On behalf of the Colts...

[AnticorRifling]

I would just like to say GET OFF OUR NUTS!


You can't stop us!!!

Discuss.

[Mistomeer]

Fuck the broncos. Good thing they talked alot of shit this week.

[Makkah]

You really think the Colts will win it all? LOL


rht

[Stunseed]

I think the Colts have the better chance to do so. I can easily see Indy beating New England in a shootout, and I'm not sure that the Jets will lose to Pittsburgh, to be honest.

As far as their opponent in the Superbowl, ehh....Anything is possible, I suppose.

Edited to say I personally thought the Chargers would have easily beaten the Jets, so take this with a grain of salt.

[Edited on 1-9-2005 by Stunseed]

[Kefka]

I'm in New York and can honestly say the Jets will get destroyed by Pittsburgh.

[Stunseed]

The Jets gave them all sorts of problems in their last meeting....I'm not sure that the Steelers can make the right adjustments to stop some blaring mismatches that would occur.

Or the Steelers could blow the Jets out of the water so bad that the Jets relocate to Maine or something.

[Kefka]

I'm thinking it's the latter. Just like last night's game, the Jets are just as capable of killing themselves.

[Latrinsorm]

Colts all the way.

To all my New York peoples:

If you are a Yankee fan and at the same time, a Jets fan, you are committing heresy.

[Sean of the Thread]

COLTS VS MINN superbowl !!

Philly sucks, ATL overated and vick is the most overated player in the league.

[Kefka]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
To all my New York peoples:

If you are a Yankee fan and at the same time, a Jets fan, you are committing heresy.


Actually, I'm a Mets fan and Giants fan. National League = NFC. Fair is fair. :P

[crazymage]

Manning vs NE 2 - 8

Manning vs NE in foxborough 0-6

nuff said

[Latrinsorm]

Honestly, I've never heard of someone being a Giants and Yankees fan. "Blue is blue, and the Yankees suck" is probably the only thing I'd ever get tattooed on me, except for it's common knowledge.

For Sergey: no one ever came back from 0-3. No .500 team ever won a playoff game. Peyton Manning is having one of the best seasons evar. But please, take comfort in your statistics. I hope they provide you with solace once the Peyn Train is mercifully done running through New England.

[Alarke]

I can see the Colts/NE game just being a pure shootout. I think Colts will have a lot to prove and come out ready to play and upset the pats. Doesn't matter though cause Pitt is going all the way this year. Oh.. and of course the Bears in '06.

[Hulkein]

Stillers vs. Jets - Stillers

NE vs. Colts - Colts

Eagles vs. Vikes - Eagles

Falcons vs. Rams - Either losing to Eagles anyway.

SB - Eagles vs. Stillers

[Edited on 1-10-2005 by Hulkein]

[theotherjohn]

again this week I would like to see all visiting teams win

I really want Vick and his insane contract out of the playoffs

[Keller]

Minnesota & Philly - Minnesota
Altlanta & St Louis - Atlanta
Indy & New England - Indy
Pittsburgh & Jets - Jets

Indy beats Atlanta in the Super Bowl.

[peam]

Keller has it almost right, except Pittsburgh will beat the Jets and in turn get beat by Indy.

Eagles will beat Minnesota only to continue their NFC championship tradition.

Filthydelphia is going down the Hotlanta. Hard.

[Edited on 1-10-2005 by peam]

[Parkbandit]

Vikings vs Eagles - Vikings
Falcons vs Rams - Rams
Colts vs Patriots - Colts
Steelers vs Jets - Jets


Vikings vs Rams - Vikings
Colts vs Jets - Colts

Vikings vs Colts - Colts

[Ardwen]

Bah Manning cant beat the Mojo the Pats have on him


Ardwen

[AnticorRifling]

Ardwen what's the wager for the Colts vs Pats?

[Parkbandit]

I would say you might be correct.. if New England's pass defense wasn't hurt. But it is.

