Star Trek Discovery

[Gelston]

Premiere is tonight! The premiere will be on CBS at 8:30pm EST, all episodes after are behind the CBS All Access paywall. Outside the US and Canada it is on Netflix.

I hope it doesn't suck!

[Tgo01]

Star Trek Discovery? This like Star Trek before the Star Trek series with the guy from Quantum Leap?

[Gelston]

Star Trek Discovery? This like Star Trek before the Star Trek series with the guy from Quantum Leap?

Sorta, but not really. It is only 10 years prior to Captain Kirk, so the Federation Exists and all that jazz.

[Tgo01]

Sorta, but not really. It is only 10 years prior to Captain Kirk, so the Federation Exists and all that jazz.

So it's between Captain Archer and Captain Kirk. Sounds interesting.

[Gelston]

So it's between Captain Archer and Captain Kirk. Sounds interesting.

Well, yes but like, way after Archer and not the much before Kirk.

[Gelston]

Oh, and it is prime timeline, rather than Kelvin timeline.

[Gelston]

FYI, you can get a free week trial (or 2 day trial if you select no commercials) of all access and watch the first two episode tonight.

[Taernath]

I don't like Star Trek enough to subscribe (even if temporarily) to a shitty service like All Access.

[Gelston]

I don't like Star Trek enough to subscribe (even if temporarily) to a shitty service like All Access.

FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU GET CRUSHED BY ELEPHANT SHIT

Anyways,

The first episode is over the air tonight at 8:30 EST.

[Gelston]

They should do a serious Warhammer 40k show on HBO or even Showtime with GoT like production values, maybe about the Horus Heresy, I would cut off one of my testicles to see that.

Go back to your AndroidPk account.

[Taernath]

FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU GET CRUSHED BY ELEPHANT SHIT


Just for that I'm going to check the allow seeding box for torrents of this show.

[Gelston]

Just for that I'm going to check the allow seeding box for torrents of this show.

Whatever allows it to spread. :)

[Taernath]

Go back to your AndroidPk account.

I thought that was Macguyver.

[Gelston]

I thought that was Macguyver.

I only said Pk because he would ask for some shit like Wh40k series. It probably actually is Macguyver.

[Latrinsorm]

Add two hours folks, the foosball's war on sci-fi isn't over yet.

[Androidpk]

Go back to your AndroidPk account.

I only have 1 account.

[Latrinsorm]

Gawwwdd it's so terribly LIBERAL. Cringe-worthy.Remember when ST:TNG broadcast a lesbian kiss? Where would you suppose that fell on the liberal-conservative scale in 1991?

[Tgo01]

Remember when ST:TNG broadcast a lesbian kiss?

Lesbian kiss?! How fucking disgusting! Which episode is this? So fucking outrageous. But seriously, which season? OMG! I want to make sure no one ever sees this sinful behavior so I need to know the title of said episode to warn my church.

[drauz]

Lesbian kiss?! How fucking disgusting! Which episode is this? So fucking outrageous. But seriously, which season? OMG! I want to make sure no one ever sees this sinful behavior so I need to know the title of said episode to warn my church.

https://i.imgur.com/LZuDQWR.gif

[Gelston]

It had pretty awesome production value. As far as the tone, I'd say it is about 3/4ths of the way between TNG and the movies. Not quite as gritty as the movies, but not as Utopian as the TOS or TNG or any of that. I'll be continuing my all access for it.

[Parkbandit]

It had pretty awesome production value. As far as the tone, I'd say it is about 3/4ths of the way between TNG and the movies. Not quite as gritty as the movies, but not as Utopian as the TOS or TNG or any of that. I'll be continuing my all access for it.

I'm a Star Trek nerd... I'm halfway through the episode right now. So far, it's meh. The acting seems clunky. Hopefully, because it's the pilot... shit might get better.

And why do the Klingons look SO fucking different in every reinvention of Star Trek? I get some subtle differences.. but sheesh, they don't even look like Klingons in this one.

[Gelston]

I'm a Star Trek nerd... I'm halfway through the episode right now. So far, it's meh. The acting seems clunky. Hopefully, because it's the pilot... shit might get better.

