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[beldannon5]

So first off they loosen then they restrict. It's fine but they seem to go a little overboard on stuff. I was having a discussion with some bitter idiot. There was a little sarcasm but no real evil or anything and it was on topic and they hid parts of thread. I get having moderaters and not letting it get out of hand, but we aren't in kindergarten.

Also anyone else think skelen is someone like the principal from the breakfast club or the teacher that closes and locks the door the second the bell rings.

:)

I don't have many issues on the forums so it's not life changing or breaking or anything

[SashaFierce]

You were insulting each other, which isn't allowed... you bastard!

[beldannon5]

:) lol Hey i even said i begged his forgivness and said i would ask him from now on for any future decisions in game or real life. :(

[Mogonis]

IT'S A FAMILY GAME WITH NO ONE YOUNGER THAN 20 GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

[Gelston]

If the officials were great, the PC wouldn't exist.

[Wyrom]

Just so you're aware, everyone else deleted their own posts. So your posts were removed as you were no longer were responding to anyone that would understand. So the ending of that thread was just hidden.

As for the forum policy, the rules are still a bit loosened, but we paint a clear picture of why a post will be pulled now, and what it will hit you with. Instead of it being a guessing game.

[Wyrom]

If the officials were great, the PC wouldn't exist.

Well maybe originally. But the PC still has it's features that even other gaming forums would need to separate from.

[Gelston]

Well maybe originally. But the PC still has it's features that even other gaming forums would need to separate from.

Lies, there is a politics forum on the Officials.

[Astray]

My only complaint with official forums is they are ancient and obnoxious to navigate.

[Tisket]

My only complaint with official forums is they are ancient and obnoxious to navigate.

This times 1000.

[Astray]

This times 1000.

I don't want to keep a word document of quick find codes.

[Allereli]

My only complaint with official forums is they are ancient and obnoxious to navigate.

if you're unaware, I set up the wiki to navigate the officials via links at the bottom of pages.

Example: https://gswiki.play.net/Sorcerer#Officials_Folders

On event pages they usually appear near the top:

https://gswiki.play.net/Return_to_Delirium_Manor

Spells will be linked from the spell circle page:

https://gswiki.play.net/Minor_Spiritual

[Astray]

if you're unaware, I set up the wiki to navigate the officials via links at the bottom of pages.

Example: https://gswiki.play.net/Sorcerer#Officials_Folders

On event pages they usually appear near the top:

https://gswiki.play.net/Return_to_Delirium_Manor

Spells will be linked from the spell circle page:

https://gswiki.play.net/Minor_Spiritual

If you're unaware, the fact that this needs to be done at all is indicative of a problem.

[Allereli]

If you're unaware, the fact that this needs to be done at all is indicative of a problem.

the boards are not going to be fixed, nor can I fix them. This is the solution that I use to navigate the officials.

[Astray]

the boards are not going to be fixed, nor can I fix them. This is the solution that I use to navigate the officials.

Oh right, tied to billing hurr durr. Guess Simu gonna Simu. Fuckin' a.

[Mogonis]

If the officials were great, the PC wouldn't exist.
Not exactly. Even if they used vBulletin, they would still have to moderate language and stuff. They also wouldn't support silver sales and stuff. We would still need the PC.

[Methais]

Usually if Sleken shuts down a thread or whatever it's because shit was getting out of hand.

Aulis on the other hand is the worst mod since Emeradan.

[Gelston]

Not exactly. Even if they used vBulletin, they would still have to moderate language and stuff. They also wouldn't support silver sales and stuff. We would still need the PC.

So then like, the Officials would still not be great if they did all that stuff.

[Mogonis]

So then like, the Officials would still not be great if they did all that stuff.
Right. Being great would mean using forum software that isn't infuriating for users. Simu would never give us the freedom we have here.

[Gelston]

Right. Being great would mean using forum software that isn't infuriating for users. Simu would never give us the freedom we have here.

No, that would just be average. :(

[bunnymustdie]

Also anyone else think skelen is someone like the principal from the breakfast club or the teacher that closes and locks the door the second the bell rings.




Dunno about skelen or the mods, but some of the regulars there just very much have a "special ed" kind of vibe, if we're gonna go by your school analogy. Hanging out there for a while makes hello seem playful and charming by comparison.