Manning won't have his best QB day ever.. but it will be right up there. It will be a shootout with the Colts defense coming up big late in the game.

Colts 38 - New England 28

[Wezas]

Go Redskins! :no:

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Ardwen what's the wager for the Colts vs Pats?

My 10m vs your 10x padded doubles. Sounds good, I accept.

[Latrinsorm]

Is any non-hometowner picking an NFC team to win it all? I can't stand any of those teams.

[Hulkein]

Haha, so funny how people are constantly glued to the Vikes nuts.

They finished what again?

And how did I say they'd do?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Vikings will get smoked, Atlanta is terrible.

[Sente]

New England has owned Indy (see Mannings record vs. Pats above)

New England hasn't lost a home game in over two years

New England under Belichick is 6-0 in the playoffs.

Indy plays in a dome, gonna be cold in New England this weekend.

If it weren't for the secondary injuries, Indy would have very little chance of winning. The door is there to buck the odds. However, New England will find a way to win.

[Edited on 1-10-2005 by Sente]

[Parkbandit]

The Patriots BARELY got by the Colts in week 1 and that was with a injury free team. Ty Law is out.. so there goes their most capable corner.

In their last meeting, Patriots were unable to stop the run (James 4.7 yds per carry) while the Colts limited Dillon to 86 yards (38 on 1 carry.. take that out and you have 3.5 yards per carry) New England had to rely on Brady's arm to win the game.. and he delivered.

Patriots are rusty while the Colts look like they are hitting the playoffs in stride. This spells trouble if you're a Pat fan.

[hectomaner]

i totally agree with PB on this.

what its going to come down to is that indy is warmed up, and NE isnt. so NE is going to have to really set up and play all 60 min of the game to make it to the next round. normally i'd say that NE would take it no problem (i love the colts, but i still think so), but having an off week is big when their opponent is just rolling over people.

either way, pittsburgh is going to win the SB so it doesnt matter all that much

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by hectomaner
what its going to come down to is that indy is warmed up, and NE isnt. so NE is going to have to really set up and play all 60 min of the game to make it to the next round. normally i'd say that NE would take it no problem (i love the colts, but i still think so), but having an off week is big when their opponent is just rolling over people.

either way, pittsburgh is going to win the SB so it doesnt matter all that much

I think NE is the most "warmed" up team that had a bye this week. I commend them for playing their last game like it mattered. I think of all the 'rusty' teams.. I think the Eagles are really going to show it early on, which is just what the Vikings will need to get a lead. That will force the Eagles to throw the ball.. and without any capable recievers.. bye bye birdies.

[hectomaner]

yeah, i was watching the eagles last game vs. the bengals. and all i have to say is i'm glad they werent playing at the game i went to (bengals vs. giants)

it would have been like that pacers game. me throwing beer on them, them jumping up and proceding to beat my ass

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by hectomaner
it would have been like that pacers game. me throwing beer on them, them jumping up and proceding to beat my ass

Nah, the Philly fans would've taken care of you for the team.

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Honestly, I've never heard of someone being a Giants and Yankees fan.

Lemme break it down.

Old school (keeping true to the roots) = NY Rangers, Yankees, Giants & Knicks...

New School (The 'ets) = Jets, Mets & Nets... I'll throw in the Islanders too.

I don't follow trends that are unoriginal.

[Edited on 1-11-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

[Sente]

For all I care, we can keep BARELY winning. What is important is that we barely WIN. Bottom line: Patriots pile up the wins, they have been piling them up on Indy. Manning is 0-6 in Foxboro (9 TD vs. 16 INT). I don't care if they were all by one point.

It's also a lot colder in December than in September. We ain't playing indoors in the turf.

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Sente
For all I care, we can keep BARELY winning. What is important is that we barely WIN. Bottom line: Patriots pile up the wins, they have been piling them up on Indy. Manning is 0-6 in Foxboro (9 TD vs. 16 INT). I don't care if they were all by one point.

