Do you want to see more moderation on PC?

[Tsk Tsk]

So is this something people seriously feel is lacking here? Or do you like things the way they are?

[Mogonis]

Ugh, we shouldn't start this again.

[Astray]

To swat the shit heads, certainly. But other than that, it's fine. Despite the politics folder being a cancerous hole and the occasional pathetic "troll", the PC is fine.

[Tsk Tsk]

Ugh, we shouldn't start this again.

Well, I say let the people speak. A poll is a lot easier to gauge opinion than 60+ pages of back and fourth. If this is the direction folks want to move in, might as well let Kranar see for himself.

[SonoftheNorth]

Add tacos to the poll

[Tsk Tsk]

Add tacos to the poll

THIS IS A SERIOUS POLL. I WILL BAN YOU!

[SonoftheNorth]

Post nudes?

[Tsk Tsk]

Post nudes?

omfg

[nocturnix]

More rules is not the same as more moderation. Poll is misleading. A few core rules that are well enforced would go a long way.

[SashaFierce]

Holy shit, Tsk Tsk is Hello.

[SonoftheNorth]

More rules is not the same as more moderation. A few core rules that are well enforced would go a long way.

WHO WILL POLICE THE POLICE?

[SashaFierce]

It's not about moderation for me. I want features. I want software that actually gets, you know, updated with security patches.

I want to be freaking notified when someone sends me a PM instead of having to refresh the page or check the inbox. I hate it when I check the PC after ignoring it for an hour, only to see that someone sent a PM 50 minutes ago and now they're gone, making me wait hours, or days for them to come back.

[nocturnix]

WHO WILL POLICE THE POLICE?

sweet baby yeesus!

[Androidpk]

I would like to see some moderating in regards to the fake users/posts but other than that no.

[Tsk Tsk]

Holy shit, Tsk Tsk is Hello.

How dare you.

[Tgo01]

More rules is not the same as more moderation. Poll is misleading. A few core rules that are well enforced would go a long way.

I don't like established rules. Honestly the only rules I would set in place is to leave the merchant folders alone, let people buy and sell in peace. The only exception of course would be an actual warning of a possible scammer and not just someone being a dick.

Other than that I would ban people who are clearly just here to be dicks in every aspect of the forum. I know the usual suspects are PB, Neveragain, Wrathbringer, and myself, but for the most part we stick to the politics/off topic folders with our bullshit. Neveragain and PB are hardly even in the GS related parts of the forum, Wrathbringer is mostly harmless with his shart and rep comments. Shit I wouldn't even ban time4fun because again she mostly just spews her bullshit in the politics folder.

I mean the downright nasty people who are all over the forum, making not a single topic safe. People such as hello, although he hasn't been as bad ever since this new safe space forum opened up.

I would prefer a mod who can be trusted to keep things in order without the need for established rules, to use common sense when someone needs to be banned. You know, someone like me.

[Mogonis]

Well, I say let the people speak. A poll is a lot easier to gauge opinion than 60+ pages of back and fourth. If this is the direction folks want to move in, might as well let Kranar see for himself.
I meant that this discussion already has a thread that you probably missed (I think I saw you came back after a long time away), and it wasn't exactly constructive. Kranar is about as hands off as he can be, and Whirlin has already said he's had trouble getting Kranar to respond and stuff.

[Fallen]

The PC doesn't need more moderation. It needs more customization. The ability to hide/squelch threads, folders, posts, reputation etc.

[Tsk Tsk]

Would upgrading this forum to vBulletin 5 connect mobile give enough new features to make everyone happy? Just curious. I'm just trying to problem solve rather than spread everyone out.

https://www.vbulletin.com/en/features/

[Taernath]

There are only a couple of people who need to be banned, the rest more or less falls in line.

[SashaFierce]

Would upgrading this forum to vBulletin 5 connect mobile give enough new features to make everyone happy? Just curious. I'm just trying to problem solve rather than spread everyone out.

https://www.vbulletin.com/en/features/

LOL @ Updates.

What part of Kranar has no interest don't you understand?

[SonoftheNorth]

LOL @ Updates.

What part of Kranar has no interest don't you understand?

He had an interest in removing you as mod after you bamboozled him.

[Tsk Tsk]

LOL @ Updates.

What part of Kranar has no interest don't you understand?

You don't have to be here every day to care about this forum. You're a feisty one.

[Androidpk]

You want Kranar to act on forum updates? Tell him Buckwheat is starting his own GS forum.

[Tgo01]

You want Kranar to act on forum updates? Tell him Buckwheat is starting his own GS forum.

lol

I was actually thinking that.

