Official: New Treasure: Collectibles!

[Alastir]

A new treasure sub-system has been released: Collectibles!

Creatures will now drop a new type of treasure! This treasure is exclusive to treasure chests and can be sold at the pawnshop like any other treasure. However, they may also be collected and redeemed for special rewards at the new collectibles shops located in each town. The collectibles shops will also store these collectible items for you, so you don't have to use up valuable inventory and/or locker space while working towards completing a set.

The COLLECT verb can be used to keep track of what collectibles you have DEPOSITed at a collectibles shop. The previous functionality of COLLECT to collect seawater and blood for sorcery has been moved to the HARVEST verb. You can view the currently released collectible sets with COLLECT ALL (there are 35 at the time of release) and your progress towards a particular set with COLLECT SET [#]. If you are not sure if an item that you have is a collectible, you may use COLLECT EXAMINE to check if the item is collectible. Finally, COLLECT ACHIEVEMENTS lists the currently collectible achievements and your progress towards earning them.

The new collectibles shops are located:
Wehnimer's - North Ring Road
Icemule - Commerce Burrow
Solhaven - South Market
Teras - Golvern Steet
River's Rest - River Road
Zul Logoth - Ruby Tunnel
Illistim - Moonglae Var
Vaalor - Rubicaene Wey
Mist Harbor - Wisteria Crossing
Cysaegir - Treetop Platform

Coase


This message was originally posted in Game Design Discussions, Treasure System. To discuss the above, follow the link below.


http://forums.play.net/forums/19/213/2294/view/1287

[Alastir]

>collect achievements



Displaying your collectibles achievements: (Obtained achievements are in bold)
#1. Redeem a Common Set (0/1)
#2. Redeem 5 Different Common Sets (0/5)
#3. Redeem 10 Different Common Sets (0/10)
#4. Redeem an Uncommon Set (0/1)
#5. Redeem 5 Different Uncommon Sets (0/5)
#6. Redeem 10 Different Uncommon Sets (0/10)
#7. Redeem a Rare Set (0/1)
#8. Redeem 5 Different Rare Sets (0/5)
#9. Redeem an Ultra-Rare Set (0/1)
#10. Redeem 10 of a Single Common Set (0/10)
#11. Redeem 100 of a Single Common Set (0/100)
#12. Redeem 1000 of a Single Common Set (0/1000)
#13. Redeem 10 of Single Uncommon Set (0/10)
#14. Redeem 100 of a Single Uncommon Set (0/100)
#15. Redeem 1000 of a Single Uncommon Set (0/1000)
#16. Redeem 10 of Single Rare Set (0/10)
#17. Redeem 100 of a Single Rare Set (0/100)
#18. Redeem 1000 of a Single Rare Set (0/1000)
#19. Redeem 10 of a Single Ultra-Rare Set (0/10)
#20. Redeem 100 of a Single Ultra-Rare Set (0/100)
#21. Redeem 1000 of a Single Ultra-Rare Set (0/1000)
#22. Redeem 1 Set of Each Rarity (0/4)
#23. Redeem 30 Different Sets (0/30)
#24. Redeem a Common Collectible (0/1)
#25. Redeem an Uncommon Collectible (0/1)
#26. Redeem a Rare Collectible (0/1)
#27. Redeem an Ultra-Rare Collectible (0/1)
#28. Redeem 100 Common Collectibles (0/100)
#29. Redeem 1000 Common Collectibles (0/1000)
#30. Redeem 10,000 Common Collectibles (0/10000)
#31. Redeem 100 Uncommon Collectibles (0/100)
#32. Redeem 1000 Uncommon Collectibles (0/1000)
#33. Redeem 10,000 Uncommon Collectibles (0/10000)
#34. Redeem 100 Rare Collectibles (0/100)
#35. Redeem 1000 Rare Collectibles (0/1000)
#36. Redeem 10,000 Rare Collectibles (0/10000)
#37. Redeem 10 Ultra-Rare Collectibles (0/10)
#38. Redeem 100 Ultra-Rare Collectibles (0/100)
#39. Redeem 1000 Ultra-Rare Collectibles (0/1000)
#40. Redeem 10,000 Ultra-Rare Collectibles (0/10000)
#41. Redeem 100 Collectible Sets (0/100)
#42. Redeem 1000 Collectible Sets (0/1000)
#43. Redeem 10,000 Collectible Sets (0/10000)
#44. Redeem 100 Collectible Pieces (0/100)
#45. Redeem 1000 Collectible Pieces (0/1000)
#46. Redeem 10,000 Collectible Pieces (0/10000)
#47. Redeem 100,000 Collectible Pieces (0/100000)
#48. Complete all the Diety Sets (0/7)

[Alastir]

>collect all



Your sets available to be collected are as follows:

#1. Profession Figurines
#2. Polished Stones
#3. Unusual Smooth Stones
#4. Moonstone Cube Slivers
#5. White Flask Pieces
#6. Soulstone Shards
#7. Silver Wand Shavings
#8. Golden Wand Shavings
#9. Blue Wand Shavings
#10. Iron Wand Shavings
#11. Coral Wand Shavings
#12. Gold Coins
#13. Ruby Amulet Shards
#14. Pink Pearl Necklace
#15. Grey Pearl Necklace
#16. White Pearl Necklace
#17. Black Pearl Necklace
#18. Green Pearl Necklace
#19. Grindstones
#20. Rainbow Garments
#21. Divine Absolution
#22. Antique Lockpicks
#23. Fossilized Shells
#24. Meteorite Chippings
#25. Pantheon of Liabo
#26. Pantheon of Lornon
#27. Pantheon of Neutrality
#28. Spirits of Battle
#29. Spirits of Life
#30. Spirits of Power
#31. Spirits of Companionship
#32. Spell Pills
#33. Bloody Bandanas
#34. Guild Nights
#35. Heirloom of Reim

[Astray]

What does collecting these give you? Aside from the obvious random pieces?

[Alastir]

[Ta'Illistim, Moonglae Var - 617]
a small alabaster stone building.

[Antiques, Baubles, And Trinkets - ]
Stacks of wooden boxes and crates are piled high around the small room overflowing with a wide assortment of trinkets. Various bits and pieces of curiosity are stuffed inside several dust-covered display cases. The walls are lined with wooden shelves cluttered with a tangle of items. Attendants wander in and out of the aisles, pausing to peer inside a container before resuming their search.
Obvious paths: out

[Taernath]

#47. Redeem 100,000 Collectible Pieces (0/100000)

They're really going the distance with this.

[beldannon5]

seems like it could be another clusterfuck idea? least we can turn it in i guess so it won't clutter our lockers

[Velfi]

They're really going the distance with this.

#21. Redeem 1000 of a Single Ultra-Rare Set (0/1000)

[drauz]

Looks like some of them are behind paywalls.

[Taernath]

Looks like some of them are behind paywalls.

I wouldn't be surprised, but what are you referring to?

[drauz]

I wouldn't be surprised, but what are you referring to?

35. Heirloom of Reim

[Taernath]

35. Heirloom of Reim

lol... good catch

[Methais]

They're really going the distance with this.

You gesture at a sparkling shard of reflective soulstone.
Within this elementally infused shard you detect the equivalent of 32133 usable elemental souls
Cast Roundtime 1 Second.

That's my Confluence "scoreboard" so far that I've been tracking via stacking excessive kills into a reattunement crystal for the past probably 4-5 months. I usually forget to put it on so the "real" score is way higher, but even rounding it all the way up to 100k and considering the amount of grinding I do, and then factoring in the likely shit drop rate of collectibles, this is never going to be achieved by anyone, at least not without purchasing stuff from other players, if that's even going to be possible.

Even with a 100% drop rate...I doubt anyone to date has found 100,000 boxes.

A ridiculous goal like this should have a reward of free cocaine for life or something.

[Amerek]

I just want to say that this has *zero* appeal to me. I really hope that some people find this type of GAME enjoyable.

[Methais]

I just want to say that this has *zero* appeal to me. I really hope that some people find this type of shit enjoyable.

If the rewards are decent it might be ok.

But if it ends up being Pokemon for fluff...

https://pics.me.me/its-a-no-from-me-28681125.png

GS should have an achievement system, preferably with useful rewards.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/t/uUy7LKAX.png

[Amerek]

If the rewards are decent it might be ok.

You give a dark assassin a collectible Lorminstra doll with large tearful dilated eyes. He nods appreciatively at you, caressing her neon pink hair absent-mindedy.

[Fortybox]

This is why Savants will never get done.

[Methais]

You give a dark assassin a collectible Lorminstra doll with large tearful dilated eyes. He nods appreciatively at you, caressing her neon pink hair absent-mindedy.

http://i.imgur.com/EqQOTR9.gif

[Taernath]

This is why Savants will never get done.

