Show me your buffed 917 and 519

[spraggeth]

Looking for some higher leveled wizards that are built towards using 519 and/or 917 and show me what it looks like towards cap. I have a ton of TPs and no idea what to put them into. Trying to decide on where to build my wizard from here. Thanks!

[BriarFox]

You gesture at an Ithzir adept.
A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
An Ithzir adept is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Ithzir adept.
The ground beneath an Ithzir adept suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath an Ithzir adept!
[SMR result: 215 (Open d100: 76, Bonus: 20)]
... 50 points of damage!
Incredible strike pierces heart and runs the Ithzir adept clean through!
The Ithzir adept vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The Ithzir adept no longer bristles with energy.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding an Ithzir adept suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir adept.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept becomes solid again.
The ground beneath an Ithzir adept suddenly calms.
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>


You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
An Ithzir champion is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
The ground beneath an Ithzir champion suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath an Ithzir champion!
[SMR result: 158 (Open d100: 59, Bonus: 20)]
... 40 points of damage!
Impressive shot shatters wrist!
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
The earth cracks beneath an Ithzir champion, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 172 (Open d100: 68, Bonus: 24)]
... 40 points of damage!
The Ithzir champion gets a glassy look in his eyes as blast connects solidly... or is that an icy stare?
The Ithzir champion vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir champion.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir champion.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting an Ithzir champion begins to falter, then completely fades away.
An Ithzir champion's movements no longer appear to be influenced by a divine power as the spiritual force fades from around his arms.
The ground beneath an Ithzir champion suddenly calms.


You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
An Ithzir champion is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves and is knocked to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
A war griffin soars in.
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
The ground beneath an Ithzir champion suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
The earth cracks beneath an Ithzir champion, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 73 (Open d100: -26, Bonus: 20)]
She dodges out of the way!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Your SIGN OF SHIELDS is no longer effective.
You feel drained!
>
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath an Ithzir champion!
[SMR result: 132 (Open d100: 29, Bonus: 20)]
... 25 points of damage!
Well aimed shot, punctures calf!
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Minor Acid...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
You hurl a bubbling ball of acid at an Ithzir champion!
AS: +473 vs DS: +298 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +25 = +233
... and hit for 43 points of damage!
Hit on the arm chars the skin and eats into the underlying muscles!
The bubbling ball of acid strikes an Ithzir champion, blossoming into a much larger sphere of acid upon impact.
... 10 points of damage!
Bit of acid strikes the Ithzir champion's calf leaving bright red spots.

A burst of acid from your bubbling ball of acid flies off and hits a war griffin.
... 5 points of damage!
Bit of acid strikes the war griffin's calf leaving bright red spots.
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
The earth cracks beneath an Ithzir champion, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 201 (Open d100: 85, Bonus: 34)]
... 30 points of damage!
Icy strike to the back scores a direct hit!
Glacial stalagmites erupt from the ground, impaling her!
... 50 points of damage!
Strike to right arm shatters elbow and severs forearm!
The champion's steel maul falls to the ground.
>
>sign of shields
Your dancing fingers weave a web of protection around you!
>
[ Sign of Shields: +0:17:40, 0:17:40 remaining. ]
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Minor Acid...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
You hurl a bubbling ball of acid at an Ithzir champion!
AS: +473 vs DS: +279 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +6 = +233
... and hit for 48 points of damage!
Spray of acid eats into the right hip!
The bubbling ball of acid strikes an Ithzir champion, blossoming into a much larger sphere of acid upon impact.
... 5 points of damage!
The Ithzir champion avoids the worst of the attack but still gets a singed forearm.