[SashaFierce]

He had an interest in removing you as mod after you bamboozled him.

Yeah, because I was in contact with him at the time and told him I would step down to calm the herd. He changed things and disappeared again.


You don't have to be here every day to care about this forum. You're a feisty one.

You don't have to come here and act like Hello 2.0 either, but here you are creating stupid polls about shit you obviously know nothing about.


You want Kranar to act on forum updates? Tell him Buckwheat is starting his own GS forum.

I believe he actually offered the PC to Buckwheet and Buckwheet said he wasn't interested.

[Androidpk]

I believe he actually offered the PC to Buckwheet and Buckwheet said he wasn't interested.

I'm pretty sure that never happened considering the beef they have/had with each other.

[SonoftheNorth]

You don't have to come here and act like Hello 2.0 either, but here you are creating stupid polls about shit you obviously know nothing about.


Why can you spout bullshit but she can't?

[Tgo01]

You don't have to come here and act like Hello 2.0 either, but here you are creating stupid polls about shit you obviously know nothing about.

You're getting awfully upset, SashaFierce. If only there were a safe space you could retreat to.

[Androidpk]

lol

I was actually thinking that.

I've done it before and it worked. This was around 2 years when there was an issue with the forum going down or something.

[Tsk Tsk]

You don't have to come here and act like Hello 2.0 either, but here you are creating stupid polls about shit you obviously know nothing about.

I've been on PC longer than you. I win!

[SashaFierce]

Why can you spout bullshit but she can't?

You can call me on bullshit, but I can't call her on bullshit? Stop trying to moderate me.


You're getting awfully upset, SashaFierce. If only there were a safe space you could retreat to.

I know, I'm almost as triggered as you when anyone types the word rapist or new forum.

[Mogonis]

I've been on PC longer than you. I win!
Well, not really. This isn't his first username here.

[SashaFierce]

I've been on PC longer than you. I win!

If you've been around for so long you shouldn't be so fucking stupid.

[Tgo01]

I've done it before and it worked. This was around 2 years when there was an issue with the forum going down or something.

Yeah I remember that. The PC was having problems for a few days or something and it looked like nothing was being done about it, Buckwheat starts his own forum and next thing you know a few hours later or the next day and the PC was back up with a new upgrade and everything.

In fact I think a lot of the features we use now were a result of that particular upgrade.

[Tsk Tsk]

If you've been around for so long you shouldn't be so fucking stupid.

I'm sorry you don't like my poll.

[Tgo01]

If you've been around for so long you shouldn't be so fucking stupid.

Oh, man, Whirlin. Is this really the face of your new forum? Is this the person you want advertising your new safe space? Might want to get a new spokesperson.

[nocturnix]

Sounds like the consensus so far is: yah some people should be banned, but otherwise not too much more. Some features needed. I am in agreement with all this, it is exactly what I've been saying all along. Kranar is not as close minded as you may think. Ultimately his main sticking point is moderation and a free spirit approach to the forums. Wich it seems like even the non-troll types want to keep. But maybe he would compromise on at least establishing some bare bones ground rules. I can reach out to him about it tomorrow.

What I did with my eq forums to strike a balance was having an "inferno" forum where basically anything goes. Here that is the politics forum. But I would change it and restructure slightly, then mod staff has to be consistent in moving flame threads there. This is a start, more needs to be done but typing from my phone. Anybody miss Tapatalk besides me?

[Gelston]

Goddamn it, Inurtia. Why did you create a goddamn poll?

[Wrathbringer]

Oh, man, Whirlin. Is this really the face of your new forum? Is this the person you want advertising your new safe space? Might want to get a new spokesperson.

@whirlin

[Taernath]

I'm pretty sure that never happened considering the beef they have/had with each other.

What's the deal with that? I must have missed it. I know about the 'PC is down' forums.

[SonoftheNorth]

Oh, man, Whirlin. Is this really the face of your new forum? Is this the person you want advertising your new safe space? Might want to get a new spokesperson.

Its funny how quickly he turns into a rabid spiteful lil cunt. If the new boards follow their terms of service I don't see him lasting long.

[SashaFierce]

Oh, man, Whirlin. Is this really the face of your new forum? Is this the person you want advertising your new safe space? Might want to get a new spokesperson.

Oh, I'm sorry. Is my toxic attitude and general shitposting bothering you? Do you need a safe space? Would you like some moderation?

[Tsk Tsk]

Goddamn it, Inurtia. Why did you create a goddamn poll?