As an added incentive, once 1000000 ultra rare sets are pieced together, Savants will be released. Happy collecting!

[Amerek]

http://i.imgur.com/EqQOTR9.gif

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/8/2/8/3/9/original/what-if-keanu-is-really-a-good-actor-acting-like-a-bad-actor.jpg

[Gelston]

There titles attached to this?

[Fortybox]

There titles attached to this?

Sucker
Gambling Addict
Pokemon Master
Keanu Reeves
Wyrom's Sugar Daddy

[Methais]

http://cf.chucklesnetwork.com/items/8/2/8/3/9/original/what-if-keanu-is-really-a-good-actor-acting-like-a-bad-actor.jpg

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/hlysht.gif

[Fortybox]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/hlysht.gif

https://media2.giphy.com/media/7EFjLXkRIsPXG/giphy.gif

[Aluvius]

#16. White Pearl Necklace

I just heard on lnet that Jeril had already completed one of these?

[Methais]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/7EFjLXkRIsPXG/giphy.gif

https://i.imgur.com/3ePn2eD.png







































































https://i.imgur.com/jVh3waH.png

[Pereus]

Sucker
Gambling Addict
Pokemon Master
Keanu Reeves
Wyrom's Sugar Daddy

Beldannon

[beldannon5]

lol

[Fortybox]

https://i.imgur.com/3ePn2eD.png







































































https://i.imgur.com/jVh3waH.png

https://media2.giphy.com/media/mt2MrX4erQFva/giphy.gif

[Hlendril]

Beldannon

Leafiara.

[Fortybox]

Leafiara.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif

[Astray]

35. Heirloom of Reim

Saw that. I gotta say this whole addition appears largely disappointing if we only collect stuff, give it to an NPC and be done with it. I don't see anything about titles or bonuses or items.

What ass.

[Gelston]

Saw that. I gotta say this whole addition appears largely disappointing if we only collect stuff, give it to an NPC and be done with it. I don't see anything about titles or bonuses or items.

What ass.

It is just more shit to do. Busy work really. Not that I'm against it.

[Astray]

It is just more shit to do. Busy work really. Not that I'm against it.

I'm largely against it being behind paywalls but... Simu gonna Simu.

[Gelston]

I'm largely against it being behind paywalls but... Simu gonna Simu.

One thing is, sorta. Can't you Reim once a day free as premium?

[Methais]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif

https://i.imgur.com/iSYtGKl.gif

https://i.imgur.com/iSYtGKl.mp4

[Astray]

One thing is, sorta. Can't you Reim once a day free as premium?

I have no idea and with the assumption that these are very rare, wouldn't it be safe to assume that once a day is potentially extremely low? I know that people who care about collectibles are going to drop some serious cash just to complete the collectibles. That's the mindset this plays off of.

[Methais]

I have no idea and with the assumption that these are very rare, wouldn't it be safe to assume that once a day is potentially extremely low? I know that people who care about collectibles are going to drop some serious cash just to complete the collectibles. That's the stupid as fuck completely lacking self control for novelty stuff they'll be bored with 2 days later mindset this plays off of.

Fixed.

I think Reim is 250k silvers 1x per day if you're Premium.

[Fortybox]

https://i.imgur.com/iSYtGKl.gif

https://i.imgur.com/iSYtGKl.mp4

https://media0.giphy.com/media/mcHOSTJMjCrjW/giphy.gif

[Maerit]

Are these labeled in any way to differentiate them from other items? I remember the annoying delirium drops that were not obviously items for dolls until you analyzed them.

[Pereus]

I dont get it. Do you get something for collecting these? Why in the hell would I waste my time looking for these things?

[Astray]

I dont get it. Do you get something for collecting these? Why in the hell would I waste my time looking for these things?

BECAUSE COLLECTIBLES!!!121one!

[Roblar]

I dont get it. Do you get something for collecting these? Why in the hell would I waste my time looking for these things?


Yes, it is an addition to the treasure system mechanic. See below of the announcement, we just don't know what the rewards are yet.


However, they may also be collected and redeemed for special rewards at the new collectibles shops located in each town.

[Wrathbringer]

I dont get it. Do you get something for collecting these? Why in the hell would I waste my time looking for these things?

This is correct.

[Methais]

I dont get it. Do you get something for collecting these? Why in the hell would I waste my time looking for these things?

You must keep in mind how retarded the average GS player is though.

[Astray]

"Special Rewards" is probably code for silvers and some form of item that isn't worth much. Like a quartz orb or something else that's a throw away.

[Gelston]

The more items you collect, the larger your penis gets.

[Astray]

The more items you collect, the larger your penis gets.

But I don't need that!

[drauz]

"Special Rewards" is probably code for silvers and some form of item that isn't worth much. Like a quartz orb or something else that's a throw away.

As long as its not the bug report "reward".

Thank you for submitted bug for XXXXX here is 100 fame and experience.

[drauz]

But I don't need that!

But once you get it long enough it can be a tripod and you get a bonus when aiming with a bow.

[Astray]

As long as its not the bug report "reward".

Thank you for submitted bug for XXXXX here is 100 fame and experience.

I honestly don't put it fucking passed them.

[Roblar]

Given the variety of collections and some of the crazier sets needing alot I'm sure the range will be wide.

Has there been a Coase release you had any issues with before?

[Fortybox]

You must keep in mind how retarded the average GS player is though.

time4dumb brings that average wayyyyy lower though.

[Methais]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/39652dd8164d74c977c960e2b91def73/tenor.gif?itemid=4498032

[zoraster]

I don't understand why they'd announce this and not announce any rewards? I don't really care even if they don't: I can just ignore it. But it's weird to do the part that is useless and not tell us the payoff.

[Methais]

I don't understand why they'd announce this and not announce any rewards? I don't really care even if they don't: I can just ignore it. But it's weird to do the part that is useless and not tell us the payoff.

This is Simu standard operating procedure. I'll be surprised if rewards even happen, at least without being useless trash.

[nindon]

I was beginning to think I would never find a collectible until I found two on my latest hunt. I have found 85 boxes since the release of collectibles on July 3. The two collectibles I found were "a rounded smooth stone" (#16) and "a handful of coral flakes" (#29). It would be easy to fail to realize that an item is a collectible.

FYI, the pawnshop would not offer to buy either of them. The gem shop offered 30 silvers for the flakes but would not buy the stone. Luckily, the gem shop did not buy the flakes when I sold a bag of gems containing the flakes.

Also, I discovered that a collection is available to withdraw in any town, no matter what town you used to make the deposit.

[Methais]

Your progress on set #13 (Ruby Amulet Shards) is as follows:
[31] a ruby shard (1/5)

I'm assuming the big prize for this one is a ruby amulet.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/oh-boy-isnt.jpg

[nindon]

What do the numbers 16 and 29 mean? Does each collectible has its own number?

Your collection is as follows:

16. (a rounded smooth stone): 1
29. (a handful of coral flakes): 1

It does not match the Collect Set #, nor does not seem to mach Collect All or Collect Achievements numbers.


When I type Collect Set 3, I get this:

>collect set 3
Your progress on set #3 (Unusual Smooth Stones) is as follows:
[11] a polished stone (0/1)
[12] an oblong smooth stone (0/1)
[13] a glossy smooth stone (0/1)
[14] a shiny smooth stone (0/1)
[15] a slick smooth stone (0/1)
[16] a rounded smooth stone (1/1)
[17] a cubic smooth stone (0/1)
[18] a flat smooth stone (0/1)
[19] an ovoid smooth stone (0/1)
[20] a heavy smooth stone (0/1)
[21] a mottled smooth stone (0/1)


And this is the result of Collect Set 11:

>collect set 11
Your progress on set #11 (Coral Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[29] a handful of coral flakes (1/10)

[Hammibal]

Fixed.

I think Reim is 250k silvers 1x per day if you're Premium.

Premium gets you one free entry every 22 hours or some shit. When it first opened, there was a pay thing for a couple weeks.

