Real time and cost of the new WPS system

[dex]

https://i.imgur.com/Xq4AkbR.gif

The table above assumes a 10x T5 maxed out weapon/armor for the bloodscrip costs.

If you want to find out your own costs for your weapon/armor, look them up in either of these tables:

If doing 10 services per smithy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bztou2ls86thb84/wps.htm?dl=1

If doing 20 services per smithy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4opx2gw82jlf5i/wps20.htm?dl=1

[dex]

Kinda hilarious really. Made this for myself as I was curious, but wanted to share. Anyone got 52k usd for a wondrous weapon in only 83 years?

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/Xq4AkbR.gif

:lol:

[SonoftheNorth]

"iT's FoR PoOr PeOpLe WhO CaN't AffOrD tHe CuRrEnT SyStEm"

[Taernath]

https://pics.me.me/dam-son-34710371.png

[Vishnell]

How do you figure $207 for 20 services? I just had 20 services done to my armor and it was 6300 bloodscrip. At $6 per 1k, that just under $38.

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[dex]

I'm using 10x T5 weapons/armor as base.



|--------------------Summary---------------------|
Item: some massive dwarven plate covered in intricate ancient runes
Modified Padding Type: Damage
Current Service Window Count: 0
Estimated Costs:
Next Service: 791 bloodscrip
Next 5 Services: 3958 bloodscrip
Next 10 Services: 8906 bloodscrip
Next 15 Services: 20781 bloodscrip
Next 20 Services: 34635 bloodscrip
Next 25 Services: 78177 bloodscrip
|------------------------------------------------|




|--------------------Summary---------------------|
Item: a blood-spattered warblade
Modified Weighting Type: Critical
Current Service Window Count: 10
Estimated Costs:
Next Service: 2458 bloodscrip
Next 5 Services: 12292 bloodscrip
Next 10 Services: 26633 bloodscrip
Next 15 Services: 71706 bloodscrip
|------------------------------------------------|

[kutter]

How do you figure $207 for 20 services? I just had 20 services done to my armor and it was 6300 bloodscrip. At $6 per 1k, that just under $38.

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I was thinking the same thing, I bought 150 runs, and got 20 services added to 3 separate items and gave some scrip to a friend so she could get 20 services added to something of hers and I still had scrip left over. And I bought some footwraps that were 12500 bloodscrip, so not sure how that number was derived.

[kutter]

I'm using 10x T5 weapons/armor as base.

Well crap, I guess so then.

[rolfard]

10 services (base price) is 1273 I think. Many things I had done cost that much including 7x perfects

[Fortybox]

When Wyrom sees this chart:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J9QuQlDE1wA7xhm/giphy.gif

[dex]

I took maxed weapon/armor as base as that's a common point of reference for everyone, that's where everyone gets to eventually when upgrading weapons. Of course to account for every possible weapon out there would require 100 different tables.

[Ardwen]

Only 100? So when are you starting them?

[Methais]

When Wyrom sees this chart:

https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J9QuQlDE1wA7xhm/giphy.gif

https://media1.tenor.com/images/710eed2d359b9c40644c8f9c854e4bc8/tenor.gif?itemid=7810656

[SonoftheNorth]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/710eed2d359b9c40644c8f9c854e4bc8/tenor.gif?itemid=7810656


https://media.giphy.com/media/R4mn3MfNRmlCU/giphy.gif

[dex]

Only 100? So when are you starting them?

Cause Ardwen asked and I'm a nice guy, here are the tables:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bztou2ls86thb84/wps.htm?dl=1

These are for TEN services per smithy event. Find the column with the total scrip cost of your TEN services. It's an html file cause it's too big to post.

[Fortybox]

Cause Ardwen asked and I'm a nice guy, here are the tables:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bztou2ls86thb84/wps.htm?dl=1

These are for TEN services per smithy event. Find the column with the total scrip cost of your TEN services. It's an html file cause it's too big to post.

10 services takes too long. I would think most folks do 20.

[dex]

10 services takes too long. I would think most folks do 20.

Okay, for the more baller types, here's the table for 20 services per smithy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4opx2gw82jlf5i/wps20.htm?dl=1

[Tgo01]

Wyrom upon looking at the charts: So what you're all saying is we need more paid events every year?

[Astray]

Wyrom upon looking at the charts: So what you're all saying is we need more paid events every week?

Fixed.

[dex]

This WPS system is so messed up I can't understand how it actually made it into the game. Didn't anyone look at the actual scaling and time frames involved? Like, how is this a thing.

[Tgo01]

This WPS system is so messed up I can't understand how it actually made it into the game. Didn't anyone look at the actual scaling and time frames involved? Like, how is this a thing.

This seems to be the gaming model for games these days; put as much paid extras into games as possible. Sad thing is though the games are typically free to play otherwise, not requiring a 15 dollar base subscription besides. And no one better mention the F2P aspect of this game.

[dex]

This seems to be the gaming model for games these days; put as much paid extras into games as possible. Sad thing is though the games are typically free to play otherwise, not requiring a 15 dollar base subscription besides. And no one better mention the F2P aspect of this game.

There's P2W, sure, and then there's this kind of absurdity. The type of scaling we're seeing here makes no sense at all. 17 years to get an MCW weapon now? WTF?

[Fortybox]

There's P2W, sure, and then there's this kind of absurdity. The type of scaling we're seeing here makes no sense at all. 17 years to get an MCW weapon now? WTF?

It was never intended for someone to scale up their armor all the way. Gone are the days where stupidly "unbalanced" items are in the game unless you're willing to give Simu the $.

[Ardwen]

man I feel cheated, that was way to simple, cna you post in crypto currencies too?