[Wyrom]

My only complaint with official forums is they are ancient and obnoxious to navigate.

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

[SonoftheNorth]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

When you login to reply to something and it's just every post in that topic in line, and sometimes I'll post something and the entire topic disappears (maybe from no new posts?) until I log out then log back in.

[Gelston]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

It doesn't have a "New Posts" tab, it doesn't have PMs, threaded view was a nice change, but the thing just feels so archaic. I'll tell you that I never click a sub-forum here ever, unless it is to create a new post. I read things based off the New Posts feed. Some folks love the activity feed. I mean, there is a LOT that can be improved. The styling is just... A turn off.

[SonoftheNorth]

When you login to reply to something and it's just every post in that topic in line

Nevermind I didn't know threaded view was a thing. That is awesome thank you.

[Mogonis]

Lots of issues with the forum. I get the connection to the billing system thing, but I do not care for account names being usernames.

[SonoftheNorth]

do not care for account names being usernames.

Yeah could you make it so you can pick a username, but GM's can still see your account or whatever. Seems like a security risk.

[Wyrom]

It doesn't have a "New Posts" tab, it doesn't have PMs, threaded view was a nice change, but the thing just feels so archaic. I'll tell you that I never click a sub-forum here ever, unless it is to create a new post. I read things based off the New Posts feed. Some folks love the activity feed. I mean, there is a LOT that can be improved. The styling is just... A turn off.

There is a new posts link at the top. PMs were overruled by email at the time. Plus, moderating PMs is a nightmare. I've talked to some of the guys who run bigger official forums.

[Gelston]

There is a new posts link at the top. PMs were overruled by email at the time. Plus, moderating PMs is a nightmare. I've talked to some of the guys who run bigger official forums.

You know what, I've never noticed that. Still falls under me hating the entire style of it.

I'd say my biggest hatred then, of the officials, is that it just looks so oooold.. Which is odd to say since it is for a text based game, but yeah.

As far as PMs... Why would you moderate them? Just give people the option to turn them off or on, with turning them on having an acknowledgement like shattered has.

[Ososis]

I can't get past page 1 on anything. Everything redirects me to page 1. That's when I stopped going to the officials.

[Gelston]

Can you make it so the "Show New Threads, All Categories and Topics" thing is on every page?

[ArchSenex]

Dunno about skelen or the mods, but some of the regulars there just very much have a "special ed" kind of vibe, if we're gonna go by your school analogy. Hanging out there for a while makes hello seem playful and charming by comparison.

Yeah, there's plenty of people on the Regular forums that are just as bad as anybody here... they just don't use naughty language. They're just as egotistical and self-centered though.

And I swear, can we just add the word "devalue" to a profanity filter or something? It's just disheartening the number of people who think that somebody else getting something reduces them. I can't think of the number of cool features that have probably not happened for fear of a small, deeply entrenched group of people complaining that their fun is devalued if anybody else is having fun.

[SonoftheNorth]

And I swear, can we just add the word "devalue" to a profanity filter or something? It's just disheartening the number of people who think that somebody else getting something reduces them. I can't think of the number of cool features that have probably not happened for fear of a small, deeply entrenched group of people complaining that their fun is devalued if anybody else is having fun.


So fleurs.

[Tgo01]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

The officials don't have me, that's like wearing a -6 to sexterity vest right there.

[Gelston]

The officials don't have me, that's like wearing a -6 to sexterity vest right there.

Go away, adults are talking.

[Tgo01]

Go away, adults are talking.

Rapist.

[Gelston]

Rapist.

Democrat.

[Tgo01]

Democrat.

YOU FUCKING TAKE THAT BACK!!!

[chalion]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

Threaded view is a joke. You can see more threads by LOGGING OUT then you can by being logged in. Once it falls off the top 10 (or 20 if you log out!) you can never find a thread in threaded view. If you go by posts numbers its just a mixed up jumble of post after post and you have to connect the dots with the post title at the top. In no way shape or form is it even close to Vbulliten or any other modern forums software.

I can't imagine any reason other than $$$ that you dont just offer integration with a third party forum software and keep the old in the background for whatever billing reasons. You clearly can connect third party services with your internal accounts because its happening with the wiki.