[nindon]

Here is a full list of every collectible.


collect set 1
Your progress on set #1 (Profession Figurines) is as follows:
[1] a miniature warrior figurine (0/1)
[2] a miniature rogue figurine (0/1)
[3] a miniature wizard figurine (0/1)
[4] a miniature cleric figurine (0/1)
[5] a miniature empath figurine (0/1)
[6] a miniature sorcerer figurine (0/1)
[7] a miniature ranger figurine (0/1)
[8] a miniature bard figurine (0/1)
[9] a miniature monk figurine (0/1)
[10] a miniature paladin figurine (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 2
Your progress on set #2 (Polished Stones) is as follows:
[11] a polished stone (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 3
Your progress on set #3 (Unusual Smooth Stones) is as follows:
[11] a polished stone (0/1)
[12] an oblong smooth stone (0/1)
[13] a glossy smooth stone (0/1)
[14] a shiny smooth stone (0/1)
[15] a slick smooth stone (0/1)
[16] a rounded smooth stone (1/1)
[17] a cubic smooth stone (0/1)
[18] a flat smooth stone (0/1)
[19] an ovoid smooth stone (0/1)
[20] a heavy smooth stone (0/1)
[21] a mottled smooth stone (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 4
Your progress on set #4 (Moonstone Cube Slivers) is as follows:
[22] a sliver of rough moonstone (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 5
Your progress on set #5 (White Flask Pieces) is as follows:
[23] a piece of cloudy glass (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 6
Your progress on set #6 (Soulstone Shards) is as follows:
[24] a shard of cloudy soulstone (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 7
Your progress on set #7 (Silver Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[25] a handful of silver flakes (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 8
Your progress on set #8 (Golden Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[26] a handful of gold flakes (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 9
Your progress on set #9 (Blue Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[27] a handful of icy blue flakes (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 10
Your progress on set #10 (Iron Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[28] a handful of iron flakes (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 11
Your progress on set #11 (Coral Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[29] a handful of coral flakes (1/10)
[Script]>collect set 12
Your progress on set #12 (Gold Coins) is as follows:
[30] a golden piece of eight (0/8)
[Script]>collect set 13
Your progress on set #13 (Ruby Amulet Shards) is as follows:
[31] a ruby shard (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 14
Your progress on set #14 (Pink Pearl Necklace) is as follows:
[32] a threaded pink pearl (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 15
Your progress on set #15 (Grey Pearl Necklace) is as follows:
[33] a threaded grey pearl (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 16
Your progress on set #16 (White Pearl Necklace) is as follows:
[34] a threaded white pearl (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 17
Your progress on set #17 (Black Pearl Necklace) is as follows:
[35] a threaded black pearl (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 18
Your progress on set #18 (Green Pearl Necklace) is as follows:
[36] a threaded green pearl (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 19
Your progress on set #19 (Grindstones) is as follows:
[37] a luminescent sandstone chunk (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 20
Your progress on set #20 (Rainbow Garments) is as follows:
[38] a blue cotton swathe (0/2)
[39] a yellow cotton swathe (0/2)
[40] a red cotton swathe (0/2)
[41] a black cotton swathe (0/2)
[Script]>collect set 21
Your progress on set #21 (Divine Absolution) is as follows:
[42] a whisper of divine essence (0/3)
[Script]>collect set 22
Your progress on set #22 (Antique Lockpicks) is as follows:
[43] an antique lockpick (0/5)
[Script]>collect set 23
Your progress on set #23 (Fossilized Shells) is as follows:
[44] a fossilized shell (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 24
Your progress on set #24 (Meteorite Chippings) is as follows:
[45] a meteorite chipping (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 25
Your progress on set #25 (Pantheon of Liabo) is as follows:
[46] an ornate Charl statuette (0/1)
[47] an ornate Cholen statuette (0/1)
[48] an ornate Eonak statuette (0/1)
[49] an ornate Imaera statuette (0/1)
[50] an ornate Jastev statuette (0/1)
[51] an ornate Kai statuette (0/1)
[52] an ornate Koar statuette (0/1)
[53] an ornate Lorminstra statuette (0/1)
[54] an ornate Lumnis statuette (0/1)
[55] an ornate Oleani statuette (0/1)
[56] an ornate Phoen statuette (0/1)
[57] an ornate Ronan statuette (0/1)
[58] an ornate Tonis statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 26
Your progress on set #26 (Pantheon of Lornon) is as follows:
[59] an ornate Andelas statuette (0/1)
[60] an ornate Eorgina statuette (0/1)
[61] an ornate Fash'lo'nae statuette (0/1)
[62] an ornate Ivas statuette (0/1)
[63] an ornate Luukos statuette (0/1)
[64] an ornate Marlu statuette (0/1)
[65] an ornate Mularos statuette (0/1)
[66] an ornate Sheru statuette (0/1)
[67] an ornate V'tull statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 27
Your progress on set #27 (Pantheon of Neutrality) is as follows:
[68] an ornate Gosaena statuette (0/1)
[69] an ornate Zelia statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 28
Your progress on set #28 (Spirits of Battle) is as follows:
[75] an ornate Huntress statuette (0/1)
[79] an ornate Leya statuette (0/1)
[81] an ornate Onar statuette (0/1)
[84] an ornate Voln statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 29
Your progress on set #29 (Spirits of Life) is as follows:
[71] an ornate Aeia statuette (0/1)
[76] an ornate Jaston statuette (0/1)
[77] an ornate Kuon statuette (0/1)
[74] an ornate Meyno statuette (0/1)
[80] an ornate Niima statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 30
Your progress on set #30 (Spirits of Power) is as follows:
[70] an ornate Illoke statuette (0/1)
[72] an ornate Amasalen statuette (0/1)
[73] an ornate Arachne statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 31
Your progress on set #31 (Spirits of Companionship) is as follows:
[78] an ornate Laethe statuette (0/1)
[82] an ornate Tilamaire statuette (0/1)
[83] an ornate Voaris statuette (0/1)
[84] an ornate Voln statuette (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 32
Your progress on set #32 (Spell Pills) is as follows:
[86] a small blue clay mortar (0/1)
[87] a marbled blue marble pestle (0/1)
[88] some grey-colored powder (0/1)
[89] a thin-lipped clear glass bottle (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 33
Your progress on set #33 (Bloody Bandanas) is as follows:
[90] a blood-stained bandana (0/20)
[Script]>collect set 34
Your progress on set #34 (Guild Nights) is as follows:
[91] an Elanthian Guilds Council token (0/10)
[Script]>collect set 35
Your progress on set #35 (Heirloom of Reim) is as follows:
[92] an ethereal chain (0/1)
[93] an ethereal pendant (0/1)
[94] a tiny ethereal orb (0/1)
[Script]>collect set 36
You must specify a valid collection number. To see the list of sets, please use COLLECT ALL.

[Roblar]

I'm largely against it being behind paywalls but... Simu gonna Simu.


Found the ethereal chain one (Reim collectible), in a Scatter box. So the finds aren't specific to an area.

[Astray]

I can get behind the idea of not blocking off collectibles behind a paywall if it is indeed an RNG thing and not a bug of some kind you encountered.

[Methais]

I can get behind the idea of not blocking off collectibles behind a paywall if it is indeed an RNG thing and not a bug of some kind you encountered.

Plot twist: Simu forgot to enable the paywall to enter Scatter

[Astray]

Plot twist twist: Simu implemented the Scatter as a paywall in the first place but couldn't figure out how to get micro-transactions in at the time so they've been biding their time and when it came they failed due to incompetence.

[Gelston]

Tovklar created a collectibles checker script, just make sure your containers are open when you run it.

It is collectcheck.lic

[nocturnix]

If you can get cool rewards, ie. Bag of holding upgrades, service certs, w/p/s this would be amazing and everyone would use it. If it’s just for pure epeen/weak rewards (most likely case) then my guess is most will throw this stuff out/pawn it.


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[Gelston]

If you can get cool rewards, ie. Bag of holding upgrades, service certs, w/p/s this would be amazing and everyone would use it. If it’s just for pure epeen/weak rewards (most likely case) then my guess is most will throw this stuff out/pawn it.


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The thing is, we don't know what the rewards are yet. We won't until someone completes a set, and I imagine the first set completed will be one of the very minor, easier to complete sets that will have a weaker award.

Still, no reason NOT to collect them.

[nocturnix]

The thing is, we don't know what the rewards are yet. We won't until someone completes a set, and I imagine the first set completed will be one of the very minor, easier to complete sets that will have a weaker award.

Still, no reason NOT to collect them.

Sure I just hope there are some good high-end rewards (hint: veniom threads, swatches, certs, violet orbs etc). This was more hoping a gm is lurking on this post and thinks: oh good idea, let me add that as a reward.


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[Astray]

I doubt they'd add anything that could be a DR reward, even with a super rare drop rate that these collectibles have. From what I see, it's all generic shit for a system that was implemented pretty quickly and lazily. There's nothing in this aside from its implementation that signifies true effort.

[Methais]

just make sure your containers are open when you run it.

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

Besides, if I do that, Shaft might put me on ignore.

[Methais]

I doubt they'd add anything that could be a DR reward, even with a super rare drop rate that these collectibles have. From what I see, it's all generic shit for a system that was implemented pretty quickly and lazily. There's nothing in this aside from its implementation that signifies true effort.

I wonder what year they'll announce the rewards that are supposed to make this worth the bother.