A burst of acid from your bubbling ball of acid flies off and hits a war griffin.
... 5 points of damage!
Acid splatters on the war griffin's cheek leaving a bright red burn!
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
The earth cracks beneath an Ithzir champion, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 136 (Open d100: 8, Bonus: 46)]
... 10 points of damage!
The Ithzir champion winces at the cold blast to the left arm.
Glacial stalagmites erupt from the ground, impaling her!
... 15 points of damage!
Strike to right hand breaks a fingernail!
>
A war griffin swoops down from high overhead!
A war griffin rakes at you with a razor-sharp claw!
AS: +445 vs DS: +547 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +4 = -61
A clean miss.
A war griffin rakes at you with a razor-sharp claw!
AS: +445 vs DS: +547 with AvD: +37 + d100 roll: +64 = -1
A clean miss.
>
An Ithzir champion struggles to rise but fails in the attempt.
>

The earth cracks beneath an Ithzir champion, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 62 (Open d100: -67, Bonus: 48)]
She dodges out of the way!
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Minor Acid...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
You hurl a bubbling ball of acid at an Ithzir champion!
AS: +473 vs DS: +268 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +21 = +259
... and hit for 49 points of damage!
Hit on the arm chars the skin and eats into the underlying muscles!
The bubbling ball of acid strikes an Ithzir champion, blossoming into a much larger sphere of acid upon impact.
... 5 points of damage!
Acid splatters on the Ithzir champion's cheek leaving a bright red burn!

A burst of acid from your bubbling ball of acid flies off and hits a war griffin.
... 15 points of damage!
Splash to chest runs off before it does worse than blister the skin.
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Wait 3 sec.
>
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath an Ithzir champion!
[SMR result: 49 (Open d100: -85, Bonus: 53)]
She dodges out of the way!
The ground beneath an Ithzir champion suddenly calms.
>
An Ithzir champion struggles to rise but fails in the attempt.
>
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Minor Acid...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Ithzir champion.
You hurl a bubbling ball of acid at an Ithzir champion!
AS: +473 vs DS: +261 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +34 = +279
... and hit for 54 points of damage!
Acid reaches the chest causing a nasty rash!
The Ithzir champion vainly struggles to rise, then goes still.
The light blue glow leaves an Ithzir champion.
The powerful look leaves an Ithzir champion.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting an Ithzir champion begins to falter, then completely fades away.
An Ithzir champion's movements no longer appear to be influenced by a divine power as the spiritual force fades from around her arms.
The bubbling ball of acid strikes an Ithzir champion, blossoming into a much larger sphere of acid upon impact.

A burst of acid from your bubbling ball of acid flies off and hits a war griffin.
... 10 points of damage!
The war griffin avoids the worst of the attack but still gets a singed forearm.
The scintillating brown light surrounding the runestaff fades some.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Cast Round Time in effect: Setting stance to guarded.

You search the Ithzir champion.
You discard the champion's useless equipment.
She had 136 silvers on her.
You gather the remaining 136 coins.
She had nothing else of value.
An Ithzir champion's body shimmers slightly, then fades from view like a dissipating phantom.
>


150 Wiz ranks. 95 Water lore.

[spraggeth]

So 410 followed by a 917? Do you hunt using it quite a bit or still find that bolts are far better? And can I ask what made you go water over fire lore?

[peam]

I have a level 70 wizard. 63 Wiz, 70 Major Elemental, 42 Minor Elemental. 68 ranks of water lore, 21 ranks of fire lore.

I find it much more efficient to bolt, but grabbed some snippets from a like level area. For what it's worth, I normally hunt Maaghara Labyrinth which is 5-8 levels above me.


519 open-handed, channel against like-level pure-based mob
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
>chan dog
You channel at a hunch-backed dogmatist.
CS: +365 - TD: +322 + CvA: +25 + d100: +93 == +161
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a hunch-backed dogmatist and he bursts into flame causing 52 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Blaze chars a hunch-backed dogmatist's left arm. What's left is unusable.
The hunch-backed dogmatist is stunned!
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to abdomen, a hunch-backed dogmatist shrieks in pain!
... 15 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left leg blackens kneecap.
The flames around a hunch-backed dogmatist continue to burn!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
>A muscular supplicant just arrived.
>prep 519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
>chan dog
>You channel at a hunch-backed dogmatist.
CS: +365 - TD: +322 + CvA: +25 + d100: +61 == +129
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a hunch-backed dogmatist and he bursts into flame causing 65 points of damage!
... 50 points of damage!
Head explodes, splattering sizzling bits of flesh and bone everywhere.
The hunch-backed dogmatist awkwardly staggers backwards, falling to his knees. "Why hast ye forsaken me m'lady, served you well I did!" beckons the dogmatist in a desperate prayer.