[Astray]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

I shouldn't need a word doc full of 'quick find' codes or whatever they are to find a specific topic? Oh and if you want to browse topics you need to roll back the clock and pray to God that the formatting doesn't shit directly in your mouth. It's been ages, granted, but I still have Vietnam-esque flashbacks of attempting to navigate topics.

Which... is why... you have moderators? Oh, mods that don't silence people they disagree with, not ones that just do it for shits and giggles.

Gr8 b8 is gr8 m8.

[ArchSenex]

So fleurs.

There's far more than just one.

[bunnymustdie]

I can't get past page 1 on anything. Everything redirects me to page 1. That's when I stopped going to the officials.

And then there's that one guy who keeps posting ideas and suggestions, most of which are just dumb. He posts them everyday. Multiple times a day. Across different forums. So that the relevant thread you do want to read or reference in the future are slowly being slid off of page one.

[leifastagsweed]

The forums are ATROCIOUS and I feel like I miss out on so much information because it's too hard to find. I can't imagine what that means to people who care less about Gemstone.

Pretty much everything that's already been said a million times, EXCEPT the argument that we still need PC. Hello, it's 2017, can we not do better than THIS?

[Astray]

Pretty much everything that's already been said a million times, EXCEPT the argument that we still need PC. Hello, it's 2017, can we not do better than THIS?
Are you proposing hookers and blackjack? If so, I agree.

[hello]

Is there even a point of arguing about the officials? Wyrom responds and posts here, all news gets posted here. It really doesn't make sense pumping $$ or time etc. when the de facto official forum is here.

[Ososis]

Are you proposing hookers and blackjack? If so, I agree.

For real, revamp the forums. Add some flash blackjack connected to silver banks, and give paid webcams to tisket. she seems like she has a good Madam mentality.

Boom, and there's your silver sink. Two birds, one imaginary rock.

[Axhinde]

I'll take the bait. Other than a search function, what makes them obnoxious to navigate? You can still read all new posts there. You can still go into a topic like you do here. You can switch to threaded view (instead of legacy) and follow posts easily.

They're old and need new features, no one is going to disagree with you, but the reason it's tied to billing is your account subscription is required to be active to post. Unlike the PC and other game forums, we don't really want to deal with troll accounts.

Still no idea why there's so many of those "bugged" posts that never disappear and keep threads open. And no, I will not have a cute "squish" post. I'd rather just be annoyed.

Also, formatting and quoting could use some support though I am not sure the officials even can use things like BBC code or anything else.

[Wyrom]

It does. You can read all new everywhere, or all new just a topic. It's actually better than these forums for me, since I need to read certain areas daily. New Posts here expires and shows me everything, including the politics threads.

[Tgo01]

including the politics threads.

You got a problem with that?

[Wyrom]

Still no idea why there's so many of those "bugged" posts that never disappear and keep threads open. And no, I will not have a cute "squish" post. I'd rather just be annoyed.

Also, formatting and quoting could use some support though I am not sure the officials even can use things like BBC code or anything else.

Marking as read kills them for me. I've never seen a post ever persist beyond that in the 20 years we've been on the web. I see the complaints, but I strongly feel it's user error.

[SashaFierce]

Marking as read kills them for me. I've never seen a post ever persist beyond that in the 20 years we've been on the web. I see the complaints, but I strongly feel it's user error.

It usually happens with new topics, marking as read doesn't always kill them for me. Sometimes they take several days to go away.

[Wyrom]

You got a problem with that?

Yes, I do. I also have a problem with it on Facebook. But that's only because people that don't even have an understanding of what they are talking about rant and rave. Not everyone, but when it comes to social media, it makes my head hurt.

[Tgo01]

But that's only because people that don't even have an understanding of what they are talking about rant and rave.

It's okay, we're all adults here, you can name names. It's Gelston, isn't it?

[Wyrom]

It's okay, we're all adults here, you can name names. It's Gelston, isn't it?

It's actually not as bad here, because most of you educate yourself. It was bad back in like...2005.

[ArchSenex]

i beleive the zombie threads happen when the most recent post has been deleted or the person is on your ignore list. the system has no way to flag it read for you. mark all read fixes it for me too.

