SNES Classic Announced

[Fallen]

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It looks like the SNES Classic Edition will be priced at $80, probably because it includes two SNES controllers, where as the NES Classic Edition came with just one, which always felt kind of cheap on Nintendo’s part. We’ve also now got a complete games list for the tiny 16-bit console and the lineup looks pretty solid. Nintendo’s even included the never-before-released Star Fox 2 which has only been available to play through downloads and emulation until now.






Contra III: The Alien Wars

Donkey Kong Country

EarthBound

Final Fantasy III

F-ZERO

Kirby Super Star
Kirby’s Dream Course

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

Mega Man X
Secret of Mana

Star Fox

Star Fox 2
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Super Castlevania IV

Super Ghouls ‘n Ghosts

Super Mario Kart

Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

Super Mario World

Super Metroid

Super Punch-Out!!
Yoshi’s Island



http://gizmodo.com/the-super-nintendo-classic-edition-arrives-with-21-game-1796419063

[Fallen]

Didn't pick up the NES Classic, but knew quite a few who did. Isn't my cup of tea, but I imagine scalpers will have a field day all the same.

[0zymandius]

Nostalgia... all us old gamers like to reminisce and play the old, horrible games that we loved so much. Which explains this forum, actually.

That said, I might actually buy this... if I can be one of the lucky 40 people to get their hands on one at midnight when they're released.

[chalion]

Surely they learned their lesson from the NES classic, right?




Right?

[Gelston]

Surely they learned their lesson from the NES classic, right?




Right?

Their lesson? They create artificial shortages on purpose. If everyone could get one immediately they'd sell less.

[Tgo01]

20+1 games pre-installed is a weird way of saying 21 games pre-installed.

[Mogonis]

Nostalgia... all us old gamers like to reminisce and play the old, horrible games that we loved so much.
Horrible?

I probably still have all my emulator stuff somewhere, but would be fun to have this in the living room. Some good RPGs, plus Mario Kart.

[0zymandius]

Horrible?

I probably still have all my emulator stuff somewhere, but would be fun to have this in the living room. Some good RPGs, plus Mario Kart.

Hey, I'm the one who tries three or four times a year to find a working emulator to play Alternate Reality The Dungeon. They went and RELEASED it for iOS a little while back, but no Android port.

[SashaFierce]

I have an emulator with 1000 or 2000 games.

I also still have my original with the games I enjoyed the most.

The game list isn't bad, but... no chrono trigger? Come on! That's the best game ever made.


They should have checked ebay for prices of some of the old games and tossed the expensive ones on there. The Mega Man X-2/X-3 can go for $100+ each

[Ltlprprincess]

I got the NES classic on one of the release days. I had with rewards with TRY that I got it for free. Despite getting the wireless controllers for it, I have yet to play it. I still fully intend to get the SNES classic when it comes out, though.

[chalion]

Their lesson? They create artificial shortages on purpose. If everyone could get one immediately they'd sell less.

So you are saying that Nintendo created an artificial shortage to drive up secondary reselling prices and that they were the secondary resellers and took advantage of that fact?
Because the alternative is "Nintendo had a cash cow and stopped making units because... they dont like money??"

[Astray]

So you are saying that Nintendo created an artificial shortage to drive up secondary reselling prices and that they were the secondary resellers and took advantage of that fact?

Is this sarcasm? It's so hard to tell sometimes.

[chalion]

Is this sarcasm? It's so hard to tell sometimes.

100%

Nintendo either had a license to print money from nostalgia with the NES classic and just stopped for no apparent good reason or they fucked up on the manufacturing costs and weren't turning a profit per unit created. Creating artificial scarcity only helps you if you later benefit from that scarcity by increasing the price on the replacement of the first or ramping up production to meet the demand later on, while still keeping that feverish demand for the product. Just not producing any more doesn't make the company any money and leaves people pissed off that they can't get the product.