Silence hangs heavy in the air as the dogmatist exhales his final breath, collapsing lifelessly to the ground.
Fiery elemental energy energizes you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

519 against square-based mob ~3 levels under me
>The flames surrounding a hunch-backed dogmatist quickly die down.
>prep 519
A muscular supplicant swings a dark steel flamberge at you!
AS: +342 vs DS: +488 with AvD: +42 + d100 roll: +67 = -37
A clean miss.
>chan sup
You channel at a muscular supplicant.
CS: +365 - TD: +285 + CvA: +25 + d100: +42 == +147
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a muscular supplicant and she bursts into flame causing 54 points of damage!
The elemental energy surrounding you amplifies the attack!
... 40 points of damage!
Fire burns through neck and destroys carotid artery. Painfully bloody way to die.
With an ear-piercing cry of agony, the muscular supplicant dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.



917 against square-based mob with Call Wind knockdown first
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Call Wind...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a muscular supplicant.
A gust of wind tugs at your sleeves. Suddenly, a fierce wind rips through the area, scattering everything in its path and making it difficult to remain standing.
A muscular supplicant is knocked over by the wind.
The wind then subsides.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>inc 917 cold
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a muscular supplicant.
The ground beneath a muscular supplicant suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
The earth cracks beneath a muscular supplicant, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 144 (Open d100: 51, Bonus: 20)]
... 25 points of damage!
Pieces of an icy substance slice the muscular supplicant's abdomen to shreds!
The muscular supplicant is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>The earth cracks beneath a muscular supplicant, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 191 (Open d100: 60, Bonus: 59)]
... 40 points of damage!
Icy shards slice through the muscular supplicant's neck...leaving breathing no longer necessary -- or possible!
With an ear-piercing cry of agony, the muscular supplicant dies.
The ground beneath a muscular supplicant suddenly calms.

[peam]

Another log from my current hunting ground. Better results than I expected but bolting is more efficient.

Pure-based mob, ~8 levels higher. Call wind then Earthen Fury
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
A gust of wind tugs at your sleeves. Suddenly, a fierce wind rips through the area, scattering everything in its path and making it difficult to remain standing.
A dhu goleras is knocked over by the wind.
The wind then subsides.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>inc 917 cold
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a dhu goleras!
[SMR result: 148 (Open d100: 93, Bonus: 20)]
... 40 points of damage!
Strong strike, punctures lung!
The dhu goleras is stunned!
Glacial stalagmites erupt from the ground, impaling her!
... 45 points of damage!
Awesome shot shatters ribs and punctures lung!
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she dies.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly calms.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Same as above
>Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Call Wind...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
A gust of wind tugs at your sleeves. Suddenly, a fierce wind rips through the area, scattering everything in its path and making it difficult to remain standing.
A dhu goleras is knocked over by the wind.
The wind then subsides.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>inc 917 cold
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
The earth cracks beneath a dhu goleras, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 139 (Open d100: 61, Bonus: 20)]
... 35 points of damage!
Base of skull frozen, removing any feeling from the neck down. The dhu goleras lives just long enough to realize a painless death!
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she dies.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly calms.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Same as above
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a dhu goleras.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a dhu goleras!
[SMR result: 122 (Open d100: 79)]
... 20 points of damage!
Strike pierces calf!
It is knocked to the ground!
The dhu goleras is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>The earth cracks beneath a dhu goleras, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 46 (Open d100: -64, Bonus: 69)]
She dodges out of the way!
>Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a dhu goleras!
[SMR result: 182 (Open d100: 71, Bonus: 69)]
... 30 points of damage!
Deft strike to abdomen penetrates several useful organs!
Glacial stalagmites erupt from the ground, impaling her!
... 50 points of damage!
Incredible strike pierces heart and runs the dhu goleras clean through!
The dhu goleras opens her mouth wide and lets out a choked, shrill scream and her eyes cloud over to a solid milky white as she dies.
The ground beneath a dhu goleras suddenly calms.