[Taernath]

Still, no reason NOT to collect them.

I dunno, it's all about time invested vs. reward. If I have to run a script separate from sloot after hunts to deposit them only to get a crystal amulet... I'll probably just empty them down a well instead.

[Gelston]

I dunno, it's all about time invested vs. reward. If I have to run a script separate from sloot after hunts to deposit them only to get a crystal amulet... I'll probably just empty them down a well instead.

(?:sliver of rough moonstone|piece of cloudy glass|shard of cloudy soulstone|golden piece of eight|ruby shard|luminescent sandstone chunk|whisper of divine essence|antique lockpick|fossilized shell|meteorite chipping|small blue clay mortar|marbled blue marble pestle|some grey-colored powder|thin-lipped clear glass bottle|blood-stained bandana|Elanthian Guilds Council token|ethereal chain|ethereal pendant|tiny ethereal orb)|miniature (?:warrior|rogue|wizard|cleric|empath|sorcerer|ran ger|bard|monk|paladin) figurine|polished stone|(?:oblong|glossy|shiny|slick|rounded|cubic|f lat|ovoid|heavy|mottled) smooth stone|handful of (?:silver|gold|icy blue|iron|coral) flakes|threaded (?:pink|grey|white|black|green) pearl|(?:blue|yellow|red|black) cotton swathe|ornate (?:Charl|Cholen|Eonak|Imaera|Jastev|Kai|Koar|Lormi nstra|Lumnis|Oleani|Phoen|Ronan|Tonis|Andelas|Eorg ina|Fash'lo'nae|Ivas|Luukos|Marlu|Mularos|Sheru|V' tull|Gosaena|Zelia|Huntress|Leya|Onar|Voln|Aeia|Ja ston|Kuon|Meyno|Niima|Illoke|Amasalen|Arachne|Laet he|Tilamaire|Voaris|Voln) statuette

Sloot sell exclusion line. Whatever you have left after you sell is collectibles. Not that hard. I'm sure Sloot will be updated eventually to handle collectibles too.

[Taernath]

(?:sliver of rough moonstone|piece of cloudy glass|shard of cloudy soulstone|golden piece of eight|ruby shard|luminescent sandstone chunk|whisper of divine essence|antique lockpick|fossilized shell|meteorite chipping|small blue clay mortar|marbled blue marble pestle|some grey-colored powder|thin-lipped clear glass bottle|blood-stained bandana|Elanthian Guilds Council token|ethereal chain|ethereal pendant|tiny ethereal orb)|miniature (?:warrior|rogue|wizard|cleric|empath|sorcerer|ran ger|bard|monk|paladin) figurine|polished stone|(?:oblong|glossy|shiny|slick|rounded|cubic|f lat|ovoid|heavy|mottled) smooth stone|handful of (?:silver|gold|icy blue|iron|coral) flakes|threaded (?:pink|grey|white|black|green) pearl|(?:blue|yellow|red|black) cotton swathe|ornate (?:Charl|Cholen|Eonak|Imaera|Jastev|Kai|Koar|Lormi nstra|Lumnis|Oleani|Phoen|Ronan|Tonis|Andelas|Eorg ina|Fash'lo'nae|Ivas|Luukos|Marlu|Mularos|Sheru|V' tull|Gosaena|Zelia|Huntress|Leya|Onar|Voln|Aeia|Ja ston|Kuon|Meyno|Niima|Illoke|Amasalen|Arachne|Laet he|Tilamaire|Voaris|Voln) statuette

Sloot sell exclusion line. Whatever you have left after you sell is collectibles. Not that hard. I'm sure Sloot will be updated eventually to handle collectibles too.

Even copy/pasting that for a crystal amulet is too much work.

[Gelston]

Even copy/pasting that for a crystal amulet is too much work.

You're just making lame excuses now. Deported to Yemen.

[Leafiara]

Found the ethereal chain one (Reim collectible), in a Scatter box. So the finds aren't specific to an area.Yep, found the same one in a Sanctum box too.




I'm getting close with a couple sets, so hopefully we'll know rewards soon enough:

Your progress on set #1 (Profession Figurines) is as follows:
[1] a miniature warrior figurine (1/1)
[2] a miniature rogue figurine (0/1)
[3] a miniature wizard figurine (2/1)
[4] a miniature cleric figurine (0/1)
[5] a miniature empath figurine (0/1)
[6] a miniature sorcerer figurine (0/1)
[7] a miniature ranger figurine (1/1)
[8] a miniature bard figurine (1/1)
[9] a miniature monk figurine (1/1)
[10] a miniature paladin figurine (3/1)

Your progress on set #7 (Silver Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[25] a handful of silver flakes (4/5)


And hey, if anyone has a spare rogue/cleric/empath/sorcerer to trade for my spare wizard/paladins...

[Hymore246]

How much do these collectables sell for at the pawn shop? It might end up being more profitable to sell them if the set rewards are so poor.

[Taernath]

I'm not 100% sure if they were regular treasure system or collectibles, but I picked up a couple of profession figurines that sold for about 200 silver at the pawnshop shortly after this was released.

[Methais]

I'm not 100% sure if they were regular treasure system or collectibles, but I picked up a couple of profession figurines that sold for about 200 silver at the pawnshop shortly after this was released.

http://blog.cleanenergy.org/files/2017/01/60771126.jpg

[Leafiara]

J>collect set 1
Your progress on set #1 (Profession Figurines) is as follows:
[1] a miniature warrior figurine (1/1)
[2] a miniature rogue figurine (1/1)
[3] a miniature wizard figurine (2/1)
[4] a miniature cleric figurine (1/1)
[5] a miniature empath figurine (1/1)
[6] a miniature sorcerer figurine (1/1)
[7] a miniature ranger figurine (2/1)
[8] a miniature bard figurine (1/1)
[9] a miniature monk figurine (1/1)
[10] a miniature paladin figurine (3/1)
J>think
You rub your chin thoughtfully. [me trying to figure out what to do since turning them in didn't do anything]
J>redeem 1
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Profession Figurines set for you."
The attendant hands you 10,000 silver as your reward.

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #1. Redeem a Common Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #24. Redeem a Common Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

>collect info
Your collection is as follows:

3. (a miniature wizard figurine): 1
7. (a miniature ranger figurine): 1
10. (a miniature paladin figurine): 2
11. (a polished stone): 2
14. (a shiny smooth stone): 2
15. (a slick smooth stone): 1
17. (a cubic smooth stone): 2
22. (a sliver of rough moonstone): 2
23. (a piece of cloudy glass): 1
25. (a handful of silver flakes): 4
26. (a handful of gold flakes): 1
27. (a handful of icy blue flakes): 2
28. (a handful of iron flakes): 2
29. (a handful of coral flakes): 1
30. (a golden piece of eight): 5
31. (a ruby shard): 1
32. (a threaded pink pearl): 2
33. (a threaded grey pearl): 1
35. (a threaded black pearl): 1
36. (a threaded green pearl): 1
39. (a yellow cotton swathe): 1
55. (an ornate Oleani statuette): 1
63. (an ornate Luukos statuette): 1
64. (an ornate Marlu statuette): 1
77. (an ornate Kuon statuette): 1
81. (an ornate Onar statuette): 1
84. (an ornate Voln statuette): 1
86. (a small blue clay mortar): 2
88. (some grey-colored powder): 2
91. (an Elanthian Guilds Council token): 1
92. (an ethereal chain): 1
93. (an ethereal pendant): 1

I'm guessing at least one of those is an uncommon or rare collectible (I'm looking at you, Elanthian Guilds Council token), so I think they don't count as redeemed until a set is complete.

[Methais]

That's even weaker than I expected.

[audioserf]

Leave it to Simu to not just, oh, give you 1000 instant EXP, but they give you the mind clearer instead. This is only worth doing if you're a completionist nerd (not knocking that at all, many find it fun), the actual rewards are garbo.

[Methais]

Leave it to Simu to not just, oh, give you 1000 instant EXP, but they give you the mind clearer instead. This is only worth doing if you're a completionist nerd (not knocking that at all, many find it fun), the actual rewards are garbo.

I bet the 100k ultra rare reward is like 100 Simucoins.

[Astray]

What a lame ass reward.

[Ososis]

Mind clearer>1000 xp

Not saying it’s a stellar reward, but at least you can use it to fast track a bounty.

[Methais]

Mind clearer>1000 xp

Not saying it’s a stellar reward, but at least you can use it to fast track a bounty.

Unless these are different than the regular mind clearer boosts, then no.

[Ososis]

Unless these are different than the regular mind clearer boosts, then no.

Different? Of course they are the same. And they are more valuable than a static 1000 xp.

[Roblar]

I agree.

