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peam
09-05-2018, 01:17 PM
Is that happening this year?

Didn't that used to be a thing?

Methais
09-05-2018, 01:35 PM
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kutter
09-05-2018, 01:44 PM
i am picking that NFL viewership will be down at least 17%. The NFL was sort of getting beyond kneeling issue and nike went and kicked them right in the balls. SO FUNNY!

SHAFT
09-05-2018, 02:40 PM
i am picking that NFL viewership will be down at least 17%. The NFL was sort of getting beyond kneeling issue and nike went and kicked them right in the balls. SO FUNNY!

The Carolina Panthers sold for a record 2.275b this past summer.

The Cowboys are valued at close to 5b, nearly 2.5 the value that forbes had it at in 2013.

The NFL split up 8.1b to the 32 NFL franchises, which was up from 7.8b in 2016.

Yeah, the NFL is hurting...

Parkbandit
09-05-2018, 04:20 PM
The Carolina Panthers sold for a record 2.275b this past summer.

The Cowboys are valued at close to 5b, nearly 2.5 the value that forbes had it at in 2013.

The NFL split up 8.1b to the 32 NFL franchises, which was up from 7.8b in 2016.

Yeah, the NFL is hurting...

Clearly you don't know how this works.

Viewership declined in 2017. As it looks now, viewership will decline even further in 2018.

Current viewership has nothing to do with money.. since the NFL was smart enough to sign multi-year deals with networks.

If viewership continues it's spiral downward, they won't be able to get as much money from advertisers or networks in the future.

Yes, they NFL is hurting.

SHAFT
09-05-2018, 04:26 PM
Clearly you don't know how this works.

Viewership declined in 2017. As it looks now, viewership will decline even further in 2018.

Current viewership has nothing to do with money.. since the NFL was smart enough to sign multi-year deals with networks.

If viewership continues it's spiral downward, they won't be able to get as much money from advertisers or networks in the future.

Yes, they NFL is hurting.

Say what you want, even if viewership/ratings are dropping, their revenue keeps rising.

In the grand scheme of things, that's all that matters.

You can claim the NFL has a real problem when they are not the top sport in the US.

Also, if it's so bad, why would Fox pay 3.3b for Thursday night games even AFTER ratings have dropped?

This isn't a big deal, just like Nike's (along with Adidas, Puma, and Under Armour) stock dropping a few points the other day. In the grand scheme these businesses will be fine.

kutter
09-05-2018, 05:17 PM
Professional sports franchises are still a good investment because the owners have figured out how to get the local governments to pay for sweetheart deals on stadiums that they then sell leases to executive boxes in. The growing trend in new professional stadiums and maybe in college too, to a lesser extent, is not huge stadium but more luxury ones with higher per ticket seats. The NFL and MLB can make money with no one in the seats because of television deals, but that formula only holds true as long as people continue to watch from home and advertisers are willing to pay the sums they demand.

I saw something the other day that was maybe the clearest indicator how much viewership has declined and what they are doing to try to get it back. Direct TV used to charge $300/season for Sunday ticket, they now give it away for free. Think about that a moment, how many people used to gladly pay that every year, I know of at least half a dozen friends and family that did, and now, only one, a single person out of six does. I realize that is a very small sample, but it still a sample. When I asked my other brother that stopped buying it, he said he will still watch the Saints some, since that is our home team, but he does not spend Sunday in front of the television anymore like he used to.

And I think Nike is still going to make money, they are a global company after all, the NFL will be hurt by it more than Nike.

RichardCranium
09-05-2018, 05:21 PM
Hey can y'all shut the fuck up for one thread?

Who's keeping track of the picks?

Parkbandit
09-05-2018, 05:41 PM
Say what you want, even if viewership/ratings are dropping, their revenue keeps rising.

In the grand scheme of things, that's all that matters.

I explained why it does matter.. you are simply unable to understand it.

I can't dumb it down anymore than how I already did.

Ask an adult to help you I guess.


You can claim the NFL has a real problem when they are not the top sport in the US.

The gap is closing. And this is from someone who loves the NFL.


Also, if it's so bad, why would Fox pay 3.3b for Thursday night games even AFTER ratings have dropped?

Because Fox believed it to be a very short term issue and the NFL stated they would address it. They did, then they waffled under the pressure as usual.

If viewership continues to dwindle, you can be sure Fox will re-negotiate. Hell, I would be surprised if Fox didn't put a viewership decline clause into the agreement.


This isn't a big deal, just like Nike's (along with Adidas, Puma, and Under Armour) stock dropping a few points the other day. In the grand scheme these businesses will be fine.

1 year.. I agree.

2 year.. not so sure.

3 year... it is a big deal.

Parkbandit
09-05-2018, 05:44 PM
Hey guys! I'll volunteer to keep track of the picks this year!