~6 Levels Higher, Semi-based Mob. No Call Wind setup
Your hands glow with power as you invoke the phrase for Earthen Fury...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a shrickhen.
The ground beneath a shrickhen suddenly frosts and rumbles violently!
Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a shrickhen!
[SMR result: 107 (Open d100: 56)]
... 20 points of damage!
Strike pierces calf!
It is knocked to the ground!
The shrickhen is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a shrickhen!
[SMR result: 277 (Open d100: 159, Bonus: 67)]
... 45 points of damage!
Shot shatters shoulder and severs right arm!
>Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a shrickhen!
[SMR result: 138 (Open d100: 14, Bonus: 74)]
... 20 points of damage!
Nailed in lower back!
>The earth cracks beneath a shrickhen, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 209 (Open d100: 81, Bonus: 77)]
... 35 points of damage!
What was once the shrickhen's right leg shatters with your well placed strike!
>The earth cracks beneath a shrickhen, releasing a column of frigid air!
[SMR result: 142 (Open d100: 1, Bonus: 90)]
... 15 points of damage!
The shrickhen falters as a chill blast of air strikes his left leg!
>Icy stalagmites burst from the ground beneath a shrickhen!
[SMR result: 148 (Open d100: 7, Bonus: 91)]
... 15 points of damage!
Well aimed shot, punctures upper arm!
The ground beneath a shrickhen suddenly calms.

[Donquix]

150 Wiz ranks. 95 Water lore.

Yeesh, 150. I thought I was going relatively hard with my (oh so close to having) 128

~90 PTPs to go for 303.

[wetsand]

I'm strongly considering putting the extra spell ranks into Wizard vs MjE. Anyone know if 514(stone fist) works on flying creatures? I've had great success using 514 vs 410/512/912 as an opener.

[Maerit]

Oddly, 917 works on flying creatures. I used it all the time on fire sprites with no opener. It worked very well to stun them, and bring them to the ground.

[Methais]

Looking for some higher leveled wizards that are built towards using 519 and/or 917 and show me what it looks like towards cap. I have a ton of TPs and no idea what to put them into. Trying to decide on where to build my wizard from here. Thanks!

127 MjE / 75 MnE / 101 Wizard and both will be strong.

Immolate with fire lore isn't really any better than Immolate without fire lore anymore since the ELR nerf. You'll have a higher chance for 1-2 more hits, but it's not at all worth the TPs. With a 127/75/101 build it'll still be strong and only 13 short of max CS, and your 917 will still hit really hard too along with anything else that's based off of wizard ranks, and your 512 CS will be good too, which will help your 917 too plus shut down the target's maneuvers. Stuff that 917 struggles with will usually have a fairly low TD, so you can Immolate them or call wind + bolt. Stuff with a higher TD is usually squishy, so 917 will tear them apart.

I ran with a 202 fire lore immolate build for years. Now I have 20 fire lore for just Steam Bolt because fire lore is trash now.


Elemental Lore - Air...............| 187 87
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 160 60
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 90 20
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 130 35

Your spell lists:
Minor Elemental...75
Major Elemental...127
Wizard Base.......101

[Methais]

Your SIGN OF SHIELDS is no longer effective.
You feel drained!

Reported for sharing in game secrets.

[Methais]

I'm strongly considering putting the extra spell ranks into Wizard vs MjE. Anyone know if 514(stone fist) works on flying creatures? I've had great success using 514 vs 410/512/912 as an opener.

Unless you're really pushing hard for enchanting, 1x wizard is more than enough for a strong 917, and you still won't have any trouble with most 7x enchanting projects.