Sure, someone can get less than 1k experience if they don't know what they are doing, but the boost can = the same amount plus gives you control over When to use it. Which can help get you from saturated quick to join a friend's bounty or other niche uses affecting your mind status.

[Roblar]

I don't think he thinks it clears your whole mind, the cap is known on the boost to be 1,000.

It is marginally better than a static 1k though because of the ability to choose when to clear your mind. You still only get 1k total (or less if you fuck up) but don't have to wait around as you may sometimes with back to back saturated opportunities.

[Methais]

Different? Of course they are the same. And they are more valuable than a static 1000 xp.

If they're the same, then how is one better than the other? Both are worth up to 1000 exp, both can be used whenever you want (I would assume with the coillection reward), etc.

[Ososis]

If they're the same, then how is one better than the other? Both are worth up to 1000 exp, both can be used whenever you want (I would assume with the coillection reward), etc.

I was responding to audioserfs comment about how it would have been better to get a static 1k xp.

[audioserf]

I concede that an Instant Clearer is strategically every so slightly better than a flat 1k.

Either is still a garbage reward.

[Archigeek]

I think they're a nice boost, but can't speak cor how appropriately they fit into this new system.

I mostly just save them and then burn them up while doing Duskruin arena runs. You can use one halfway through and still come out saturated at the end.

[Leafiara]

The 1k exp seems generic to any common set, and tied to the achievement... but I'm curious about the 10k silvers.

I kinda assumed the rewards were unique depending on the set, like turn in silver wand shavings and get a charged silver wand (or a pile of uncharged ones), turn in rainbow garments and get a Rainbowear item, turn in guild tokens and get a guild night form. Now I'm wondering if it's just coincidence that the profession figurines' reward is silver and it's the first one I completed, or if they're all silver.



I hope they're not all silver. :P

[Dantx]

I concede that an Instant Clearer is strategically every so slightly better than a flat 1k.

Either is still a garbage reward.

I don't and I'll actually say it is worse than just +1k perm XP (not in your mind)

With an instant mind clear, you need to bring your mind to below whatever state it is, thus giving up absorption XP (saturated to clear), since you won't go immediately back to saturated. So in actuality, the opportunity cost of the instant mind clear costs you the pulse XP you lose from bringing your mind out of saturation.

With helping a friend out in a bounty, just do it saturated, then when you get back to fried, turn it in...

Ososis has not convinced me.

[Ososis]

I don't and I'll actually say it is worse than just +1k perm XP (not in your mind)

With an instant mind clear, you need to bring your mind to below whatever state it is, thus giving up absorption XP (saturated to clear), since you won't go immediately back to saturated. So in actuality, the opportunity cost of the instant mind clear costs you the pulse XP you lose from bringing your mind out of saturation.

With helping a friend out in a bounty, just do it saturated, then when you get back to fried, turn it in...

Ososis has not convinced me.

I’m willing to explain facts, but I’m not here to convince folks that 5 is greater 4. It just is. If you look at an hour of doing bounties, one with an extra 1k added, another with a absorb boost, one nets you more XP, BP, and silver in that hour than the other.

[Archigeek]

If I'm hunting fried and use an instant mind clear, it's like printing money. 1000xp straight to the mind. In 3 minutes I'm back to fried. So maybe there's a small loss in pulse for maybe 3 pulses, in exchange for 1000xp I can't lose by dying.

[Donquix]

I’m willing to explain facts, but I’m not here to convince folks that 5 is greater 4. It just is. If you look at an hour of doing bounties, one with an extra 1k added, another with a absorb boost, one nets you more XP, BP, and silver in that hour than the other.

If it's so obvious it should be trivial to explain then.

[Ososis]

If it's so obvious it should be trivial to explain then.

It is. 3 bounties in an hour +1k experience is less than 4 bounties in a hour +1k. Being able to squeeze extra bounties gives additional BP, silver, and instant saturation absorption.

[Donquix]

It is. 3 bounties in an hour +1k experience is less than 4 bounties in a hour +1k. Being able to squeeze extra bounties gives additional BP, silver, and instant saturation absorption.

I can see you thought this through.

[Ososis]

I can see you thought this through.

Yeah, it took a while but it turns out more=more.

[Winter]

If the mind clear was in the form of a tradeable potion then it just might be worth it.

You can just sell the set and let the buyer redeem the set.

[Archigeek]

You can just sell the set and let the buyer redeem the set.

Interesting thought, but I bet you don't get the same return each time you turn in exactly the same set. If you do, you can be sure that will change.

[Leafiara]

It seems to me like the instant mind clearer is once per achievement, just considering the way it was presented...



You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Profession Figurines set for you."
The attendant hands you 10,000 silver as your reward.

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #1. Redeem a Common Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #24. Redeem a Common Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!



10k silver = reward for redeeming (guessing this is what you can get over and over for turning in the set, vs. like 1500 you'd get at the pawnshop)
mind clearer = reward for 1 common collectible set
mind clearer = reward for 1 common collectible


So if I'm right, sure, you could sell the set... once per other character, and only if they hadn't already redeemed a different common collectible set. Now just give me a year and we'll find out if these achievements are 5 and 10 instant mind clearers each, or whatever else: :P

#2. Redeem 5 Different Common Sets (1/5)
#3. Redeem 10 Different Common Sets (1/10)
#10. Redeem 10 of a Single Common Set (1/10)
#28. Redeem 100 Common Collectibles (10/100)

[Methais]

I just wanna know what they were thinking with 100k ultra rare.

[nocturnix]

How do people manage collectibles so far? In terms of identifying/storing/scripts. I use ;sloot and ;locksmith. Is there a new script for storing these collectibles in a certain container, or immediately turning them in?

Would be cool to update ;sloot ;sloot2 with collectible support.

[beldannon5]

There is a collectcheck. Which will check all yourbipen bags

[nocturnix]

;repo download collectcheck ?

[Gelston]

;repo download collectcheck ?

Yep

[Leafiara]

>collect set 7
Your progress on set #7 (Silver Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[25] a handful of silver flakes (5/5)
>collect set 9
Your progress on set #9 (Blue Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[27] a handful of icy blue flakes (5/5)
>redeem 7
Existence 97741258 created. [uh... item ID???]
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Silver Wand Shavings set for you."
The attendant hands you a silver wand as your reward.
>redeem 9
Existence 97741355 created.
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Blue Wand Shavings set for you."
The attendant hands you a slender blue wand as your reward.



The lore song says "a few charges" on both wands. Now that's sad--I at least expected a charged one. :/
And both of these were common sets, so no new achievements.

[Gelston]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Taernath]

Oof. Just like those bound crystals from boost.

[Astray]

What have I been saying, man? The rewards won't be worth shit.

[Methais]

>collect set 7
Your progress on set #7 (Silver Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[25] a handful of silver flakes (5/5)
>collect set 9
Your progress on set #9 (Blue Wand Shavings) is as follows:
[27] a handful of icy blue flakes (5/5)
>redeem 7
Existence 97741258 created. [uh... item ID???]
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Silver Wand Shavings set for you."
The attendant hands you a silver wand as your reward.
>redeem 9
Existence 97741355 created.
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Blue Wand Shavings set for you."
The attendant hands you a slender blue wand as your reward.



The lore song says "a few charges" on both wands. Now that's sad--I at least expected a charged one. :/
And both of these were common sets, so no new achievements.

Hahahahaha that's worse than even a critter found wand.

I bet the collectible ones can't be duped either. Knowing Simu, probably non-rechargeable as well. :lol:

[audioserf]

It is genuinely impressive the lengths they've gone to in order to make this entire system close to worthless. I'm stunned. Wouldn't want to give out anything too desirable and potentially cannibalize SimuCoin store sales, I guess.

[Methais]

It is genuinely impressive the lengths they've gone to in order to make this entire system close to worthless. I'm stunned. Wouldn't want to give out anything too desirable and potentially cannibalize SimuCoin store sales, I guess.

I'm pretty sure this whole system is one giant troll on the entire playerbase. They know no one is going to collect 100k ultra rares or any of that shit, and everything else has been complete shit so far, and no announcement from Simu on what the "good" rewards are supposed to be, which probably means they haven't even thought that far ahead yet.

It's amazing the amount of coding time Simu will sink into dumb shit like this. Same with the iridescent cores that literally never drop, making the entire system Viduus designed around it useless.

[audioserf]

I'm not really mad at it from a coding standpoint because different GMs talents lie in different areas, and if someone was only ever going to make fluff, then this project makes sense. If you took someone off an actual useful game mechanics fix to do this then, welp, LMAO.

[Methais]

I'm not really mad at it from a coding standpoint because different GMs talents lie in different areas, and if someone was only ever going to make fluff, then this project makes sense. If you took someone off an actual useful game mechanics fix to do this then, welp, LMAO.