[Gelston]

It's okay, we're all adults here, you can name names. It's Gelston, isn't it?

[Private]-GSIV:Dreaven: "Stupid disk always following me. Makes cyber weird."

[Tgo01]

[Private]-GSIV:Dreaven: "Stupid disk always following me. Makes cyber weird."

:O

[Gelston]

It's actually not as bad here, because most of you educate yourself. It was bad back in like...2005.

What year did you become a GM?

[Axhinde]

Marking as read kills them for me. I've never seen a post ever persist beyond that in the 20 years we've been on the web. I see the complaints, but I strongly feel it's user error.

I disagree with user error. The user reads the thread then goes to a different one. The bug happens with no user input. Marking as read may indeed work, but in the 20 years we've been on the web it still is a persistent thorn in the side.

[Axhinde]

Yes, I do. I also have a problem with it on Facebook. But that's only because people that don't even have an understanding of what they are talking about rant and rave. Not everyone, but when it comes to social media, it makes my head hurt.

Fake news!!

[Latrinsorm]

I don't want to keep a word document of quick find codes.use a txt document

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[Wyrom]

i beleive the zombie threads happen when the most recent post has been deleted or the person is on your ignore list. the system has no way to flag it read for you. mark all read fixes it for me too.

Ignore might be the culprit. I've only ignored one person ever in the all my years as a player. I've not ignored anyone as staff.


What year did you become a GM?

Host in 2007, GM in 2010.


I disagree with user error. The user reads the thread then goes to a different one. The bug happens with no user input. Marking as read may indeed work, but in the 20 years we've been on the web it still is a persistent thorn in the side.

Do you have anyone on ignore that might be the case? Curious if this is the bug.

[chalion]

man I had fleurs on ignore but then like 20 threads died with them posting the last reply, so my "show new ony" was just a list of threads I couldnt make go away unless someone else wanted to post. A good forums software. The user error was trying to use the forums software in the first place.

[ArchSenex]

i had nobody on ignore, and got it sometimes, mostly when the most recent post was deleted. i recently put... somebody who posts a lot... on ignore, and it started happening a lot more.

[Leafiara]

I had to go into my options and set threads per page and threaded posts per page to 100000 because of some of the problems people bring up. It's still not enough to make reading the officials not a royal pain, though. I really only go to the officials because:

1) I love Kenstrom's stories and so many of the participants only comment on the officials
2) GMs don't read suggestions made on the PC, at least as far as I know, so almost all of the interesting dev discussion is there since people wouldn't want to waste time putting it here
3) I'm bored at the office and want to read something


2 is the big one for me... I'm guessing some good ideas are lost to the ages because not everyone is willing to deal with the officials.

[Khariz]

AS long as you read every new post, every day, the officials aren't that frustrating (just put forums you aren't interested in on ignore once, and read the ones you care about).

[Axhinde]

Do you have anyone on ignore that might be the case? Curious if this is the bug.

Only Methais, Triplegame226. I literally have no idea why. I don't even remember putting him on ignore as I've never had a problem with him here or the officials. I'm removing the ignore and seeing what happens.

Edit: That wasn't the culprit. Remove Methais from my ignore list and the threads with bugs still pop up as unread. When I click the thread name, I get...

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Last message you've read in this topic is number 3019.

In order to read the post, I have to view the entire last page. Can't even jump to the post number. The example used was the in Platinum forums, General Discussions, General Questions & Comments.

2nd edit: When I go to Options and set the Default View Format to Threaded, the bugs go away.

[Astray]

use a txt document

I will literally tear your nipples off.

[Methais]

Only Methais, Triplegame226. I literally have no idea why. I don't even remember putting him on ignore as I've never had a problem with him here or the officials. I'm removing the ignore and seeing what happens.

Edit: That wasn't the culprit. Remove Methais from my ignore list and the threads with bugs still pop up as unread. When I click the thread name, I get...

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View last page of this topic.
Last message you've read in this topic is number 3019.

In order to read the post, I have to view the entire last page. Can't even jump to the post number. The example used was the in Platinum forums, General Discussions, General Questions & Comments.

2nd edit: When I go to Options and set the Default View Format to Threaded, the bugs go away.

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