Excellent.

Get to steppin.

Ardwen
09-05-2018, 06:09 PM
Yeah do it, it was PB's turn last season and he forgot all about it, old age and all.

Parkbandit
09-06-2018, 11:50 AM
Yeah do it, it was PB's turn last season and he forgot all about it, old age and all.

That's a dirty lie.

Was never my job!

@RichardCranium step it up! #RichardCranium #DickHead

peam
09-06-2018, 12:52 PM
I'll do at least this week.

WEEK ONE:
9/6-9/10

9/6
FALCONS AT EAGLES

9/9
BILLS AT RAVENS
JAGUARS AT GIANTS
BUCCANEERS AT SAINTS
TEXANS AT PATRIOTS
49ERS AT VIKINGS
TITANS AT DOLPHINS
BENGALS AT COLTS
STEELERS AT BROWNS
CHIEFS AT CHARGERS
SEAHAWKS AT BRONCOS
COWBOYS AT PANTHERS
REDSKINS AT CARDINALS
BEARS AT PACKERS

9/10
JETS AT LIONS
RAMS AT RAIDERS

peam
09-06-2018, 12:54 PM
9/6
EAGLES

9/9
RAVENS
JAGUARS
SAINTS
PATRIOTS
VIKINGS
DOLPHINS
BENGALS
STEELERS
CHARGERS
SEAHAWKS
COWBOYS
CARDINALS
PACKERS

9/10
LIONS
RAMS 9/6
EAGLES

9/9
RAVENS
JAGUARS
SAINTS
PATRIOTS
VIKINGS
DOLPHINS
BENGALS
STEELERS
CHARGERS
SEAHAWKS
COWBOYS
CARDINALS
PACKERS

9/10
LIONS
RAMS - 48

Stunseed
09-06-2018, 12:55 PM
Eagles

Ravens
Jags
Saints
Pats
Vikings
Fins
Bengals
Steelers ( tempted )
Chargers
Broncos
Panthers
'Skins
Packers

Lions
Rams - 50 for tiebreaker purposes

RichardCranium
09-06-2018, 12:56 PM
WEEK ONE:
9/6-9/10

9/6
EAGLES

9/9
RAVENS
JAGUARS
SAINTS
PATRIOTS
VIKINGS
DOLPHINS
BENGALS
BROWNS
CHARGERS
SEAHAWKS
PANTHERS
CARDINALS
PACKERS

9/10
LIONS
RAMS

RichardCranium
09-06-2018, 01:04 PM
51 for my tie-breaker.

neimanz1
09-06-2018, 01:06 PM
9/6
FALCONS

9/9
RAVENS
JAGUARS
SAINTS
TEXANS
VIKINGS
TITANS
BENGALS
STEELERS
CHIEFS
BRONCOS
PANTHERS
REDSKINS
PACKERS

9/10
JETS
RAMS (48)

RichardCranium
09-10-2018, 03:32 PM
As it stands going into tonight:

Stunseed - 11-2-1
RichardCranium - 9-4-1
neimanz - 9-4-1
peam - 8-5-1

Everyone picked the Rams. Only neimanz1 picked the Jets. Congratulations to Stunseed on the Week 1 win. The only battle is for second place.

beldannon5
09-10-2018, 03:37 PM
damn political crap didn't see this stuff. :(

beldannon5
09-10-2018, 03:37 PM
i will take the raiders and the lions :)

RichardCranium
09-10-2018, 03:56 PM
i will take the raiders and the lions :)

Added you to the spreadsheet.

peam
09-10-2018, 04:02 PM
As it stands going into tonight:

Stunseed - 11-2-1
RichardCranium - 9-4-1
neimanz - 9-4-1
peam - 8-5-1

Everyone picked the Rams. Only neimanz1 picked the Jets. Congratulations to Stunseed on the Week 1 win. The only battle is for second place.

RC lookin' out.

I figured if I procrastinated long enough someone'd run the numbers today.

Ardwen
09-10-2018, 04:17 PM
damn forgot all about this, first week I didn't have pick in when we did it

RichardCranium
09-10-2018, 04:34 PM
RC lookin' out.

I figured if I procrastinated long enough someone'd run the numbers today.

Yeah I was bored at work last week and created a spreadsheet. I'll keep up with it if you list the teams each Tuesday.

peam
09-10-2018, 05:03 PM
Yeah I was bored at work last week and created a spreadsheet. I'll keep up with it if you list the teams each Tuesday.

aight

RichardCranium
09-11-2018, 07:33 AM
Final standings for Week 1:

Stunseed - 12-3

neimanz1 - 11-4

RichardCranium - 10-5

peam - 9-6

beldannon5 - 0-2

I'm not including ties.