It's also a lot colder in December than in September. We ain't playing indoors in the turf.

You're living in the past.

[Kefka]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Honestly, I've never heard of someone being a Giants and Yankees fan.

Lemme break it down.

Old school (keeping true to the roots) = NY Rangers, Yankees, Giants & Knicks...

New School (The 'ets) = Jets, Mets & Nets... I'll throw in the Islanders too.

I don't follow trends that are unoriginal.

[Edited on 1-11-2005 by Stanley Burrell]

1986

New York Giants - Champs
New York Mets - Champs

Hardly a new trend. And Steinbrenner leans towards the Nets and Devils. YES - NESN merger?

::Brushes off his Knicks for being placed next to the Yanks::

[Hulkein]

Hope everyone has released the Vikings nuts from their death grip and realized that they were over-hyped after being dominated by the Birds.

No bye bye birdy this week.

[Ilvane]

:break:

You know, the Pats even if they don't win won't be in bad shape considering injuries and the like.

Now they have Corey Dillon who kicks some serious butt.

Score as of right now: 6-3 Patriots.

-A

[Latrinsorm]

Anticor, what is this 3 points BS?

[Sente]

THREE POINTS?????????

THAT'S ALL THE GREAT MANNING AND HIS SUPER RECEIVERS COULD SCORE AGAINST A SECOND STRING SECONDARY (NOT TO MENTION SEYMOUR OUT ALSO)?????

FACE THE FACTS! YOU WANTED TO DENY THEM. NEW ENGLAND OWNS THE COLTS. THEY OWN MANNING.

THEY BARELY WON THE LAST MEETING! SO WHAT??? AS I SAID, IT IS DIFFERENT STORY IN THE COLD AND SNOW.

HA! HA! I'M LIVING IN THE PAST AND REVELING IN THE MOMENT!!!! i POSTED THE FACTS, THE TRENDS, THE ONES THAT COULD BE NOT OVERCOME. THOSE THAT CHOSE TO IGNORE THEM WERE FOOLS! HOW MANY TIMES DOES NEW ENGLAND HAVE TO BEAT INDIANAPOLIS BEFORE YOU GET THE PICTURE? 10? 20? 100?

NO EXCUSES, IT WAS TOTAL DOMINATION!!!!!!!

Posted in all caps just to annoy the Colts fans and the fools that believed in Manning and the Colts and underestimed the Patriots.

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Sente]

[crazymage]

please post in the true new england thread, not any thread started by poor dillusioned indy fans.

[Scott]

Originally posted by Xyelin
COLTS VS MINN superbowl !!

Philly sucks, ATL overated and vick is the most overated player in the league.

The only thing you had right was Vick being the most overated player in the league.

[crazymage]

no hes wrong again i believe that person just lost to the patriots!

[Hulkein]

Hahaha, hey Xyelin, don't quit your day job to become an NFL analyst.

Poor Colts =(

[Makkah]

ROFL the colts...


rht

[Hulkein]

It's funny more people don't realize defense almost always wins in the playoffs.

The Colts offense could've been an exception just because they were that good, but it was too much.

The Vikes have Culpepper and Moss..... great, their D sucks and they were playing the best defense in the NFC.

I like to call it ESPN hype. People only watch highlights of these big plays throughout the season.

[ThisOtherKingdom]

Originally posted by Hulkein
The Vikes have Culpepper and Moss..... great, their D sucks and they were playing the best defense in the NFC.

#1) Washington
#2) Tampa Bay
#3) Philadelphia

That would make them the third best defense in the NFC. But don't bother letting stats get in the way of being a homer.

[Ilvane]

:loveu:

Yay for Brady and the Pats!

-A

[Anebriated]

TOK, those numbers are based on yards allowed per game. That tells you very little about the defense itself. The Eagles do give up alot of yards per game but look at a column that matters such as points allowed per game and youll find the eagles to be number 2 in the entire NFL.