And why do the Klingons look SO fucking different in every reinvention of Star Trek? I get some subtle differences.. but sheesh, they don't even look like Klingons in this one.

I think they look more alien and menacing here. In TOS they were basically just humans with some weird facial hair, they changed them a bunch for TNG to make them look more brutish and alien, and now they've done it again.

[Tisket]

I didn't see the first half of the episode but, the reviews I've seen were mostly positive. I'm hopeful anyway and will be watching. The only thing that bugged me about the bit I did see was the reliance placed on camera angles. They heavily utilized the trick of angled camera views to increase the dramatic impact of scenes. I think they overdid that a bit.

[Gelston]

I didn't see the first half of the episode but, the reviews I've seen were mostly positive. I'm hopeful anyway and will be watching. The only thing that bugged me about the bit I did see was the reliance placed on camera angles. They heavily utilized the trick of angled camera views to increase the dramatic impact of scenes. I think they overdid that a bit.

I'm assuming you have All Access? The first two episodes are on there. The next episode coming on sunday we get to actually see the Discovery.

[Androidpk]

They heavily utilized the trick of angled camera views to increase the dramatic impact of scenes. I think they overdid that a bit.

I've only seen the trailer for the show but the overuse of that angled camera shit and light bloom turned me off.

[Tisket]

I'm assuming you have All Access? The first two episodes are on there. The next episode coming on sunday we get to actually see the Discovery.

I don't but I guess I'm going to have to get it now.

Damn you, CBS!

[Gelston]

I don't but I guess I'm going to have to get it now.

Damn you, CBS!

Yeah it is pretty gay, but they have a lot of other shows on there, and it allows me to watch my local CBS affiliate online. And btw, Episode 2 was quite a bit better than Episode 1. I liked 1 alright, but 2 is where the good parts are. They definitely intended for both to be seen together.

[Wrathbringer]

Yeah it is pretty gay, but they have a lot of other shows on there, and it allows me to watch my local CBS affiliate online. And btw, Episode 2 was quite a bit better than Episode 1. I liked 1 alright, but 2 is where the good parts are. They definitely intended for both to be seen together.

stop double posting. Reported.

[Gelston]

stop double posting. Reported.

Reported for false reports.

[Androidpk]

I will say this, the opening sequence is a million times better than Enterprise.

[Gelston]

I will say this, the opening sequence is a million times better than Enterprise.

An opener comprised of a yak vomiting would be better than Enterprise's. Then they went and redid it for Season 3 by adding stupid little rhythm beats to it.

[Parkbandit]

Jesus.. so they made their first openly gay officer on Discovery a walking stereotype?

[Tgo01]

Jesus.. so they made their first openly gay officer on Discovery a walking stereotype?

Does he talk with a lisp and wear fabulous clothes?

[Fortybox]

Does he talk with a lisp and wear fabulous clothes?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/XmiTYLQ5qXTqM/giphy.gif

[Tisket]

So I watched the three available episodes on CBS Access and I'm loving this outing of the Star Trek franchise. So worth six bucks a month. I only hope they do away with the Klingon subtitles. I don't like not being able to look away from the screen while the Klingon's are talking. And, for a combative species, they sure like to talk a lot. Hopefully the show's writers "teach" them English soon.


Jesus.. so they made their first openly gay officer on Discovery a walking stereotype?

What character was that? I'm not being snide...I seriously didn't notice. EDIT: never mind, I must have missed this because I was multi-tasking while watching the show (which is why the Klingon subtitles annoyed me.)

[Tisket]

/nerd on:

Random thoughts:

I think Lorca might be a bad guy in disguise. And, if he has a problem with light hurting his battle damaged eyes then why the fuck doesn't he wear sunglasses outside his dimmed office?

I know it was a storytelling device but come on, a convicted mutineer and traitor is really going to be assigned to bunk with a cadet? Not likely.

I will be very disappointed if that monster Lorca took from the other ship for his private menagerie doesn't, at some point, get beamed onto an enemy vessel to wreak havoc.

The new technology being created for faster travel is obviously going to fail as there is nothing like it in later franchise series history but, maybe it will be adapted to create holodeck technology?