[Gelston]

So you are saying that Nintendo created an artificial shortage to drive up secondary reselling prices and that they were the secondary resellers and took advantage of that fact?
Because the alternative is "Nintendo had a cash cow and stopped making units because... they dont like money??"

No, they don't give a fuck about the secondary market, they do know we love instant gratification and the feeling of exclusivity. Every game company does this with EVERY console since forever. Release small amounts so the hype stays up, they get sold out quick, then release another small batch and continue. People are stupid when they think there might not be anymore, so they go and buy when they may not have ever bought one at all. Nintendo doesn't care if you're buying 5 for yourself or to resale, they just know they sold 5 units. This is a marketing tactic that is proven time and time again.

Watch, they'll start this shit up again after the cut the SNES Classic. Nintendo knows exactly what they are doing.

[Fallen]

No, they don't give a fuck about the secondary market, they do know we love instant gratification and the feeling of exclusivity. Every game company does this with EVERY console since forever. Release small amounts so the hype stays up, they get sold out quick, then release another small batch and continue. People are stupid when they think there might not be anymore, so they go and buy when they may not have ever bought one at all. Nintendo doesn't care if you're buying 5 for yourself or to resale, they just know they sold 5 units. This is a marketing tactic that is proven time and time again.

Watch, they'll start this shit up again after the cut the SNES Classic. Nintendo knows exactly what they are doing.

Looks like you're pretty much right.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/26/nintendo-will-produce-significantly-more-snes-classic-editions-than-nes-classic

They're going to make more units than the NES Classic, but they are still finite. Meaning if enough are hoarded for resale, they'll still be hard to get at a reasonable price.

[Wyrom]

FOMO (scarcity) is a very powerful marketing tactic. Not really sure what the driving force to buying these are though. Anyone serious enough to play older games can just use an emulator or buy the games in one of the many Nintendo handhelds/consoles through their store.

SEGA Forever is doing it right.

[Gelston]

FOMO (scarcity) is a very powerful marketing tactic. Not really sure what the driving force to buying these are though. Anyone serious enough to play older games can just use an emulator or buy the games in one of the many Nintendo handhelds/consoles through their store.

SEGA Forever is doing it right.

Because people like lumps of plastic to sit in their homes.

[Taernath]

I'm sure the one that's been sitting in my various garages and attics for the past 20 years still works.

[ArchSenex]

I've seen plenty of cases where artificial scarcity is used to drum up interest (Every black friday sale, ever, most apple products, diamonds, etc.) What you don't see much is a scarcity that isn't exploited fully (Nintendo cutting off without making more with obvious demand).

I'm wondering if the reason is something stupid... like retooling the factory too soon and it would have been significantly more expensive to make more of them.

[Kembal]

FOMO (scarcity) is a very powerful marketing tactic. Not really sure what the driving force to buying these are though. Anyone serious enough to play older games can just use an emulator or buy the games in one of the many Nintendo handhelds/consoles through their store.

SEGA Forever is doing it right.

I think it's for people like me who loved these games, aren't planning to buy a Switch (my last system is a Wii), and aren't willing to monkey around with an emulator. I suspect that's a lot of people.

Shocked that Chrono Trigger isn't on the list though. Easily one of the best RPGs I've ever played. (hooray for Earthbound though - was irritated it was never released for Wii)

[Kembal]

20+1 games pre-installed is a weird way of saying 21 games pre-installed.

I think the +1 refers to Star Fox 2, since it was never released previously.

[Wyrom]

I think it's for people like me who loved these games, aren't planning to buy a Switch (my last system is a Wii), and aren't willing to monkey around with an emulator. I suspect that's a lot of people.

Shocked that Chrono Trigger isn't on the list though. Easily one of the best RPGs I've ever played. (hooray for Earthbound though - was irritated it was never released for Wii)

Odd that they are calling it FFVI by it's old numbered title, since the naming convention has been updated for a long time now. That game is one of the best SNES titles in my opinion. Followed by Chrono Trigger and FFIV (II).

