New Computer

[Gelston]

Well, my current is 5 years old, so instead of upgrading it more, I'mma just get a new one. Right now I'm set on this one..

http://www.microcenter.com/product/475551/Codex_X3-012US_Desktop_Computer

I'll also be buying a 2TB HD with it.

Anyone see any other issues with it? Anyone know of one that is better in the same price range?

Its main purpose will be games and fucking around on the internet.

[Taernath]

You'd save a few hundred dollars buying everything separately and putting it together yourself. Apart from that it's fine.

[Gelston]

You'd save a few hundred dollars buying everything separately and putting it together yourself. Apart from that it's fine.

I'd save time by not doing that.

[Taernath]

I'd save time by not doing that.

An hour? Computers are like lego sets.

[Gelston]

An hour? Computers are like lego sets.

Honestly, you don't really save nearly as much money as you used to. I priced out just the CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, Windows Key, and the DVD drive and it is already pushing 1400. That isn't even including the case, motherboard, power supply, and all the other BS you'd need. It might actually cost more to build this on your own.

[Fallen]

What are you going to go with for cooling? Even if you're not looking to do anything fancy, adding a 15-30 dollar aftermarket fan will help with CPU overclocks. The 7700k runs fairly hot IMO.

[Taernath]

Honestly, you don't really save nearly as much money as you used to. I priced out just the CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, Windows Key, and the DVD drive and it is already pushing 1400. That isn't even including the case, motherboard, power supply, and all the other BS you'd need. It might actually cost more to build this on your own.

I don't know what reference you're using, but all that stuff is right around $1450.

[Gelston]

I don't know what reference you're using, but all that stuff is right around $1450.

Amazon.com, I just copy pasted the items and took the cheapest shown results. So basically, what you're saying, is based off your pricing, it is only $50 less to build my own. Yeah, fuck that mess.

[Taernath]

Amazon.com, I just copy pasted the items and took the cheapest shown results. So basically, what you're saying, is based off your pricing, it is only $50 less to build my own. Yeah, fuck that mess.

$1600 vs. $1450 is $50 less?

https://media.tenor.com/images/37744b5ce0dd4fc68463f4c5ef6e4e77/tenor.gif

[Fallen]

I'd suggest playing around with this site: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[Gelston]

$1600 vs. $1450 is $50 less?

https://media.tenor.com/images/37744b5ce0dd4fc68463f4c5ef6e4e77/tenor.gif

It is 1499.

[Taernath]

It is 1499.

With the rebate? There are rebates available for the stuff in my estimate, but I didn't include them.

If you're dead set on spending more than you have to, I guess I can't stop you.

[Gelston]

With the rebate? There are rebates available for the stuff in my estimate, but I didn't include them.

If you're dead set on spending more than you have to, I guess I can't stop you.

Dude, I'm dead set on not building a fucking computer. It isn't enjoyable to me, I don't like doing that shit. Stop trying to push that.

[Androidpk]

Build one yourself and use the money you save to get a 1080ti instead of the 1080, unless you don't plan on getting a 4k monitor anytime soon.

[Gelston]

Reading is a skill lost on this generation.

[subzero]

Build one yourself and use the money you save to get a 1080ti instead of the 1080, unless you don't plan on getting a 4k monitor anytime soon.

That's what I do. "Save" money and use it for upgrades.

[Androidpk]

Reading is a skill lost on this generation.

You asked for opinions and you got them.

Also, ASUS and some other company have some really sick 4k g-sync monitors coming out in early 2018.

[Gelston]

You asked for opinions and you got them.

Also, ASUS and some other company have some really sick 4k g-sync monitors coming out in early 2018.

And I said I didn't want to build anything.

[Wrathbringer]

you should build one and save money that you can later use on upgrades.

[Alashir]

Falcon northwest is amaaaazing

[Gelston]

I bet they are. They all start at over 2 grand, so... More than I want to spend.

[Stumplicker]

It's a nicely built rig Gelston. The one you linked. The only critique I'd have is...skip that flagship processor. Save yourself a couple hundred bucks. An i7-7700K is close to intel's flagship at the moment, and you always pay a premium for that, even though stepping just one step down will not lose you significant speed, nor will it affect the overall lifespan of your PC. You're gonna need to upgrade at exactly the same time in the future.