Who the fuck is the actor who plays Sarek? He seemed so familiar. Apparently, if you slap a set of pointy ears on someone, it's enough of a disguise that it will fool me. The Clark Kent's of the world are safe from me.

/nerd off

[Taernath]

Who the fuck is the actor who plays Sarek? He seemed so familiar. Apparently, if you slap a set of pointy ears on someone, it's enough of a disguise that it will fool me. The Clark Kent's of the world are safe from me.

James Frain? Maybe second season of True Detective, Gotham, or the Tudors.

[Tisket]

James Frain? Maybe second season of True Detective, Gotham, or the Tudors.

Ohhh, I remember him from The Tudors.

Thanks for googling that for my lazy ass.

[Androidpk]

He plays in a ton of TV shows.

[Gelston]

/nerd on:

Random thoughts:

I think Lorca might be a bad guy in disguise. And, if he has a problem with light hurting his battle damaged eyes then why the fuck doesn't he wear sunglasses outside his dimmed office?

/nerd off

Actually, I think he is Section 31. Not a bad guy, but not a good guy either.

[Tisket]

The chatterbox cadet is very plain in appearance but she has the most amazing red hair when it's worn down.

/random

[Gelston]

The chatterbox cadet is very plain in appearance but she has the most amazing red hair when it's worn down.

/random

She was on After Trek for Episode 3.

BTW, I'm assuming you are on your free week? If you go to cancel it towards the end of the week, they'll offer you an additional free month.

[Tisket]

She was on After Trek for Episode 3.

BTW, I'm assuming you are on your free week? If you go to cancel it towards the end of the week, they'll offer you an additional free month.

Good to know. Is there any other show that is Access only that is worth watching? Otherwise they will probably see a rush of cancellations after this series goes on break. It's supposed to be like nine episodes for the first season of Discovery, right?

[Gelston]

Good to know. Is there any other show that is Access only that is worth watching? Otherwise they will probably see a rush of cancellations after this series goes on break. It's supposed to be like nine episodes for the first season of Discovery, right?

Like 13 or 14, and... Well, not really IMO. You can get local programming on it if you are a cord cutter and don't know about the existence of antennas.

[Gelston]

Actually, IMDB shows 15 episodes.

[Parkbandit]

/nerd on:

Random thoughts:

I think Lorca might be a bad guy in disguise. And, if he has a problem with light hurting his battle damaged eyes then why the fuck doesn't he wear sunglasses outside his dimmed office?

I know it was a storytelling device but come on, a convicted mutineer and traitor is really going to be assigned to bunk with a cadet? Not likely.

I will be very disappointed if that monster Lorca took from the other ship for his private menagerie doesn't, at some point, get beamed onto an enemy vessel to wreak havoc.

The new technology being created for faster travel is obviously going to fail as there is nothing like it in later franchise series history but, maybe it will be adapted to create holodeck technology?

Who the fuck is the actor who plays Sarek? He seemed so familiar. Apparently, if you slap a set of pointy ears on someone, it's enough of a disguise that it will fool me. The Clark Kent's of the world are safe from me.

/nerd off

Absolutely about Captain Lorca. Maybe not a bad guy persay, but probably a guy who believes that the end justifies the means. Didn't like how he allowed Stamets to talk to him in front of others.. or how Lorca belittled him in front of everyone as well. Doesn't seem like a good leadership quality in a Captain.

Pretty sure he's either the villain (it's not really the Klingons) or just a bad Captain.

Either way.. I'm hooked now.

[Tisket]

Actually, IMDB shows 15 episodes.

Good!

[Tisket]

Either way.. I'm hooked now.

^^^^^

[Gelston]

Loved the one last night.


Spoiler in white, because does nothing.
No one is safe! I mean, I guess she'd technically be a red shirt, but she was a high ranking one.

[Tisket]

Loved the one last night.


Spoiler in white, because does nothing.
No one is safe! I mean, I guess she'd technically be a red shirt, but she was a high ranking one.

That was a big surprise to me. I mean, she was a major character in Battlestar Galactica so I was certain they were setting her up as a regular on Discovery. I hope they don't pull a "oh hey, she has a twin who is joining the crew now!" story arc.