I have the SNES emulator on my phone with a controller, so I have around 80 RPGs I play from time to time that way.

[ArchSenex]

Odd that they are calling it FFVI by it's old numbered title, since the naming convention has been updated for a long time now. That game is one of the best SNES titles in my opinion. Followed by Chrono Trigger and FFIV (II).

I have the SNES emulator on my phone with a controller, so I have around 80 RPGs I play from time to time that way.

When in doubt, BLAME THE LAWYERS

That data released as FFIII is likely legally distinct from the same game released as FFVI in the states, thus requiring a new round of approvals, while Nintendo was already approved to release it as FFIII.

Just a guess, but it's either that or something equally silly. Plus, nostalgia says to call it like it was.

[Wyrom]

When in doubt, BLAME THE LAWYERS

That data released as FFIII is likely legally distinct from the same game released as FFVI in the states, thus requiring a new round of approvals, while Nintendo was already approved to release it as FFIII.

Just a guess, but it's either that or something equally silly. Plus, nostalgia says to call it like it was.

Yeah, I'm sure it's more about the marketing tactics.

I'm betting these will be selling for $150+ soon after everyone is sold out.

[Tenlaar]

Seeing that list of games just makes me wonder why they don't make multiple version of these, for different game types. I would absolutely try to buy one that was all RPG oriented, going down the list the only games that I wasn't "meh" about playing again were the RPGs. I'm sure others would prefer one that was loaded all with the Contra or Kirby style action games.

[chalion]

No, they don't give a fuck about the secondary market, they do know we love instant gratification and the feeling of exclusivity. Every game company does this with EVERY console since forever. Release small amounts so the hype stays up, they get sold out quick, then release another small batch and continue. People are stupid when they think there might not be anymore, so they go and buy when they may not have ever bought one at all. Nintendo doesn't care if you're buying 5 for yourself or to resale, they just know they sold 5 units. This is a marketing tactic that is proven time and time again.

Watch, they'll start this shit up again after the cut the SNES Classic. Nintendo knows exactly what they are doing.

I think thats a little too conspiratorial. The underlying tactic is sound, but letting a market cool off for a product for a year plus is very dangerous. Established businesses will generally go for a bird in the hand over the two in the bush. Not to mention what that costs in renegotiating manufacturing agreements and starting up production again. You would either have to pre negotiate a factory fitting itself to manufacture the product and then stop for some time, hopefully filling other contracts during that non production time and then refitting itself to either make the same product or a slightly upgraded version. During that time any possible changes will cause increased overhead in costs.

The first units sold out by sheer demand, people didn't go in expecting the unit to be limited. Instead, Nintendo turned around and said "oops we didnt make enough and uh oh yeah we aren't making anymore." It has come out that Nintendo is now possibly playing that game with the SNES classic , saying they can't guarentee any units will be produced/shipped in 2018. That's either a play on the scarcity effect or a rare case of honest advertising.

The amount of forward thinking and planning that would have to go into stopping and starting production like that is far too comically evil corporation tactic. Look back at how many "Christmas toy of the year" products couldnt meet demand while hot and then never regained their momentum when they finally did ship product.

[Gelston]

I think thats a little too conspiratorial. The underlying tactic is sound, but letting a market cool off for a product for a year plus is very dangerous. Established businesses will generally go for a bird in the hand over the two in the bush. Not to mention what that costs in renegotiating manufacturing agreements and starting up production again. You would either have to pre negotiate a factory fitting itself to manufacture the product and then stop for some time, hopefully filling other contracts during that non production time and then refitting itself to either make the same product or a slightly upgraded version. During that time any possible changes will cause increased overhead in costs.