[Donquix]

This WPS system is so messed up I can't understand how it actually made it into the game. Didn't anyone look at the actual scaling and time frames involved? Like, how is this a thing.

I mean previously you basically could NEVER get weighting added to anything and gemstone has always been a game on a scale of years, not months. The WPS system is IMO better than fucking enchant making your item unusable for god damn 7 months still if you want to go 4-7x (speed enchants be damned, i can't fucking believe this facet of enchant was kept). In the simu world anything over somewhat WPS is considered high end these days, and anything over heavy is exceptional. You can get somewhat in 3 smithys without really breaking the bank on most items.

I do wish the smithy was more freely available outside of duskruin though. The system is entirely more reasonable with the smithy than hoping for the crapshoot of merchant spins.

[dex]

man I feel cheated, that was way to simple, cna you post in crypto currencies too?

Yes, it goes like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV19nAuYC_4

[dex]

I mean previously you basically could NEVER get weighting added to anything and gemstone has always been a game on a scale of years, not months. The WPS system is IMO better than fucking enchant making your item unusable for god damn 7 months still if you want to go 4-7x (speed enchants be damned, i can't fucking believe this facet of enchant was kept). In the simu world anything over somewhat WPS is considered high end these days, and anything over heavy is exceptional. You can get somewhat in 3 smithys without really breaking the bank on most items.

I do wish the smithy was more freely available outside of duskruin though. The system is entirely more reasonable with the smithy than hoping for the crapshoot of merchant spins.

Before, the chance of getting a nice or epic weapon was slim, but it was there. Now it's actually zero, that's the difference.

[dex]

What’s the chart start looking like if going 200 services at a time?

That's when you have your attorney draft a letter to stillfront hq outlining terms of acquisition bid.

[dex]

With the kind of cash floating around here it's perplexing that players have not yet formed a holding LLC just to buy gemstone and self-manage it.

[Fortybox]

With the kind of cash floating around here it's perplexing that players have not yet formed a holding LLC just to buy gemstone and self-manage it.

GS population indexes much higher in mental illnesses than the standard population. There's no way players could self-manage it.

[Donquix]

Before, the chance of getting a nice or epic weapon was slim, but it was there. Now it's actually zero, that's the difference.

i'm sorry what? They still put out high tier weapons at all the normal events by spinner / auction / raffle. You can also get many of those items through sizable investment if you desire to ensure it via BS / $. Those items are heavily scripted type things now, if you mean, specifically, you can't get a claidh weighted broadsword off the shelf at a random merchant that popped up in town for 200 silver that's been the case for like...25 years, might be time to let it go.

The availability of gear that would have been considered auction quality in the past is higher than it's ever been because they realized people will shovel money into the vault for them in exchange for those things.

[dex]

i'm sorry what? They still put out high tier weapons at all the normal events by spinner / auction / raffle. You can also get many of those items through sizable investment if you desire to ensure it via BS / $. Those items are heavily scripted type things now, if you mean, specifically, you can't get a claidh weighted broadsword off the shelf at a random merchant that popped up in town for 200 silver that's been the case for like...25 years, might be time to let it go.

The availability of gear that would have been considered auction quality in the past is higher than it's ever been because they realized people will shovel money into the vault for them in exchange for those things.

I'm not sure what you mean, since the WPS system came out, the greatest WPS service offering I've seen were those "5 services" (lol) offered through spinners a few times a year. That's a whole half a point of weighting... if you have none.

[neimanz1]

before rtcf weighting over masterfully wasn't really possible

[m444w]

The system where you had 50 tickets and had to spam `Join Event` at midnight and hope you had the fastest connection, and then go to the event and win the RNG (or pay a very high premium for the incredibly limited slots) to get +10 points once every 3 years was fucking terrible.

The current system is vastly superior, you can get 25 services fairly trivially at nearly every event with bonus silver-based services spun monthly. Everyone has nearly equal access to it relatively to the type of gear they are trying to improve and to top it off padding/weighting now live in their own slot.

Outside of the ICE age and RtCF getting more than MCWing was unheard of really as Neimanz said and getting even HCWing on your deathdagger of Doom (let alone wizard enchanting it) was still exceptionally costly.

[dex]

Well, regardless of how bad the old system was, fact is people do have +45 point splitter axes and +50 point spears, and many other great things from those old days. THAT will never exist, with the new system. There's not even a slim chance of making something that nice anymore.

[neimanz1]

the chances are the same as before since they never said they wouldn't offer +10 weighting again. and both those items were made after duskruin was release

[neimanz1]

+ the new wps system is for everyone instead of catering to like 10 people

[audioserf]

Under the old system I got padding: literally never

Under the new system I can get padding: pretty much once per window if I want, minimum I can get it every DR

I absolutely prefer the new way. Everyone can access it, not just the baller dozen or so.

[dex]

the chances are the same as before since they never said they wouldn't offer +10 weighting again. and both those items were made after duskruin was release

Well if that's the case, that would change everything. Still an awfully scaled system, but I wouldn't mind having a shot at those old style weighting services.

[Maerit]

The order of operations has changed.

1. Forge to perfect
2. Weight to heavy (or somewhat for blessin) via wps
3. Enchant to whatever X
4. Ensorcell
5. Trick out at the HESS

With crit randomization, more than heavy is proven a bit less useful, hence the decreasing popularity of claids.

I took 3 pieces of armor from dark and dangerous for 2500 BS to HCP for around 25k BS each doing 20 services at a time. That's less $$ than using the PP system.

[tyrant-201]

Enchant first over ensorcell? I ask because I’ve almost enough juice to finish off T5 my 5x weapon.

I ensorcell'd first, haven't encountered many problems. But my wiz is pretty high level so I haven't had anything to compare it to. Generally they say ensorc makes the project more difficult to enchant, and recommend enchanting first.