You don't want to gimp your MjE CS because you're still going to need Mana Leech if nothing else.

[spraggeth]

Don't suppose you could post a string of 519?

[peam]

Don't suppose you could post a string of 519?

I'm not trained for Immolation. Level 72, 44 ranks of minor elemental, 72 ranks of major elemental, and 65 ranks of wizard circle with 23 ranks of Fire Lore. This is me casting in offensive with one hand open:

inc 519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You channel at a shrickhen.
CS: +375 - TD: +344 + CvA: +25 + d100: +99 == +155
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a shrickhen and he bursts into flame causing 39 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Right arm scorched so bad it might as well be gone.
The shrickhen is stunned!
... 15 points of damage!
Burst of flames to back fries shoulder blades. Youch!
... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left leg burns skin bright red.
The flames around a shrickhen continue to burn!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
[Script]>A shrickhen wavers back and forth, almost falling.
[Script]>inc 519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You channel at a shrickhen.
CS: +375 - TD: +344 + CvA: +25 + d100: +51 == +107
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a shrickhen and he bursts into flame causing 25 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Flames cook a shrickhen's chest. Looks about medium well.
... 20 points of damage!
Flames engulf head searing hair and scalp. Sickening!
... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left hand burns fingers bright red.
The flames around a shrickhen continue to burn!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
[Script]>inc 519
...wait 1 seconds.
[Script]>inc 519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You channel at a shrickhen.
CS: +375 - TD: +344 + CvA: +25 + d100: +96 == +152
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a shrickhen and he bursts into flame causing 59 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Right leg horribly scorched. Won't be usable for weeks.
A shrickhen is knocked sprawling to the ground and he grasps his mangled right leg!

... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to back toasts skin nicely.
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to back. Looks uncomfortable.
The flames around a shrickhen continue to burn!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
[Script]>inc 519
...wait 1 seconds.
[Script]>inc 519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You channel at a shrickhen.
CS: +375 - TD: +344 + CvA: +25 + d100: +69 == +125
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a shrickhen and he bursts into flame causing 39 points of damage!
A shrickhen's arms, legs and head separate from his torso as the dissimilar parts collapse in a heap.
A shrickhen glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The bright luminescence fades from around a shrickhen.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a shrickhen.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


So 76 mana for one kill. Not great. Steam bolt knocks shit out of the park in fewer casts and uses like 85% less mana.

[audioserf]

519 is just so fucking inexcusably bad for 19 mana in a Major circle

[peam]

519 is just so fucking inexcusably bad for 19 mana in a Major circle

Yeah, it's complete trash. I literally can't think of a single time I've used it from 0-72 other than just messing around or for something like this. It's a waste of a spell slot.

[spraggeth]

Yes and it breaks my heart. 950 is killer but sad they made it so we can't really CS.

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[Donquix]

Yes and it breaks my heart. 950 is killer but sad they made it so we can't really CS.

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it still blows my fucking mind that neither weapon fire nor stone fist were addressed in the ELR. Both of those spells are pretty fucking close to being decent, or at least usable without being completely embarrassing.

not to mention that lol "buff" for standstorm. "now you can do 10 damage like, 5 seconds sooner!"

[Roiken]

What's embarrassing is that you guys can still bolt harder, and potentially gain a CS higher than us without an enhancement... but we got enough to let us get along

[spraggeth]

The CS isn't the big deal....it is just that it isn't good for anything. Sorcerer's have great bolts. 705 and 713 are both great IMO. I use them on my capped decently enough. Only thing I hate is that curse of the star is stupid to keep up IMO.

Nothing kills like a sorcerer at cap. My wife's capped sorc destroys with 717 on almost everything at cap. For the undead 711 is insanely powerful. For stuff that are hard to ward then bolts or focused 720. They are so good. I'm not saying that bolts are super powerful, I am just saying the recent update made it so they really have no choice but to bolt only because they have no viable spells.