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Wezas
02-08-2005, 10:42 AM
(I was suprised there wasn't already a thread)

The link to a summary from the bias Associated Press http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_BUDGET?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME

The skinny (Factual - but with a Wezas slant):

$2.57 trillion dollar budget

154 government programs either eliminated or drastically reduced - including Amtrack passenger train subsidies and grants to communities for hiring police officers.

Social Security and Medicare - would be reduced by 0.7 percent next year.

The $81 billion Bush requested for Iraq and Afganastan was not included in this
$2.57 trillion (so it'll be more like $2.65 trillion)

Bush wants to make his first term tax cuts permanent at a 10-year cost of $1.1 trillion.

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I realize that it's most likely not going to get through congress in it's current fucked up state. Is he dreaming? Is he on this planet?

Are people saying "Look, he's going to keep the tax cuts he gave us last time!" and ignoring the fact that he's doing away (or crippling) 154 programs including money for communities to hire police officers?

Major cuts also to programs for farmers and low-income children.

A few children left behind, I guess.

Back
02-08-2005, 11:02 AM
And somehow... somehow I think it will get passed. Majority rule in congress is Republican after all.

StrayRogue
02-08-2005, 11:04 AM
He did this the first time round. Cut major funding to community care, libraries, etc. I'm not suprised. Keeping your people dumb is an easy way to stay in control, afterall.

xtc
02-08-2005, 11:15 AM
What do expect from a man who couldn't make money in the oil business and traded Sammy Sousa.

A guess that balanced budget ammendment in 2003 didn't pass. Remember when Republicans were concerned with balanced budgets and Democrats liked to spend money.

It seems to me that Bush is very much a spend, spend, spend liberal.

Keller
02-08-2005, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by xtc
What do expect from a man who couldn't make money in the oil business and traded Sammy Sousa.

A guess that balanced budget ammendment in 2003 didn't pass. Remember when Republicans were concerned with balanced budgets and Democrats liked to spend money.

It seems to me that Bush is very much a spend, spend, spend liberal.

A lot of that spending in mandatory, and his major discretionary spending is the war. I used to believe he was a spend, spend, spend liberal too -- he's not.

Latrinsorm
02-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by xtc
What do expect from a man who couldn't make money in the oil business and traded Sammy Sousa.You are such a Canadian it's not funny.
In the most tightfisted budget of his presidencySounds good to me. Give us more money, have the government spend less.
Originally posted by Wezas
Social Security and Medicare - would be reduced by 0.7 percent next year.Uh, a little too much slant, Wezas.
And overall non-security domestic spending - excluding such automatic benefit programs like Social Security and Medicare - would be reduced by 0.7 percent next year.

xtc
02-08-2005, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
[quote]Originally posted by xtc
What do expect from a man who couldn't make money in the oil business and traded Sammy Sousa.You are such a Canadian it's not funny.[quote]

I am also an American and not alone in my thinking.

Parkbandit
02-08-2005, 02:36 PM
Show me a Presidental Budget PROPOSAL that didn't get hacked, slashed and negotiated around Congress in the past 20 years please.

Thanks.

Wezas
02-08-2005, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Originally posted by Wezas[/i]
Social Security and Medicare - would be reduced by 0.7 percent next year.Uh, a little too much slant, Wezas.
And overall non-security domestic spending - excluding such automatic benefit programs like Social Security and Medicare - would be reduced by 0.7 percent next year. [/quote]

Ah, misread that.

But this is straight from AP:


Likewise, the administration's top domestic priority, overhauling Social Security by creating private investment accounts, was kept out of the budget even though the administration has already estimated that transition costs for the first decade will total $754 billion.

Wezas
02-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Parkbandit
Show me a Presidental Budget PROPOSAL that didn't get hacked, slashed and negotiated around Congress in the past 20 years please.

Thanks.

Negotiated is one thing. Being plain retarded is another.

StrayRogue
02-08-2005, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Wezas

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Show me a Presidental Budget PROPOSAL that didn't get hacked, slashed and negotiated around Congress in the past 20 years please.

Thanks.

Negotiated is one thing. Being plain retarded is another.

Just because it happens alot, doesn't mean the criticism wasn't right then or now. Fobbing it off as "liberal whining" doesn't make it any better or any less stupid.

Latrinsorm
02-08-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by xtc
I am also an American and not alone in my thinking. The name is SOSA. That was my point.

Keller
02-08-2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by xtc
I am also an American and not alone in my thinking. The name is SOSA. That was my point.

And I can't separate "America" from "Sousa" in my mind.

Unless you meant that many Canadians cannot properly spell the last name of American sports stars, then there is only one inference available.

xtc
02-08-2005, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by xtc
I am also an American and not alone in my thinking. The name is SOSA. That was my point.

Ah point taken. Well what can I say I know more Sousas than Sosas.

Hulkein
02-08-2005, 06:06 PM
OMGOMGOMG SOME STUFF IS LOSING FUNDING!!111

Is this the first time you've seen stuff is being cut?

Or maybe it was a president with a (D) next to his name, so you didn't bitch.

:shrug:

[Edited on 2-8-2005 by Hulkein]

02-08-2005, 08:49 PM
I dont think there is a way to win. People harp about the spending of the government, when stuff gets cut people bitch about that.

What needs to be done to make you happy?

Tsa`ah
02-09-2005, 12:48 AM
It wasn't broke before he took office, excluding social security.

Things received funding, we had a surplus, and as always ... there was fat to trim.

What happens? Pass some education reform that is regressive in nature, cut taxes, rebate taxes, go to war ... go bankrupt.

No wonder the dumb son of a bitch was a failure in every sense of the word prior to becoming a politician.

Warriorbird
02-09-2005, 02:48 AM
Actually, PB... most budget proposals go up.