The first units sold out by sheer demand, people didn't go in expecting the unit to be limited. Instead, Nintendo turned around and said "oops we didnt make enough and uh oh yeah we aren't making anymore." It has come out that Nintendo is now possibly playing that game with the SNES classic , saying they can't guarentee any units will be produced/shipped in 2018. That's either a play on the scarcity effect or a rare case of honest advertising.

The amount of forward thinking and planning that would have to go into stopping and starting production like that is far too comically evil corporation tactic. Look back at how many "Christmas toy of the year" products couldnt meet demand while hot and then never regained their momentum when they finally did ship product.

The NES market was cooled off for like 25 years, I think they're safe.

[Jhynnifer]

My fiance collects NES and SNES games so whenever we get nostalgic we just whip that badboy out and play. I did buy him an NES classic though, for giggles.

That being said, with the way the Switch release went down it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo severely underestimates the fanbase for this.

[Mogonis]

we just whip that badboy out and play.
Fuck, where's Tisket to appreciate this with me?

[Taernath]

The amount of forward thinking and planning that would have to go into stopping and starting production like that is far too comically evil corporation tactic. Look back at how many "Christmas toy of the year" products couldnt meet demand while hot and then never regained their momentum when they finally did ship product.

Nintendo is just consistently terrible at predicting western market demand.

[SonoftheNorth]

Why does it have 5 games

[SHAFT]

Horrible?

I probably still have all my emulator stuff somewhere, but would be fun to have this in the living room. Some good RPGs, plus Mario Kart.

A lot of people have these games on Wii, as well.

[Mogonis]

The Wii is the windows Vista of game consoles.

[Ltlprprincess]

The WiiU is the windows Vista of game consoles.

Fixed

[Mogonis]

Then the Wii is Windows ME.

[hello]

It's all gone... would've been cool if they would've made it compatible with a smartphone, for the screen.

[Wyrom]

It's all gone... would've been cool if they would've made it compatible with a smartphone, for the screen.

This is the SEGA Forever approach, which I think would have been smarter. Free games, $1.99 if you want to remove the ads.

[Gelston]

This is the SEGA Forever approach, which I think would have been smarter. Free games, $1.99 if you want to remove the ads.

Why do you keep validating Hellos existance?

[chalion]

Everyone needs a foil.

[Wyrom]

Why do you keep validating Hellos existance?

I just need to plug SEGA Forever. I had all consoles in the 90s, and I probably enjoyed my SNES far more than my Genesis or Master System, though SEGA CD was one of my all time favorite console. The original Lunar/Lunar 2 and Vay? Man, I miss games like that.

[drauz]

I just need to plug SEGA Forever. I had all consoles in the 90s, and I probably enjoyed my SNES far more than my Genesis or Master System, though SEGA CD was one of my all time favorite console. The original Lunar/Lunar 2 and Vay? Man, I miss games like that.

N64, so many pot filled nights with 4 player Perfect Dark/ Goldeneye.

[Gelston]

I just need to plug SEGA Forever. I had all consoles in the 90s, and I probably enjoyed my SNES far more than my Genesis or Master System, though SEGA CD was one of my all time favorite console. The original Lunar/Lunar 2 and Vay? Man, I miss games like that.

I was a big Sega guy back in the day. I love my Master System, my Genesis, I had the Saturn too, got in on release. That system is when I started hating Sega. Got it on release.. $300. This was in the 90's too when $300 was worth a lot more. They abandoned that crap. Never got a Dreamcast but they basically did that there too.

[Fortybox]

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http://gizmodo.com/the-super-nintendo-classic-edition-arrives-with-21-game-1796419063

Awesome. Can't wait to never get one of these ever.

[beldannon5]

I really liked the snes back in the day. However at my age and the time I spend in this dumb er fun game I don't have time

[Gelston]

When is Simu going to release a retro PC to play GS, DR, and CyberStrike2 on?

[Tgo01]

When is Simu going to release a retro PC to play GS, DR, and CyberStrike2 on?

Make sure the hard drive is small enough where you have to make sure your logs aren't filling up said hard drive.