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Enuch
08-24-2018, 05:33 PM
Just switched to 3x S and H after never hunting from hiding and curious what as an archer at this level will be susceptible to hiding assault. Polar bears (first thing I tried) wouldn’t even let me hide they were so perceptive.
Assume I don’t have spells when I hunt (except 401) if that will make a difference
cwolff
08-24-2018, 05:40 PM
Just switched to 3x S and H after never hunting from hiding and curious what as an archer at this level will be susceptible to hiding assault. Polar bears (first thing I tried) wouldn’t even let me hide they were so perceptive.
Assume I don’t have spells when I hunt (except 401) if that will make a difference
2x should be more than enough to hide from all but the most perceptive creatures. I've never had a rogue with more than 2x s&h and never had any problems. Do you have Smastery, well trained for your armor? Something else may be going on or you just got unlucky.
***get some spells or underhunt. It'll save you time and money on herbs, empaths and clerics. Also, the Polar Bears are well above your level, especially with only 401.
Enuch
08-24-2018, 05:57 PM
Wearing chain and have 60 ranks in armor - no CMAN at the moment. I’ll try something my lvl or a little under and give it a whirl.
cwolff
08-24-2018, 06:00 PM
Wearing chain and have 60 ranks in armor - no CMAN at the moment. I’ll try something my lvl or a little under and give it a whirl.
Since you're sniping now, you can drop to brig (some might even suggest good double leathers) and that will help you hide.
Avaia
08-24-2018, 06:14 PM
Animals and Undead (and scattered other creatures)tend to be extremely perceptive, though I can't say for certain what the difference between 2x and 3x S & H would be.
Taernath
08-24-2018, 06:15 PM
Some animals are more perceptive than others, and sometimes you can hide in front of stuff that will just search you out immediately anyway.
IIRC there's also a penalty for hiding there since it's supposed to be barren tundra.
At that level I was hunting trali in EN, they weren't too perceptive. Mastodonic leopards could sniff me out maybe 25% of the time at 2x + mass colors.
wetsand
08-24-2018, 08:22 PM
Might give Storm Giants a shot. Cold guardians will pull you out of hiding but are pretty harmless. Theres also Grizzly Bears but they are decently perceptive.
Rhovan
08-24-2018, 11:58 PM
Animals and undead are harder to hide around. As mentioned, some areas around IMT make it more difficult too. Don't worry about your armor though. As long as you are trained for it, it doesn't really matter. Vanishing is easier in lighter armors, but you don't have to worry about being hit as much in heavier armors.
If you are going the hidden route, I'd recommend picking up rank 5 in Shadow Mastery. The drop in roundtime for sneaking is great for hunting perceptive critters. Just hide one room away and sneak in if you have to.
Tarquine
08-27-2018, 12:58 AM
If you can get a bless, Varunar was great for me at that level. I was able to hide perfectly fine at only 2x. Only did lords and warhorses. Also, +1 for eventual trali. It's where I went after Varunar.
Roiken
08-27-2018, 03:49 AM
has not been mentioned i dont think, but my rogue around that level was able to hide and punch Kiramon in the face quite well, i imagine an arrow to the neck isn't that much different.
karnamm
10-10-2018, 02:00 PM
Corsair and Slayers in Rivers Rest have been absolutely excellent for me. I have become pretty wealthy it feels like - and it nice I have had zero problems picking their boxes. I am a TWC ambusher and I have always legged them first and then come back for their heads just because they have a lot of blood and I basically have completely avoided any damage. I don't think I have died from them since I was level 31. I will say though, I am almost always full dreavened. Water Walking is an absolute must.
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