New Scroll System - Self Knowledge

[Fallen]

A new type of scroll will be making it's way into the game starting tonight. These new scrolls will work a bit differently than traditional scrolls. When a spell is invoked from them, they will grant the user temporary knowledge of the spell. This self knowledge window lasts a base of 5 minutes for buffs, and 10 minutes for offensive spells. Any spells cast off these spells can be cast infinitely in those windows, but buffs will fade when the window closes - meaning they will only last a base of 5 minutes. This base window can be increased to around a max of 60 minutes for buffs, and 2 hours for offensive spells through scroll infusion. These spells will be treated as native cast for spell burst and rift dispel. These scrolls should start appearing in the treasure system over the next few days.

The intent of this enhancement is to add some diversity in the scroll system. It's our intent that players will be able to use these to mix in some options into their hunting regimes - example having ewave an entire hunt, in addition we anticipate being able to allow more powerful options on these versions of scrolls than are traditionally allowed on their more permanent cousins.

Scrolls can be identified over traditional scrolls by use of the READ verb- and seeing vibrant ink

It takes you a moment to focus on the glittering palimpsest.
On the glittering palimpsest you see
(214) Bind in vibrant ink
(115) Fasthr's Reward in vibrant ink
(212) Interference in vibrant ink
(105) Poison Resistance in vibrant ink
(114) UnPoison in vibrant ink
(1712) Spirit Guard in vibrant ink

Knowledge of spells will be shown in spell active
spell active
You currently have the following active spells:
Knowledge - Bind ................... 0:09:58
Knowledge - Spirit Guard ........... 0:04:17

-Buffs from these scrolls are self cast only
-They will work with scroll infusion, but scroll infusion will only boost the Self Knowledge window duration, spells will still only get one Invoke
-These SK scrolls won't replace traditional scrolls, they'll supplement the original type.
-You won't be able to use them to make imbeds
-You won't get dispelled by rift mechanics / pop due to spell burst while the buffs last
-These spells will benefit from the generic CS/spell rank system released last year

Viduus



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Pretty damn cool.

[Fallen]

Oops, biffed the title. My bad.

[Ososis]

-You won't get dispelled by rift mechanics / pop due to spell burst while the buffs last

boss

[drauz]

Buffs will be underwhelming, but the offensive spells will be awesome.

And sorcerers just got even better at making money.

[Fortybox]

Hah - super buff to sorcerers. Meanwhile, monks still suck.

[Alastir]

Using scrolls in combat is a PITA though. Sad that the buffs dispel when the SK ends.

[drauz]

Sabotage - Today at 12:02 AM
@Viduus All the spells get 1 invoke w/ new style scrolls?
@Viduus also any chance Charge Item could play some role in upping the duration?
Viduus - Today at 12:31 AM
New scrolls are one invoke per spell listing, negative on the charge item. I'm hoping to give magic items some love in the future.

[gilchristr]

"Using scrolls in combat is a PITA though"

???

[loxe]

Are you sure this wasn't posted on April fool's day? Seems way too nice.

[Methais]

Oops, biffed the title. My bad.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/7/7b/Griff-tannen-back-to-the-future-ii.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111124103720


Using scrolls in combat is a PITA though. Sad that the buffs dispel when the SK ends.

Use a macro. Problem solved.

[Jhynnifer]

Are you sure this wasn't posted on April fool's day? Seems way too nice.

Nope, posted 4/3. I checked. =)

[audioserf]

Bummer about buffs ending after 5 minutes. I guess this gives me a reason to keep scrolls with EWave now.

[JNewhall]

Bummer about buffs ending after 5 minutes. I guess this gives me a reason to keep scrolls with EWave now.

But only if they have vibrant ink!

[Askip]

Buffs will be underwhelming, but the offensive spells will be awesome.

And sorcerers just got even better at making money.

Roger that on the buffs. I would rather have a dozen charges of 219 than one long cast.

:D

[Mogonis]

Wonder if they're a separate item or if regular scrolls have a roll to become one of these super scrolls.

[Viekn]

Buffs will be underwhelming, but the offensive spells will be awesome.


Roger that on the buffs.

Except for the part where Viduus added this part:

in addition we anticipate being able to allow more powerful options on these versions of scrolls than are traditionally allowed on their more permanent cousins.

I'm thinking along the lines of having access to Empathic Focus, Focus Barrier, etc. Even with just a base of 5 minutes on them, that's long enough for me to complete a hunt with.

[Methais]

I'm gonna lol if they add Rapid Fire to that list.

[MrMortimur]

Roger that on the buffs. I would rather have a dozen charges of 219 than one long cast.

:D

Except, being self-knowledge you would/could benefit from lores in addition to just the base spell. For quite a few spells the new scrolls will be far superior and luckily for the rest there is still the old scrolls, if you can find them.

[nocturnix]

Pretty damn cool.


If this is as good as its sound...(mind blown).

[loxe]

Wouldn’t this make warriors incredibly overpowered? Wasn’t spellburst created to be a balancer?

dude your avatar caused me to puke all over my keyboard.....

[Wrathbringer]

dude your avatar caused me to puke all over my keyboard.....

:bananahit:

[Ososis]

Wouldn’t this make warriors incredibly overpowered? Wasn’t spellburst created to be a balancer?

Spellburst can be overcome permanently with training, and if they have the skills to make these scrolls worth while I doubt spellburst was too much of a hassle anymore. I'm more excited about the Rift dispel mechanic.

[crb]

haven't found one yet, wonder if I'll be able to add charges to one.

[khorpulent]

Except for the part where Viduus added this part:


I'm thinking along the lines of having access to Empathic Focus, Focus Barrier, etc. Even with just a base of 5 minutes on them, that's long enough for me to complete a hunt with.

I doubt Focus Barrier is gonna be on any scroll, since the duration is infinite. You can't steal either focus spell (1213/1216) with 208 for that reason :(

[Allereli]

haven't found one yet, wonder if I'll be able to add charges to one.

no, infusion adds time, not charges

[Askip]

SK scrolls are buggy right now. The link does not show when reading, and I got 4 minutes for a cast of 103 that I normally get 1+ hour per invoke.

:D

[Methais]

SK scrolls are buggy right now. The link does not show when reading, and I got 4 minutes for a cast of 103 that I normally get 1+ hour per invoke.

:D

“Yes but since you can train in lores now to get the full bonus from it being SK, this offsets the duration difference and therefore is balanced.” -Simu, probably


My phone just autocorrected “Simu” to “Simucoins.”

I fear the end is near. Send help.

[Maerit]

There's a lot of problems with 517, and that new potion from Alchemy doesn't solve any of them. I was hoping this SK scroll system would allow players to use the charge from a scroll (even if it would immediately remove your SK of the spell) to imbed blank mage rechargeable items with more diverse set of spells from the scroll system. That would have the added side effect of making 517 more beneficial since you'd have more access to spells outside of the wizard circle to charge up.

It would, of course, tank the mage rechargeable market for such spells, but increase the value of blank rechargers.