It's time that could have been spent coding something that was actually good and useful.

Simu loves to design systems that are really close to being awesome, and then fuck it all up at the end making it near useless. I don't blame the actual coder for that. Chances are they probably wanted to do more with whatever their project is and got shut down/scaled back by QC because just about everything in existence is OP to them.

[Taernath]

Eh, hard to say. Without knowing who did what exactly, I don't put it past someone being so out of touch that they think half-charged silver wands are an appropriate award.

[audioserf]

I definitely feel Methais' frustration with where dev time gets spent, even if it wasn't done by a person who could necessarily address his specific concerns. A lot of stuff to do with mages after the 'improvements' is enormously stupid. The cores that never drop, the wild lore requirements for very underwhelming buffs (oh dang snac he can enchant a BASIC FLARING weapon!!!! can you make my drake falchion 2x?!). They did mages like they did sorcs in GS3 Growing Pains. Swung the pendulum way too far. It's like airport security pre and post 9/11. You could bring a machete one day and the next day you can't bring tooth paste. I'm glad I got rid of my mage before all of this mess happened.

[Methais]

I can't believe you still haven't found that core even after all this time. How many kills are you at?

Actual kill count I have no idea, because I usually forget to put on my elemental shard to track it, but my shard is currently at...

Within this elementally infused shard you detect the equivalent of 33088 usable elemental souls
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

But a lot of that number is from before iridescent cores supposedly came out. But 90% of the time I forget to put it on anyway, since you can't wear it simultaneously with the soulstone you use to enter the Confluence, so I have no idea what the real number should be, but probably way higher.

As for plinites though, which is where the cores come from, I'd say I've gone through at least a couple thousand of them since iridescents. I usually open 100-200 a day, sometimes more sometimes less, so roughly that * however many days since iridescents came out.

Every time I post on the officials asking if any at all have been found yet, it gets completely ignored.

Iridescent glowing cores flat out do not exist in this game. Maybe they're supposed to, but aside from the few that went out at the in game event that introduced them, they don't. Those don't count anyway since they weren't an actual loot drop, and I don't believe any have been found by anybody yet.

My guess is assuming this isn't all just a bunch of trolling from Simu, then something is bugged with the "iridescent" part, as Viduus added that to the description a couple days after they came out IIRC, so that you'd be able to tell them apart from regular faintly glowing cores.

I don't even care about actually find them anymore so much as trying to wrap my mind around what they were thinking when they gave them these non-existent drop rates, literally to the point of making the whole system useless and a waste of time for everyone.

[audioserf]

I don't even care about actually find them anymore so much as trying to wrap my mind around what they were thinking when they gave them these non-existent drop rates, literally to the point of making the whole system useless and a waste of time for everyone.

I think the problem is, sadly, they didn't intentionally give them a non-existent drop rate, and it's actually a bug that nobody cares enough to fix. Like you said, Viduus slightly altering the description probably threw something out of whack to where they aren't being generated.

[Methais]

I think the problem is, sadly, they didn't intentionally give them a non-existent drop rate, and it's actually a bug that nobody cares enough to fix. Like you said, Viduus slightly altering the description probably threw something out of whack to where they aren't being generated.

Or if they are being generated, they still show up as "a faintly glowing core" instead of "an iridescent glowing core" or whatever their "iridescent" description looks like, and are getting sold, because the only other option is to ANALYZE every single one to see I it shows as an alchemy item, which I'm honestly not even sure if that would work, and faintly glowing cores have no other use and are by far the most common core you'll find, the other cores are probably considered at least "uncommon" drops if not rarer.

By comparison, I've found lots of greater essences in this same time frame and those are considered rare drops.

Something isn't right with iridescents, the problem is most likely like you said...no one gives a fuck enough to look into or fix it or confirm that everything is "working as intended."

[Neveragain]

There should be one GM with the title of “Bug Fixer” whose only job is to respond to people’s mech complaints, investigate them, and either fix the Bug or put the WAI stamp on it. I think 75% of player angst will disappear overnight.

No amount of beer and pizza money could sway a person to take the "bug fixer" position. Debugging causes cancer and killed baby Jesus.

[drauz]

Actual kill count I have no idea, because I usually forget to put on my elemental shard to track it, but my shard is currently at...

Within this elementally infused shard you detect the equivalent of 33088 usable elemental souls
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

But a lot of that number is from before iridescent cores supposedly came out. But 90% of the time I forget to put it on anyway, since you can't wear it simultaneously with the soulstone you use to enter the Confluence, so I have no idea what the real number should be, but probably way higher.

As for plinites though, which is where the cores come from, I'd say I've gone through at least a couple thousand of them since iridescents. I usually open 100-200 a day, sometimes more sometimes less, so roughly that * however many days since iridescents came out.

Every time I post on the officials asking if any at all have been found yet, it gets completely ignored.

Iridescent glowing cores flat out do not exist in this game. Maybe they're supposed to, but aside from the few that went out at the in game event that introduced them, they don't. Those don't count anyway since they weren't an actual loot drop, and I don't believe any have been found by anybody yet.

My guess is assuming this isn't all just a bunch of trolling from Simu, then something is bugged with the "iridescent" part, as Viduus added that to the description a couple days after they came out IIRC, so that you'd be able to tell them apart from regular faintly glowing cores.

I don't even care about actually find them anymore so much as trying to wrap my mind around what they were thinking when they gave them these non-existent drop rates, literally to the point of making the whole system useless and a waste of time for everyone.

I think part of the problem is that mage recharging isn't a hugely sought after service to begin with, I have one of the rodyn potions but I don't know how much to charge for the service. I think it has like 5 uses maybe.

[Astray]

I'm curious to see if this went through any focus testing or if this was like "Yeah they'll love this" and it got implemented quicker than they thought it would.

Fuck this trash.

[drauz]

I'm curious to see if this went through any focus testing or if this was like "Yeah they'll love this" and it got implemented quicker than they thought it would.

Fuck this trash.

https://i.imgur.com/V0l2ZSW.gif?noredirect

[Gelston]

I like the idea. I don't like the way they implemented it. For shit as weak as a wand those items should be a lot more common. I'm thinking it would be a great thing for low level characters that still depend on wands, but I have found only one thing on my low level characters and it was an Arkati statue.

I don't know if something is borked and certain things aren't being found at the frequency intended or what.

[Taernath]

I like the idea. I don't like the way they implemented it. For shit as weak as a wand those items should be a lot more common. I'm thinking it would be a great thing for low level characters that still depend on wands, but I have found only one thing on my low level characters and it was an Arkati statue.

I don't know if something is borked and certain things aren't being found at the frequency intended or what.

They could always just up the drop rate on wands rather than design an entirely new system.

[Gelston]

They could always just up the drop rate on wands rather than design an entirely new system.

I'd see this as a way to supplement it without actually having wands fall all over the fucking place.

[Leafiara]

I like the idea. I don't like the way they implemented it. For shit as weak as a wand those items should be a lot more common. I'm thinking it would be a great thing for low level characters that still depend on wands, but I have found only one thing on my low level characters and it was an Arkati statue.

I don't know if something is borked and certain things aren't being found at the frequency intended or what.Yeah, I'm with ya.

I'm really hoping hunting pressure doesn't affect it, which would be a problem for capped hunting, but I bet it does.
And on the flip side I'm also really hoping that it isn't limited by whatever the mechanic is that makes sure kobolds and such never drop diamonds, but I bet that affects it too. Maybe I'll test that some time this week and take one of my lower level abandoned characters to a decently swarmy place like the Wehntoph...

[Methais]

They could always just up the drop rate on wands rather than design an entirely new system.

The drop rate on wands is already better than the drop rate on collectibles that reward an inferior version of the same wand than a critter found one.

Simu logic.

[Methais]

I'm curious to see if this went through any focus testing or if this was like "Yeah they'll love this" and it got implemented quicker than they thought it would.

Fuck this trash.

That too, the whole system is garbage and gets wrecked by scroll infusion in every possible way other than you can’t wear scrolls.

[audioserf]

Scroll infusion stomps out mage recharging similar to how Ensorcelling is more user friendly/more profitable for less work than enchanting. Sorcerors basically get a free extra couple million silvers a week just for hunting which they would already be doing.

edit: and they can't fail and lock an item until a merchant unlocks it LMAO why did mages get hosed so hard. Just remove the base 3% fail rate! Just take it out! Don't tie it to an incredibly infrequent GM merchant service!

[Astray]

"What's the most bland, un-intuitive way to introduce mediocre items and call it an achievement? I mean we have a treasure system that's pretty busted already but we should break it down even further until we've got literal heaps of shit burying the *NEW* treasure stuff. This should really be a second job and not a fun implemented thing for shits and giggles."