I'm so tired to subtitles. I wish they'd stop. I don't like reading my TV entertainment.

I felt sorry for the monster but it's a pretty ingenious way to incorporate new technology that isn't in later Star Trek series since the inhumane treatment of a sentient being would never be acceptable by later Trek standards.

[Gelston]

That was a big surprise to me. I mean, she was a major character in Battlestar Galactica so I was certain they were setting her up as a regular on Discovery. I hope they don't pull a "oh hey, she has a twin who is joining the crew now!" story arc.

I'm so tired to subtitles. I wish they'd stop. I don't like reading my TV entertainment.

I felt sorry for the monster but it's a pretty ingenious way to incorporate new technology that isn't in later Star Trek series since the inhumane treatment of a sentient being would never be acceptable by later Trek standards.

Yeah, I figured there was going to be some sort of way that they explain away spores not appearing in later Star Treks. I was thinking they were going to be limited or something, because it seems to me that a different Civilization, like the Klingons, would one day figure out this whole spore thing and not give two shits about some critter suffering. I'm sure there'll be an explanation later though.

The subtitles are annoying, I wish they'd use the old way where they spoke mostly in English still with klingon words tossed in for flavor.

[Gelston]

Confirmed for a second season. It won't release until 2019, but the first season is supposed to stretch into 2018.

[Parkbandit]

Great episode imo

[Gelston]

Great episode imo

Definitely. They seem to be getting better each week.

[Gelston]

BTW, if none of you realized it...

https://www.thejc.com/image/policy:1.430543:1484233866/Lucius-purebloods-19262802-1574-2100-a.jpg?f=16x9&h=576&w=1024&$p$f$h$w=8664de3

[Tisket]

Holy fuck. Totally missed that connection. I mean, he seemed familiar but in a vague way.

[Parkbandit]

I didn't watch the Harry Potter movies.. never interested me. I knew him from The Patriot:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/c/cd/Colonel_William_Tavington.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130502151958

[Tisket]

Was he the elf king in the Hobbit movies?

[Fallen]

Nope. Different guy.

[Gelston]

Was he the elf king in the Hobbit movies?

Nah, that was Hugo Weaving, who is also Agent Smith from the Matrix.

[Taernath]

Nah, that was Hugo Weaving, who is also Agent Smith from the Matrix.

I think she's talking about the more recent ones, Thranduil, played by Lee Pace. Because yeah, it does look like him.

https://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/thranduil.jpg

[Gelston]

I think she's talking about the more recent ones, Thranduil, played by Lee Pace. Because yeah, it does look like him.

https://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/thranduil.jpg

Blkeh, she even said Hobbit movies. I just don't ever think of them, because LotR trilogy was 100000x better.

[Tisket]

I think she's talking about the more recent ones, Thranduil, played by Lee Pace. Because yeah, it does look like him.

https://atolkienistperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/thranduil.jpg

I don't remember his eyebrows being so bold.

Anyway, it seems that if you stick a long blonde wig on a white man, I can't tell them apart.

[Tisket]

Wow, they really do look the same to me:

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1199&bih=844&q=men+with+long+blonde+hair&oq=men+with+long+blonde+hair&gs_l=img.3..0j0i5i30k1l2j0i8i30k1.1773.6288.0.7008 .26.26.0.0.0.0.98.1781.25.25.0....0...1.1.64.img.. 1.25.1776.0..0i30k1.0.rLutUMzogUo

[Wrathbringer]

I don't remember his eyebrows being so bold.

Anyway, it seems that if you stick a long blonde wig on a white man, I can't tell them apart.

Wow that was racist.

[Wrathbringer]

Wow, they really do look the same to me:

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1199&bih=844&q=men+with+long+blonde+hair&oq=men+with+long+blonde+hair&gs_l=img.3..0j0i5i30k1l2j0i8i30k1.1773.6288.0.7008 .26.26.0.0.0.0.98.1781.25.25.0....0...1.1.64.img.. 1.25.1776.0..0i30k1.0.rLutUMzogUo

This, again, is very racist.

[Tisket]

This, again, is very racist.

I know, right?

[Wrathbringer]

I know, right?

