Setting Stats for 100

[Fortybox]

I was wondering what the consensus was for setting bard stats to cap? Normally I tank INF but that is a main stat for bards. What stat should be dropped instead?

[Tgo01]

I was wondering what the consensus was for setting bard stats to cap? Normally I tank INF but that is a main stat for bards. What stat should be dropped instead?

Yeah INF is actually important for bards. I would probably go with INT and then WIS or DIS, whichever one you can get more total stat points from.

[Fortybox]

Yeah INF is actually important for bards. I would probably go with INT and then WIS or DIS, whichever one you can get more total stat points from.

What would you recommend? Halfling.

[Zarston]

Int

[Tgo01]

What would you recommend? Halfling.

Nice thing about a halfling bard is they can get 100's in 9 stats with just one sub 100. So either a 79 DIS, 83 WIS, or 80 INT.

Now if you just want most total stat points the choice is obvious.

The main thing about INT for a bard is the dodge/evade system (but I don't think an 80 instead of a 100 is going to make a huge difference in this system.) But INT now also helps with defending against the new 917, so if you hunt shit that uses that INT might be good.

DIS doesn't do a whole lot for bards either except a very minor impact on total experience in their head and some society abilities use it, possibly COL abilities in the future too.

WIS doesn't do much for a bard either except provide some sweet spirit TD which is hard to come by for a bard.

Personally I would go with 80 INT but 79 DIS isn't a bad choice either. Or mix them up a little bit if you don't mind having one fewer 100 stats.

[LeftBench]

I'm terrible with the cruncher.. any way you could provide the starting 0 stats to achieve 9 100's and the 80 INT at cap for a halfling bard?

Thanks

[Tgo01]

I'm terrible with the cruncher.. any way you could provide the starting 0 stats to achieve 9 100's and the 80 INT at cap for a halfling bard?

Thanks

It's all right here:

http://www.nitefallz.com/statmax.html

[Dazmar]

It's all right here:

http://www.nitefallz.com/statmax.html

Nice

[kcostell]

One other thing discipline impacts for bards is multisong penalties.

[Alashir]

It's all right here:

http://www.nitefallz.com/statmax.html

Unless I'm using it wrong all that does is throw me a bunch of 90s. It attempts max values in all stats

[Tgo01]

Unless I'm using it wrong all that does is throw me a bunch of 90s. It attempts max values in all stats

You put in there the minimum you want each stat to be, so set all the stats to 100 that you want to be 100.

[Alashir]

How would you use this if you didn't already know max stats for halfling bard? If I set them all to 100 it errors out

[Viekn]

How would you use this if you didn't already know max stats for halfling bard? If I set them all to 100 it errors out

Unless there's something wrong with that site, you can't get all 100's as a halfling bard, which is why it would error out. You just put in that you're a bard and that you're a halfling and calculate and those are what your stats will max out to be at 100 if your goal is to have as many of your stats be 100 at cap as possible.

[Tgo01]

How would you use this if you didn't already know max stats for halfling bard? If I set them all to 100 it errors out

Because 100 in everything isn't possible for any race or class combination.

How I typically use the calculator is I figure out which stat I don't care about being at 100 (which is usually INF but not in the case of bards of course) then I set INF at 20 and all other stats at 100. If the race/class combo can attain 100's in everything but INF then it will give me a screen showing how to set each stat at level 0 to attain this. If it's not possible it will give me a message saying it's not possible at which point I set another stat that I don't care about being at 100 to 20, so both this new stat and INF will be at 20 and everything else will be at 100.

Pretty sure all race/class combos can manage 100 in 8 stats with sub 100's in 2 stats, it just depends on the 2 stats you are setting to sub 100. So for example I would set INF and DIS to 20 and the rest will be at 100 and the website will calculate the highest possible stat point totals between INF and DIS, figures out what other stats need to be set to at 0 to achieve 100's, and gives you all of these stats.

[Alashir]

Unless there's something wrong with that site, you can't get all 100's as a halfling bard, which is why it would error out. You just put in that you're a bard and that you're a halfling and calculate and those are what your stats will max out to be at 100 if your goal is to have as many of your stats be 100 at cap as possible.

The site errors out if you say you want 100s in every stat because it's not achievable. It works if you already know the values but that's redundant. If there's another way to get them from that site I'm not aware.

I've figured out best values for stats by playing around with various calculators for 660 point values but I've [surprisingly] never found a program that does it for you

[Alashir]

Because 100 in everything isn't possible for any race or class combination.

How I typically use the calculator is I figure out which stat I don't care about being at 100 (which is usually INF but not in the case of bards of course) then I set INF at 20 and all other stats at 100. If the race/class combo can attain 100's in everything but INF then it will give me a screen showing how to set each stat at level 0 to attain this. If it's not possible it will give me a message saying it's not possible at which point I set another stat that I don't care about being at 100 to 20, so both this new stat and INF will be at 20 and everything else will be at 100.

Pretty sure all race/class combos can manage 100 in 8 stats with sub 100's in 2 stats, it just depends on the 2 stats you are setting to sub 100. So for example I would set INF and DIS to 20 and the rest will be at 100 and the website will calculate the highest possible stat point totals between INF and DIS, figures out what other stats need to be set to at 0 to achieve 100's, and gives you all of these stats.

Ooooooo. Well this should be a sticky then

[Seizer]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?94757-GS4-Character-Planner-v1-0