-Some massive gaping anus at Simu.

[Methais]

"What's the most bland, un-intuitive way to introduce mediocre items and call it an achievement? I mean we have a treasure system that's pretty busted already but we should break it down even further until we've got literal heaps of shit burying the *NEW* treasure stuff. This should really be a second job and not a fun implemented thing for shits and giggles."

-Some massive gaping anus at Simu.

>onduty

Staff on duty:

GameMaster Goatse

[mgoddess]

>onduty

Staff on duty:

GameMaster Goatse

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Methais again.

[Winter]

edit: and they can't fail and lock an item until a merchant unlocks it LMAO

You can use a sarmoc potion on a locked item to reset/unlock it and start again (takes about a day to reset). I think the point of locking is that you can go a merchant who can basically magic away the catastrophic failure and let you have another go at the final cast without having a destroyed item which you can't use a sarmoc potion on or magic back into being.

edit- but I have to say I was with you when I got a locked item, I thought well I might as well throw this away since I very rarely visit merchants but then I found out about sarmoc potions and thought oh well it's not that bad.

[Askip]

I have not used a sarmoc in a looong time. does the pour just remove the last temper or take it all the way back to step one?

I vaguely remember losing all progress but that could just be fried neurons.

:D

[Methais]

I have not used a sarmoc in a looong time. does the pour just remove the last temper or take it all the way back to step one?

I vaguely remember losing all progress but that could just be fried neurons.

:D

Pretty sure you go back to step 1.

[Askip]

That is what I thought. So locking 7x near the end of the project is a three month redo or hope for a spot with a gald merch, nice choice.

I guess it beats destruction but damn.

:D

[Hymore246]

Isn't this whole thing just par for the course for Simu? Most of the problems are just repeats of what they get wrong. Lets consult the checklist:


Gemstone IV Announcement and Teaser Checklist

[ ] New feature is behind a paywall
[ ] Added a new in-game currency
[x] New feature is a good idea but is ruined by nerfs or GM apathy
[ ] System/Mechanic overhaul ends up being a nerf
[x] Lack of information on new feature/item
[x] Expects the player base to figure out how the new feature works with no help
[ ] Event/Feature/Item ends up being a bait and switch
[x] New/changed system requires a massive time investment before getting anything worthwhile (carrot on a stick)
[ ] False advertising
[ ] Minor buff makes the player base paranoid
[ ] New item requires multiple tiers on unlocking
[ ] Last unlock tier on new item is an "auction level" unlock
[ ] Highly sought after item can only be gotten from a "slot machine" game at a paid event
[ ] Blatant lying by a GM
[ ] New cash shop merchandise


If Simu could just fix bugs or do general improvements once in a while they wouldn't have such bad blood with most of the player base. Hell, listening to everyone would be a start.

[Leafiara]

>collect set 29
Your progress on set #29 (Spirits of Life) is as follows:
[71] an ornate Aeia statuette (1/1)
[76] an ornate Jaston statuette (1/1)
[77] an ornate Kuon statuette (1/1)
[74] an ornate Meyno statuette (1/1)
[80] an ornate Niima statuette (1/1)
>redeem 29
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Spirits of Life set for you."
You have been awarded 1 Luck Booster! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #4. Redeem an Uncommon Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #25. Redeem an Uncommon Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #26. Redeem a Rare Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Stry]

So you essentially received 1 Luck Booster, and 3x Mind Clearers for that?

Hrm...

[gilchristr]

I was guessing that the reward for that redeem was going to be a 5x or better claid, or maybe an undead bane certificate. So, really dissappointed.

[Methais]

>collect set 29
Your progress on set #29 (Spirits of Life) is as follows:
[71] an ornate Aeia statuette (1/1)
[76] an ornate Jaston statuette (1/1)
[77] an ornate Kuon statuette (1/1)
[74] an ornate Meyno statuette (1/1)
[80] an ornate Niima statuette (1/1)
>redeem 29
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Leafiara. I shall redeem the Spirits of Life set for you."
You have been awarded 1 Luck Booster! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #4. Redeem an Uncommon Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #25. Redeem an Uncommon Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #26. Redeem a Rare Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

This is some of the weakest shit Simu has done in a while.

Rare/ultra rewards will be weak as fuck too, watch.

[Gelston]

This is some of the weakest shit Simu has done in a while.

Rare/ultra rewards will be weak as fuck too, watch.

It'll be an accelerated CMan/Armor unlearning potion

[Gelston]

>redeem 27
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Ivstinianvs. I shall redeem the Pantheon of Neutrality set for you."
You have been awarded 1 Luck Booster! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #7. Redeem a Rare Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #26. Redeem a Rare Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Methais]

>redeem 27
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Ivstinianvs. I shall redeem the Pantheon of Neutrality set for you."
You have been awarded 1 Luck Booster! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #7. Redeem a Rare Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #26. Redeem a Rare Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

THIS IS OP!!!

[Gelston]

Watch out Elanthia, I got a luck boost.

[Taernath]

HE'S .000000000000000000000000000012% CLOSER TO CAP WITH THOSE MIND CLEARERS!!!

[Methais]

I don’t even know what luck boosts do. 3% chance to grant an extra +1 on your roll to dodge something 1x per 6 months?

[zoraster]

I don’t even know what luck boosts do. 3% chance to grant an extra +1 on your roll to dodge something 1x per 6 months?

Luck boosts allow you to roll again if you end up with a 10 or less on a combat d100 roll for 15 minutes, taking the higher number.

[Methais]

Luck boosts allow you to roll again if you end up with a 10 or less on a combat d100 roll for 15 minutes, taking the higher number.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8c/93/a0/8c93a077654ec86228fd805da7b273c0--funny-road-signs-funny-humor.jpg

[Fortybox]

This is some of the weakest shit Simu has done in a while.

Rare/ultra rewards will be weak as fuck too, watch.

Wyrom really needs to go.

[Stanley Burrell]

Stuff is utter bullcrap when you're under-hunting btw. You'll find like one collectible per 12803498393 critters killed.

Bye.

[Aluvius]

Even hunting at level it seems pretty rare. I've found 4 items and I steadily hunt in areas where I get a good amount of boxes.

[Methais]

Has Simu announced the rare rewards yet?

[Fortybox]

Has Simu announced the rare rewards yet?

You get a smooth stone plus a luck boost.

[Gelston]

Mine was a "rare" set, according to the achievement.

[Methais]

This whole thing has to be one gigantic troll by Simu. I literally can't think of any other reason why a system with rewards that are this big of a joke would be anything else.

[SHAFT]

Wyrom really needs to go.

That seems a bit strong.

Things could be worse.

[Methais]

That seems a bit strong.

Things could be worse.

He meant to the bathroom. Because nobody deserves to poopy their pants.

[sellstuff1]

The slender blue wand reward can be duplicated. Still, it's an insult. It took me 2 months of boxes across 3 accounts to complete that set. A blue wand as a reward wasn't even worth the time spent dropping off collectibles with foreach.

[audioserf]

I will never stop laughing at how garbage the rewards to this thing is.

[Stumplicker]

I will never stop laughing at how garbage the rewards to this thing is.

The reward is that you are still subscribed two months later. It's not a reward for you; it's a reward for the company. Whether or not you liked your end of the reward, you were given a task, however pointless, and convinced that it was both "free" and done for your enjoyment. It included a sense of progression as you finished collectible after collectible hoping that maybe the next one would give you some sort of cumulative "You finished 15 collectibles! Here's a 4x RPA!" boost. Meanwhile you didn't get bored and quit. Welcome to the bar filling model. When players become immune to the gratification of the base bar filling (experience and levels, capping), more bars are added to fill.

[Astray]

I will never stop laughing at how garbage the rewards to this thing is.
Imagine that this is them actually trying. Holy shit, right?

[Avaia]

Stuff like this would make more sense if they would create some sort of Auction House.

[Astray]

Stuff like this would make more sense if they would create some sort of Auction House.

That's a QOL improvement so... fat chance it'll ever happen.

[Methais]

The reward is that you are still subscribed two months later. It's not a reward for you; it's a reward for the company. Whether or not you liked your end of the reward, you were given a task, however pointless, and convinced that it was both "free" and done for your enjoyment. It included a sense of progression as you finished collectible after collectible hoping that maybe the next one would give you some sort of cumulative "You finished 15 collectibles! Here's a 4x RPA!" boost. Meanwhile you didn't get bored and quit. Welcome to the bar filling model. When players become immune to the gratification of the base bar filling (experience and levels, capping), more bars are added to fill.

This might be true if even 1 person was about to quit and then collectibles came out and they were like "Oh fuck hold the phone, I gotta check this out first!!!"

But that number is zero.