Your presence is requested in the thread of randomness to weigh in on the current happenings.

[Parkbandit]

I don't trust Lt. Tyler... that whole escape from the prison and becoming the Security Chief was toooooo convenient.

[Gelston]

I don't trust Lt. Tyler... that whole escape from the prison and becoming the Security Chief was toooooo convenient.

On one of the FB groups I'm in, people are saying he is Voq in disguise.

[Parkbandit]

On one of the FB groups I'm in, people are saying he is Voq in disguise.

The white Klingon, right?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/Voq.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170926210814&path-prefix=en

I don't see it. Why would they make that leap? Because we haven't seen Voq since he would have to lose everything to be leader of the Klingons?

[Parkbandit]

Shit, I was going to post a pic of Lt. Tyler.. and found this:

https://scifanatic-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/voq-tyler-2.png

[Gelston]

The white Klingon, right?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/Voq.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170926210814&path-prefix=en

I don't see it. Why would they make that leap? Because we haven't seen Voq since he would have to lose everything to be leader of the Klingons?

Yeah at the timelines add up. Taken "capture" at the battle of the Binary Stars... That was the last place he was at before he vanished. He was also told by the female klingon he'll need to "destroy them from the inside". And then of course, he picked a ship the he knew was destroyed as the one he came from.

[Tisket]

I agree, Ash is not to be trusted. Even his name is suspicious.

[Parkbandit]

I agree, Ash is not to be trusted. Even his name is suspicious.

What an ashole!

[Tisket]

Hahaha

[Tisket]

Apparently the actor who plays the mushroom man on Discovery has accused Kevin Spacey of attempted rape of a minor:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/10/30/entertainment/kevin-spacey-allegations-anthony-rapp/index.html

Spacey then came out as gay. Which is less interesting than that he's also a pedophile apparently. What a twat.

Posting it here since I'm lazy.

[Gelston]

Speaking of here, the last episode was the most Star Trek episode ever. I mean, switch the visuals and it was easily a TOS story.

[Parkbandit]

Speaking of here, the last episode was the most Star Trek episode ever. I mean, switch the visuals and it was easily a TOS story.

I was avoiding this thread because I haven't seen last night's episode yet.. good to know!

[Tisket]

It was a good episode.

[Gelston]

Fucking cliffhanger endings. Next week is the fall finale I guess?

[drauz]

https://i.imgur.com/YsXd4rd.gif

[Parkbandit]

Star Trek meets Avatar?

[Gelston]

BOOM! Tyler is Voq.

[Tisket]

BOOM! Tyler is Voq.

I knew it.

I think this episode was one of the best of the entire Star Trek franchise. The quality of the production, the writing, and the acting almost made me feel like I was watching a movie. The whole thing was really well done but my favorite bits were the badass elevator fight scene and Lorca using a Scotty impersonation.

edit: I do wish they would flesh out the backstories and personalities of the bridge crew though. Like the robot lady and the one with the cybernetic implants. I mean, we know how she got the implants but little else about her.

[Gelston]

I knew it.

I think this episode was one of the best of the entire Star Trek franchise. The quality of the production, the writing, and the acting almost made me feel like I was watching a movie. The whole thing was really well done but my favorite bits were the badass elevator fight scene and Lorca using a Scotty impersonation.

A lot of people were saying Tyler was Voq, from the moment Voq stopped appearing and then Tyler showed up. That they were played by the same actor helped continue the rumor. There were still many who doubted it though. Even sites trying to "prove" it wasn't true.

Also, I love the mirror universe. I wish there was a series about the Terran Empire. I don't know how popular it'd be though.

[Tisket]

A lot of people were saying Tyler was Voq, from the moment Voq stopped appearing and then Tyler showed up. That they were played by the same actor helped continue the rumor. There were still many who doubted it though. Even sites trying to "prove" it wasn't true.

I didn't know it was the same actor.

[Gelston]

I didn't know it was the same actor.

Yep. the cast and all that tried to keep it a secret, but it got out.

this is a neat story about it. They basically invented a fake actor and credited him as the role of Voq.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-11-12/star-trek-discovery-shazad-latif-voq-tyler-fan-theory-javid-iqbal/