The list:
#1 Pittsburg - 15.7
#2 New England - 16.2
#2 Philadelphia - 16.2

sure, what the newspapers and ESPN use for their rankings is important to those who watch occasionally on the weekends but those numbers mean jack shit when your team is allowing the second fewest points in the league.


I think the Eagles are really going to show it[rust] early on, which is just what the Vikings will need to get a lead. That will force the Eagles to throw the ball.. and without any capable recievers.. bye bye birdies.


reciever catches yds tds
F. Mitchell 5 65 1
G. Lewis 2 64 0
L. Smith 4 52 0
B. Westbrook 5 47 1
T. Pinkston 3 46 0

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Elrodin]

[AnticorRifling]

Originally posted by Sente
Something dumb

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Sente]

Remember when my team could only when when the weather conditions were just right?

Me either.

STFU

[Sean]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling

Originally posted by Sente
Something dumb

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Sente]

Remember when my team could only when when the weather conditions were just right?

Me either.

STFU

I remeber when you used to make sense.

[Parkbandit]

God...

Eagles looked good.
Falcons looked good.
Steelers looked lucky.
Patriots looked unbelievable.

I was 1-3 in my playoff predictions... and that makes me sad.

[Hulkein]

Originally posted by ThisOtherKingdom
#1) Washington
#2) Tampa Bay
#3) Philadelphia

That would make them the third best defense in the NFC. But don't bother letting stats get in the way of being a homer.

That is by yardage.

Last I checked games are decided by points, not yards.

The Eagles were FIRST in points allowed. That is what matters, chief.

Best D in the NFC

#1 Philadelphia - 16.2 pts against a game.
#2 Washington - 16.6
#3 Tampa Bay - 19

And that is with their entire second string playing the final two games of the year.

[Edited on 1-17-2005 by Hulkein]

[Parkbandit]

Both systems are flawed. The best system I have seen is on NFL.com called the "Aikman" rating system. I doubt he came up with it.. but because he is a regular contributor to the site.. he was given the name.


"The Aikman Efficiency Ratings measure offensive and defensive performance using a combination of seven key statistics identified by Troy Aikman, and then measured against league norms (and extremes) established over the last 10 years. An offense or defense performing exactly at league norms in all categories will achieve a score of 75."


Aikman Defensive Efficiency Ratings

Aikman NFL Team AER
1 2 Redskins 83.8
2 7 Ravens 83.7
3 3 Bills 83.4
4 9 Patriots 82.8
5 1 Steelers 81.5
6 10 Eagles 80.5
7 17 Bears 79.6
8 6 Jets 79.6
9 5 Buccaneers 78.6
10 4 Broncos 78.5
11 12 Jaguars 77.2
12 8 Dolphins 77.1
13 14 Chargers 76.1
14 13 Cardinals 75.5
15 18 Panthers 74.7
16 28 Colts 74.6
17 15 Falcons 74.1
18 19 Bengals 73.5
19 23 Lions 71.1
20 25 Seahawks 71.0
21 16 Browns 70.8
22 24 Texans 70.7
23 32 Saints 68.1
24 26 Titans 67.4
25 20 Rams 66.5
26 11 Giants 66.5
27 21 Cowboys 64.9
28 27 Packers 64.4
29 22 49ers 64.1
30 29 Vikings 63.3
31 30 Chiefs 61.7
32 31 Raiders 56.0
NFL Average 73.1

[crazymage]

so by your rating the top 3 teams didnt make the playoffs? er i'll stick with nfls.

[Scott]

Originally posted by crazymage
so by your rating the top 3 teams didnt make the playoffs? er i'll stick with nfls.

That's defense... not the best teams.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by crazymage
so by your rating the top 3 teams didnt make the playoffs? er i'll stick with nfls.

Best defensive teams does not equal "top" teams. You also have to factor in offense and special teams.

Dumbass.