Wasn't Simu supposed to make some announcement about what the "good" rewards were going to be?

[Stumplicker]

This might be true if even 1 person was about to quit and then collectibles came out and they were like "Oh fuck hold the phone, I gotta check this out first!!!"

But that number is zero.


You're right. Simutronics has no attrition, nor has it ever had any. Added goals to fill additional bars like continually upgrading one's gear through a smithy, finishing and tricking out one's doll in a cash grab mansion, filling your daily allotment of ghost bucks, or improving the functionality of your trivia fanny pack have never been added to the game in order to extend the functional playtime before boredom.

Bars to fill are added to extend playtime and a player's investment in the game. That's how this gaming model works. This is a shitty bar with shitty rewards, but yes, that is exactly why it was added: To extend the playtime and interest of anyone who decided to participate in it.

You weren't asked to throw simucoins at it, so the rewards are bound to be less than impressive. Impressive bar filling rewards come from rapidfiring simucoins into the game so your script can answer a trivia question to improve your bonus by 0.01%.

[Methais]

You're right. Simutronics has no attrition, nor has it ever had any. Added goals to fill additional bars like continually upgrading one's gear through a smithy, finishing and tricking out one's doll in a cash grab mansion, filling your daily allotment of ghost bucks, or improving the functionality of your trivia fanny pack have never been added to the game in order to extend the functional playtime before boredom.

Bars to fill are added to extend playtime and a player's investment in the game. That's how this gaming model works. This is a shitty bar with shitty rewards, but yes, that is exactly why it was added: To extend the playtime and interest of anyone who decided to participate in it.

You weren't asked to throw simucoins at it, so the rewards are bound to be less than impressive. Impressive bar filling rewards come from rapidfiring simucoins into the game so your script can answer a trivia question to improve your bonus by 0.01%.

I seriously doubt that after maybe the first week at best, anybody at all went out of their way to do anything involving collectibles other than turning in the ones that they happened to find, assuming they didn't just let ;sloot sell it because they gave zero fucks about being rewarded with a smooth stone.

If Simu leaves this as is, it'll probably go down as the biggest joke of a system in GS history, which is really saying something.

[Stumplicker]

I seriously doubt that after maybe the first week at best, anybody at all went out of their way to do anything involving collectibles other than turning in the ones that they happened to find, assuming they didn't just let ;sloot sell it because they gave zero fucks about being rewarded with a smooth stone.

If Simu leaves this as is, it'll probably go down as the biggest joke of a system in GS history, which is really saying something.

It's definitely an underwhelming system that nobody was asking for. That's for sure. And in a game where there are plenty of things that people HAVE asked for that have been ignored for years, that's extra shitty.

If you took the development time out of collectibles and Reim Defense and put them into stuff people actually wanted, I bet nobody would be missing spells anymore.

[mgoddess]

If you took the development time out of collectibles and Reim Defense and put them into stuff people actually wanted, I bet nobody would be missing spells anymore.

Playing Devil's Advocate....

GM's probably had energy & creativity to make the collectibles & Reim Defense systems, compared to the energy required for implementing the spells & other systems that people actually want.

Don't get me wrong, I think the implementation of the collectibles was kind of a waste of time, but if that's what the GM(s) that coded it wanted to do, then that's what we get.

[Aluvius]

I like the system, but for as rare as the drops are the rewards are terrible.

[beldannon5]

You know it's not a good system if i am not doing it lol

[sellstuff1]

You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well. I shall redeem the Gold Coins set for you."
The attendant hands you a dull gold coin as your reward.

[Stanley Burrell]

You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well. I shall redeem the Gold Coins set for you."
The attendant hands you a dull gold coin as your reward.

omg

With that kind of money, you could buy the Supreme Court. Nicely done, sellstuff1 :thumbup:

[Methais]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong but didn't Simu say when this trash came out that they were going to announce what the rare/ultra rare rewards were gonna be "soon?"

[Stumplicker]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong but didn't Simu say when this trash came out that they were going to announce what the rare/ultra rare rewards were gonna be "soon?"

In their defense, "soon" usually means less than a decade. It was what, 7 years for ranged weapons, 6 and counting for monk spells, only 9 and counting I think for savants (They were 2009, right?)

Edit to add: Smelt your weapons down for slabs, 2019!!

[Gelston]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong but didn't Simu say when this trash came out that they were going to announce what the rare/ultra rare rewards were gonna be "soon?"

I already got a rare award. It is the same shit as anything else.

[time4fun]

Are there any nice rewards?

On a more philosophical note, this is a game that revolves around hunting. They pretty clearly rolled this out to add an extra dimension to hunting that could benefit everyone (and not just one profession, as a spell release would have done). That wasn't a bad judgement call.

Plus, this isn't a combat system. It's a fluff system with one combat "integration". I doubt this took a ton of a combat Dev GMs time (though that's just a guess).

It's okay to say that the implementation of the system isn't what you would have preferred, but it wasn't a bad call to roll out a system that gives more dimension to combat that anyone can benefit from.

[Gelston]

Are there any nice rewards?

On a more philosophical note, this is a game that revolves around hunting. They pretty clearly rolled this out to add an extra dimension to hunting that could benefit everyone (and not just one profession, as a spell release would have done). That wasn't a bad judgement call.

Plus, this isn't a combat system. It's a fluff system with one combat "integration". I doubt this took a ton of a combat Dev GMs time (though that's just a guess).

It's okay to say that the implementation of the system isn't what you would have preferred, but it wasn't a bad call to roll out a system that gives more dimension to combat that anyone can benefit from.

No. There aren't any nice rewards. Unless you consider 10k a nice reward or an instant mind clearerer, which you get for the associated achievement, worth the time. I turned in a rare set and got 2 instant mind clearers (there were two associated achievements) and 10k.

[Methais]

Are there any nice rewards?

No.


On a more philosophical note, this is a game that revolves around hunting. They pretty clearly rolled this out to add an extra dimension to hunting that could benefit everyone (and not just one profession, as a spell release would have done). That wasn't a bad judgement call.

Plus, this isn't a combat system. It's a fluff system with one combat "integration". I doubt this took a ton of a combat Dev GMs time (though that's just a guess).

It's okay to say that the implementation of the system isn't what you would have preferred, but it wasn't a bad call to roll out a system that gives more dimension to combat that anyone can benefit from.

How does anyone benefit from a system with the most garbage rewards in the history of garbage, including both Lane Meyer and Akeem?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6srI0EVwTUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx_wAYHiiD8

[Taernath]

Simu's glacial pace has trained some of us to think any dev is good dev.

It really isn't.

[Gelston]

Simu's glacial pace has trained some of us to think any dev is good dev.

It really isn't.

I think it is a good idea, but either the rewards should be way better or the drop rates should be more common.

[Taernath]

I think it is a good idea, but either the rewards should be way better or the drop rates should be more common.

It's an interesting concept but like virtually everything else it winds up being useless because of the implementation.

[Methais]

I think it is a good idea, but either the rewards should be way better or the drop rates should be more common.

It would still be trash with the current rewards unless it was like a 100% drop rate. Even then, debatable at best.

[Stanley Burrell]

Are there any nice rewards?

On a more philosophical note, this is a game that revolves around hunting. They pretty clearly rolled this out to add an extra dimension to hunting that could benefit everyone (and not just one profession, as a spell release would have done). That wasn't a bad judgement call.

Plus, this isn't a combat system. It's a fluff system with one combat "integration". I doubt this took a ton of a combat Dev GMs time (though that's just a guess).

It's okay to say that the implementation of the system isn't what you would have preferred, but it wasn't a bad call to roll out a system that gives more dimension to combat that anyone can benefit from.

Nah man, I disagree. It is fluff, maybe add something more fluffy like a pre/post-name title available if you've collected enough fluffy stuff. I just woke up, sorry.

E.g. You see Stanley Burrell the Friendly Neighborhood Fluffer.

[sellstuff1]

Hey I got my first worthwhile reward - a reim entry orb for completing the Reim set.

[Kembal]

Huh, this turned out better than I expected:

>collect set 27
Your progress on set #27 (Pantheon of Neutrality) is as follows:
[68] an ornate Gosaena statuette (1/1)
[69] an ornate Zelia statuette (1/1)
>redeem 27
You make your request to the attendant, who nods to you, and says, "Very well, Kembal. I shall redeem the Pantheon of Neutrality set for you."
You have been awarded 1 Luck Booster! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #7. Redeem a Rare Set!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Collectibles Achievement Obtained: #26. Redeem a Rare Collectible!]
1 Instant Mind Clearer! You may use the BOOST command to access this reward!

[Gelston]

Yeah, the mindclearers are cool, but you only get one per achievement. If you got them for every set it'd be better.

[Stanley Burrell]

^