Paladin weapons

[Greng]

Im looking for some input on what sort of weapon to use as a paladin. Right now I am using ohb, but it worth adding weighting to a morning star that my paladin has begun bonding with?

Any overall input on all forms of combat would be appreciated. I've even considered shielded brawling, but it's just hard to reaearch clear answers.

Thanks in advance.

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[Taernath]

From the wiki:


At the first bonding level, the weapon will gain Consecrate (1604) flares, but generally only if the weapon does not already possess flares or weighting above heavy

I take that to mean up to heavy weighting on your weapon will not interfere with bonding.

[Greng]

Reading the word "generally" just makes me think to much m.

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[Greng]

I was thinking about two handers around 75 when my stats and skills as a giantman catch up.

Are there any UAC or brawling paladins out there with input?

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[kutter]

For me the defining characteristic of a paladin is their ability generate massive AS, as such, UAC does not seem the best route since it tends to not do nearly the amount of damage. My paladin is a pole user, has been since day 1, he swings a 7X naginata and does very well, but he is an elf not giantkin. Having said that, I would say, find the fastest pole or 2hander you can and never look back. I have 2 UAC alts and they do well, but one is an empath that sets up with boneshatter and the other is a mage that spams 1 second attacks. Paladins do not have anything that can setup in the same way.

[time4fun]

From the wiki:



I take that to mean up to heavy weighting on your weapon will not interfere with bonding.

As you get more weighting, the guiding light flares become less frequent. Just something to note. They disappear completely after heavy.

I haven't tried the polearm route (which is very popular), but having done both TWC and OHB/shield- I would definitely say using a shield is a good idea.

It's really what Paladins were designed around.

[Greng]

That's good to know about UAC, thanks. I've enjoyed the ohb + tower shirld set up so for, but it seems to take a lot of swings.

I'm currently training to get into full plate asap, preferably between 50-60 so training feels tight.

With the ohb and shield set up, what methods become the best set up for a kill at higher levels - spells or cman/shield maneuvers?

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[mgoddess]

With the ohb and shield set up, what methods become the best set up for a kill at higher levels - spells or cman/shield maneuvers?
As an OHE(handaxe)/shield paladin, I tend to use 1615/1630 (once, sometimes twice, depending on how well the first one hits) and sometimes feint for set-up, then mstrike, followed by normal attacking.

[loxe]

My Paladin uses a fully bonded, perfect forged flail with 1 point of crit weighting, t5 ensorcell, and runs 35 ranks of summoning lore for an extra15% DF bonus. it is fast and the puncture / crush damage combo of the weapon results in massive amounts of crit kills. and with only 1 point of weighting i still see high frequency and high damage flares.

[Greng]

I've been having good success using a spikestar/tower shield, although it feels slow going. As a giantman, what would be a good 2h weapon to fool around with?

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[loxe]

many will say maul is the way to go, but i have had good luck with both flails and flamberge's.....being human my speed isnt real great, but i have enough enhancives to boost my agi/dex to 68 which gives me 5sec rt reduction and i can do 2 creature mstrike in 6 seconds and a 3 creature mstrike in 9 with my flail

[Pereus]

As you get more weighting, the guiding light flares become less frequent. Just something to note. They disappear completely after heavy.

I haven't tried the polearm route (which is very popular), but having done both TWC and OHB/shield- I would definitely say using a shield is a good idea.

It's really what Paladins were designed around.

This is just factually wrong. They we're designed to be either hence the 1609/1617 trade-off.

[zoraster]

I'm pretty nervous to run 1617 with a thw @ level 30. Even with 2x shield use and a 5x shield if I run 1617 I get hit a few times a hunt. I'm in chain haub so it's never resulted in my death, but I can't imagine the dodge DS/parry difference makes up for the lost shield and I'll get hit hard. Normally I'd be fine with it, but without being able to stance dance or hide or anything there's no defensive alternative but to attack hard.

[Gelston]

This is just factually wrong. They we're designed to be either hence the 1609/1617 trade-off.

Warriors are superior with shields anyways. It is odd they would design a class around being second best in something.

[Maerit]

Warriors are superior with shields anyways. It is odd they would design a class around being second best in something.

Do you mean they are superior in a specific way? Because by the math of the pure chance to block attacks, a paladin with 1609 and 2x in shield use using a tower shield is equal or greater (depending on if they have 102+ ranks in Blessing lore) to a Warrior with 3x shield use, a tower shield and 3/3 block mastery. The warrior would have 60% chance to block while the paladin would have around 62% chance to block. Unless the math is wrong. The wiki is a bit vague on block % math.

A warrior would gain more raw DS from a tower shield vs a Paladin, but that's why a paladin has all those other DS spells in their arsenal.

If you mean that warriors will have more access to shield maneuvers due to the ability to 3x in shield used, yes - they can spend more points on maneuvers and have a few that are warrior only which are pretty handy.

[Gizmo]

Warriors have a higher block chance than Paladins.

Even more so with a 1609 item.

Don’t forget tortoise stance for warriors

[Gelston]

Do you mean they are superior in a specific way? Because by the math of the pure chance to block attacks, a paladin with 1609 and 2x in shield use using a tower shield is equal or greater (depending on if they have 102+ ranks in Blessing lore) to a Warrior with 3x shield use, a tower shield and 3/3 block mastery. The warrior would have 60% chance to block while the paladin would have around 62% chance to block. Unless the math is wrong. The wiki is a bit vague on block % math.

A warrior would gain more raw DS from a tower shield vs a Paladin, but that's why a paladin has all those other DS spells in their arsenal.

If you mean that warriors will have more access to shield maneuvers due to the ability to 3x in shield used, yes - they can spend more points on maneuvers and have a few that are warrior only which are pretty handy.

It has been mathed out a few times, warriors are the superior shield users.

[Androidpk]

It has been mathed out a few times, warriors are the superior shield users.

TIL

[Donquix]

how many people went that warrior 3x shield + parry mastery + block mastery + evade mastery + tortoise stance for hardcore mode? :D

[Gizmo]

how many people went that warrior 3x shield + parry mastery + block mastery + evade mastery + tortoise stance for hardcore mode? :D

I did in Plat, it was fun.

but I did go a lil wild and make him a gnome