I'm rusty here ok? Cut me some slack. Let this thread go quietly into the night if you don't like it!

[SashaFierce]

It's funny how quickly you guys call for Whirlin when someone besides you, talks the way you talk on a daily basis.

That reflection of you is pretty ugly isn't it.

[Mogonis]

Banning usernames is different from banning people. It'd be easier to delete posts/threads, but even that could be a part-time job.

[subzero]

THIS IS A SERIOUS POLL. I WILL BAN YOU!

Nobody takes them seriously, though.

[Androidpk]

Yeah I remember that. The PC was having problems for a few days or something and it looked like nothing was being done about it, Buckwheat starts his own forum and next thing you know a few hours later or the next day and the PC was back up with a new upgrade and everything.

In fact I think a lot of the features we use now were a result of that particular upgrade.

Kranar literally told me in an email that's why he stepped in to fix things, because Buckwheat.

[subzero]

I hate it when I check the PC after ignoring it for an hour, only to see that someone sent a PM 50 minutes ago and now they're gone, making me wait hours, or days for them to come back.

Damn, needy much?

[Whirlin]

I don't like established rules. Honestly the only rules I would set in place is to leave the merchant folders alone, let people buy and sell in peace. The only exception of course would be an actual warning of a possible scammer and not just someone being a dick.

Other than that I would ban people who are clearly just here to be dicks in every aspect of the forum. I know the usual suspects are PB, Neveragain, Wrathbringer, and myself, but for the most part we stick to the politics/off topic folders with our bullshit. Neveragain and PB are hardly even in the GS related parts of the forum, Wrathbringer is mostly harmless with his shart and rep comments. Shit I wouldn't even ban time4fun because again she mostly just spews her bullshit in the politics folder.

I mean the downright nasty people who are all over the forum, making not a single topic safe. People such as hello, although he hasn't been as bad ever since this new safe space forum opened up.
I agree with that assessment, and all those you identified would be on my short list of banning. I understand isolating the shinanigans, but without a way to manage what content is displayed to the user or a mechanism to opt in/out, etc (ie: plugins), whether isolated or not, would need to be treated equally. If it could be properly isolated, I'd give less than 0 fucks if you fucked around with whatever the fuck you do. There was such a hissy fit over even deleting anything Hello said in the other forum concern thread, that I've stuck to merchanting stuff per initial scope requested by Kranar when my permissions were granted.

Furthermore, as mentioned elsewhere, without admin, more banning tools, and better authentication requirements, all I can do is whack a mole with user accounts. Like Hello, the asshats you identified will just be back the next day on whatever account they want. We'd be up to Tgo102018 by tomorrow evening! It's not as effective as it is perceived as.

[Tgo01]

Oh, I'm sorry. Is my toxic attitude and general shitposting bothering you? Do you need a safe space? Would you like some moderation?

Yes, please, do you happen to know of such a place?

[Whirlin]

Oh, man, Whirlin. Is this really the face of your new forum? Is this the person you want advertising your new safe space? Might want to get a new spokesperson.
He's not a spokesman... just a user, much like your own relation with PC. The exact same tier. Only admins are Ondreian, Tysong, and myself.

[Tgo01]

It's funny how quickly you guys call for Whirlin when someone besides you, talks the way you talk on a daily basis.

No, SashaFierce, just the pieces of shit who whined for a safe space and as soon as they got their wish decided to stay here anyways :)

You don't see me giving Tenlaar or Luntz shit do ya?

[Tgo01]

I agree with that assessment, and all those you identified would be on my short list of banning.

"All" those people I identified? I only named one person I thought needed to be banned, the others were examples of people I don't want to see banned, even though they are the ones who are usually brought up as needing to be banned.

It is interesting you think time4fun needs to be banned though. That's gotta make her wince at your new forum.

[SashaFierce]

No, SashaFierce, just the pieces of shit who whined for a safe space and as soon as they got their wish decided to stay here anyways :)

You don't see me giving Tenlaar or Luntz shit do ya?

You're giving me shit and I didn't whine for a safe space, nor abandon you.


"All" those people I identified? I only named one person I thought needed to be banned, the others were examples of people I don't want to see banned, even though they are the ones who are usually brought up as needing to be banned.

It is interesting you think time4fun needs to be banned though. That's gotta make her wince at your new forum.

It's not true that those names stick to one general spot. One of them in particular gives shart reps to everyone.

[Tgo01]

You're giving me shit and I didn't whine for a safe space, nor abandon you.

You didn't whine about how people were picking on you? Shit. You tricked Kranar into making you a mod then proceeded to delete entire threads where people were being meanie heads. You are like the poster child of people on this forum screaming for a safe space forum.

