Asian."
(Edaarin's char) whispers, "And get like chopsticks in your hair or something"
You quietly whisper to (Edaarin's char) "Whoa there buddy, I'm not gonna make myself your perfect trophy wife"
(Edaarin's char) whispers, "had to try"

:lol:

[Edited on 10-30-2003 by GS3 Michiko]

Sean
10-30-2003, 12:30 AM
he we both know who wears the pants in this one ... you should just get him to alter his eyes and we wont have this problem

Edaarin
10-30-2003, 12:53 AM
Hey, watch it, don't make me change my siggy.

And Tijay, at least I don't flirt with Klaive's leftovers.

EDIT: And god damn it Tijay, Edaarin is a honky, not Asian. That means no squinty eyes.

[Edited on 10-30-2003 by Edaarin]

Kiesha
10-30-2003, 02:18 AM
She has hypnotically penetrating, yet comforting silver-flecked storm grey eyes and olive skin.

Another of those that shouldnt have been allowed

JustMe
10-30-2003, 06:52 AM
That is horrible. Most likely the worst feature alter I've ever seen.

Ilvane
10-30-2003, 07:34 AM
There were a few long ones tonight.

My bard got one!

She appears to be a Human from Jantalar.
She appears to be in the prime of life and shorter than average. She has long-lashed jade green eyes and ivory skin. She has long, silky ebon hair that cascades to her waist in elegant spirals. She has a heart-shaped face and rosy cheeks.

-A

AnticorRifling
10-30-2003, 09:22 AM
Get split ends.

StrayRogue
10-30-2003, 09:29 AM
Arghhhhhh No more cascading.

Ilvane
10-30-2003, 10:16 AM
Yeah, I known cascading is used, but at least it's short.;)

-A

Edaarin
10-30-2003, 10:29 AM
Solution to feature alterations:

Paper bags.

Zir
10-30-2003, 10:32 AM
Whoo, I got one too. Cunning, silver-traced cerulean eyes. Doesn't quite roll off the tongue, but it's alright.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
10-30-2003, 10:39 AM
I think you should get corn rows Michiko, and a T-shirt that says "I'm with Stupid"

Wezas
10-30-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I think you should get corn rows Michiko, and a T-shirt that says "I'm with Stupid"

Or, as a sign offering services in a nearby city said, "cornrolls". Not sure I'd want to get corn rows from someone who doesn't know what it's called.

Wezas
10-30-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by GS3 Michiko
I want to redo Michiko's hair if I get picked tonight by Marbide, but I honestly have no idea what to do to it.

Shortish bright red hair. Something like this(linked because it's a large gif):

http://members.cox.net/legendwezas/willow.gif

Mmmmm. Willow cell phone screensaver goodness.

Zir
10-30-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I think you should get corn rows Michiko, and a T-shirt that says "I'm with Stupid"


I once saw some altered Giantkin armor with elven runes emblazoned on it. I'm quite certain the runes must have said "I'm with stupid." and had an arrow pointing upward.

Drew2
10-30-2003, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
Or, as a sign offering services in a nearby city said, "cornrolls". Not sure I'd want to get corn rows from someone who doesn't know what it's called.

Actually, Tayvin is right. It's cornrows (one word). Corn rolls are eaten.

You don't want to know how I know, but I do. Google if you don't believe me.

Edaarin
10-30-2003, 11:22 AM
...heh I should try to get a do-rag altered. And a platinum signet ring, and a chain or two...

HarmNone
10-30-2003, 11:24 AM
They do cornrows now?:o

HarmNone is feeling a little sick

Ilvane
10-30-2003, 12:05 PM
No, not that I have seen yet.

-A

Wezas
10-30-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Tayre

Originally posted by Wezas
Or, as a sign offering services in a nearby city said, "cornrolls". Not sure I'd want to get corn rows from someone who doesn't know what it's called.

Actually, Tayvin is right. It's cornrows (one word). Corn rolls are eaten.

You don't want to know how I know, but I do. Google if you don't believe me.

Tool, I was pointing out that the person who wrote the sign didn't know how to spell it. And that I wouldn't want to get my hair done by them.

Nice trolling though.

Hips
10-30-2003, 12:13 PM
No, I did not get cornrows. Or red hair, for that matter. I changed her from a blonde to a brunette, though. So much for all her character pictures, heh.

Wezas
10-30-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by GS3 Michiko
Warclaidhm [subdued]: "Fruitcake is my favorite"


Everytime I see that I think of Cecile in Cruel Intentions. "Dr. King is my favorite"