When I build a PC, graphic arts aside, I aim for "easily run everything at max graphics that's available today" and "will last me X years into the future with periodic upgrades". You've got the max everything for the most part, and you've got the longevity, but you've gone too far I think. Save now, wait a few years, and re-invest that couple hundred you save into upgrades later which will keep you at the top in a few years instead of being at the top now and slowly working your way mediocre. I'd much rather spend $150 now and $150 4 years from now on two good processors that let me run everything at max in the moment, because four years from now, $150 buys me way better than $300 today will.

[Gelston]

Isn't the i9 their flagship processor now?

[Stumplicker]

Isn't the i9 their flagship processor now?

Yeah it is. But you're talking $800-1000 at that point. The top of the line i7's are in the 300-400 range. That one in the rig you linked is about $300 at its lowest as far as I can see, where you'll easily be able to run every game today at max with that rig with a processor that costs $150 instead. My opinion is, save the $150 now, put it back into a new processor 4 years from now, and keep yourself at the top with equipment that isn't overkill for what you're trying to accomplish.

Edit to add: Heck, even the video card may be overkill, though I'd be more understanding of splurging on that. I have a rig that I use for games that runs most every one of today's PC games at top settings which only has a GTX 770 in it. That one's only just now showing noticable differences in AAA games between my graphics rig with GTX 980s.

Note: If you absolutely must be running all this stuff in 4k right now, by all means splurge. You'll want to. I'm assuming in all this though that you're gonna be okay like the rest of us in 1920x1080 until the next gen stuff is reasonably priced.

[Wrathbringer]

Have you considered building your own?

[Gelston]

Yeah it is. But you're talking $800-1000 at that point. The top of the line i7's are in the 300-400 range. That one in the rig you linked is about $300 at its lowest as far as I can see, where you'll easily be able to run every game today at max with that rig with a processor that costs $150 instead. My opinion is, save the $150 now, put it back into a new processor 4 years from now, and keep yourself at the top with equipment that isn't overkill for what you're trying to accomplish.

Edit to add: Heck, even the video card may be overkill, though I'd be more understanding of splurging on that. I have a rig that I use for games that runs most every one of today's PC games at top settings which only has a GTX 770 in it. That one's only just now showing noticable differences in AAA games between my graphics rig with GTX 980s.

Note: If you absolutely must be running all this stuff in 4k right now, by all means splurge. You'll want to. I'm assuming in all this though that you're gonna be okay like the rest of us in 1920x1080 until the next gen stuff is reasonably priced.

I'm planning on 4k and VR.

[Stumplicker]

I'm planning on 4k and VR.

In that case I'd still lower my price on the processor a bit to that $150 sweet spot range, and get a second graphics card with the money you save.

Not the end of the world though if you don't because Intel processors do pick up a little of the slack by virtue of having basic graphics processing on the chip. It isn't used in all cases, especially once your video card comes into the mix, but if you overrun something there it may help somewhat.

[Gelston]

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I went with this setup.

[Androidpk]

Build/pre-build aside it is a nice looking rig. Only concern I would have would be what type of cooling does it use for the CPU. As Fallen said those chips run hot, especially on stock heat sinks.

[Androidpk]

I really wouldn't bother with SLI setups. The games that support it are hit or miss and the microstutter issue is a pain in the ass.

[Gelston]

Build/pre-build aside it is a nice looking rig. Only concern I would have would be what type of cooling does it use for the CPU. As Fallen said those chips run hot, especially on stock heat sinks.

I've looked through the reviews and no one seems to be having a problem with cooling issues.

[Taernath]

Build/pre-build aside it is a nice looking rig. Only concern I would have would be what type of cooling does it use for the CPU. As Fallen said those chips run hot, especially on stock heat sinks.

It's prebuilt, guaranteed it's stock.


I really wouldn't bother with SLI setups. The games that support it are hit or miss and the microstutter issue is a pain in the ass.

Microstutter was a larger issue around 6+ years ago, it's been mostly resolved since then. The bigger issue is that SLI only makes sense at certain times, and right now isn't one of them due to a new gen of gpus that can generally handle everything thrown at them with a single card.

[Ltlprprincess]

Honestly, you don't really save nearly as much money as you used to. I priced out just the CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, Windows Key, and the DVD drive and it is already pushing 1400. That isn't even including the case, motherboard, power supply, and all the other BS you'd need. It might actually cost more to build this on your own.

I'd recommend checking out Bonanza.com for any software you may need, if you haven't already. I saw a Windows 10 Pro key selling for under $20. It's a legit key, too. They have enterprise licensing so they just sell the keys they get through that.