[SashaFierce]

You didn't whine about how people were picking on you? Shit. You tricked Kranar into making you a mod then proceeded to delete entire threads where people were being meanie heads. You are like the poster child of people on this forum screaming for a safe space forum.

Uh, no?

And I'm obviously a silver-tongued devil, and Kranar is foolish enough to believe my delicious lies, amirite?

I deleted 1 thread, created by Haldrik, where he made up lies to create drama. Oh no!

[Tenlaar]

I deleted 1 thread, created by Haldrik, where he made up lies to create drama. Oh no!

You literally have a link in your own signature to a thread that displays you deleting posts from multiple people saying that you are untrustworthy and shouldn't be in charge of any kind of list of people who are trustworthy.

Which, by the way, is how I ended up re-reading the thread about what a horrible and sketchy moderator you were.

[SashaFierce]

You literally have a link in your own signature to a thread that displays you deleting posts from multiple people saying that you are untrustworthy and shouldn't be in charge of any kind of list of people who are trustworthy.

Which, by the way, is how I ended up re-reading the thread about what a horrible and sketchy moderator you were.

Are we talking about threads, or posts? I deleted Shartbringers posts too.

Are you happy now? Or are you just going to find more things to argue about because you're lonely and at least if you start an argument someone will talk to you.

[Mogonis]

Are we talking about threads, or posts? I deleted Shartbringers posts too.

Are you happy now? Or are you just going to find more things to argue about because you're lonely and at least if you start an argument someone will talk to you.
He's to the point of name-calling and projecting his own situation onto others.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dy5859e3df.gif

[SashaFierce]

I'm obsessed so I need to follow people around and post Jiffs to make people think I'm cool and part of the gang.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/dy5859e3df.gif

.

[Mogonis]

Precisely. Now that's out of the way.

[Wrathbringer]

Are we talking about threads, or posts? I deleted Shartbringers posts too.

Are you happy now?.

You bastard!!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

You want Kranar to act on forum updates? Tell him Buckwheat is starting his own GS forum.

Holy shit, I actually snort laughed.

[Tenlaar]

Are we talking about threads, or posts? I deleted Shartbringers posts too.

Are you happy now? Or are you just going to find more things to argue about because you're lonely and at least if you start an argument someone will talk to you.

Well played. It really bothers me when people bring up things that I did which are completely relevant and refute my statements too. Best response is to lash out with a random and unfounded personal attack rather than owning up to your own mistakes.

[Parkbandit]

Sounds like the consensus so far is: yah some people should be banned, but otherwise not too much more.

Like who should actually be banned and for what reasons?


Some features needed. I am in agreement with all this, it is exactly what I've been saying all along. Kranar is not as close minded as you may think. Ultimately his main sticking point is moderation and a free spirit approach to the forums. Wich it seems like even the non-troll types want to keep. But maybe he would compromise on at least establishing some bare bones ground rules. I can reach out to him about it tomorrow.

What I did with my eq forums to strike a balance was having an "inferno" forum where basically anything goes. Here that is the politics forum. But I would change it and restructure slightly, then mod staff has to be consistent in moving flame threads there. This is a start, more needs to be done but typing from my phone. Anybody miss Tapatalk besides me?

YES! Tapatalk needs to happen.

[Latrinsorm]

OP: Yes.

[drauz]

OP: Yes.

You also want universal surveillance, right? No surprise there.

[Methais]

THIS IS A SERIOUS POLL. I WILL BAN YOU!

We don't take pills without tacos seriously around here.

[SHAFT]

Tacos weren't an option.

I'm not voting.

[Mogonis]

We don't take pills without tacos seriously around here.
A spoonful of tacos makes the medicine go down?

[Methais]

WHO WILL POLICE THE POLICE?

THE POLICE POLICE!

[drauz]

THE POLICE POLICE!

But who polices the POLICE POLICE?!

[Methais]

But who polices the POLICE POLICE?!

Latrinsorm.

[Latrinsorm]

You also want universal surveillance, right? No surprise there.DrauzP: Yes.
Latrinsorm.I would be so good at it though! You "can" "trust" me!

[Methais]

DrauzP: Yes.I would be so good at it though! You "can" "trust" me!

That's why I said it! I know you won't fap to people while they're showering like I do to Tisket and...hey wait a minute did I say that out loud?

https://media.giphy.com/media/jUwpNzg9IcyrK/giphy.gif

[drauz]

You "can" "trust" me!

I doubt a certain singer/songwriter could though