Capped Archer Mage

[Askip]

How viable is an archer mage at cap?

Since mages can only 1x Ranged, can they generate enough AS to hit capped critters?

Thanks!

:D

[ArchSenex]

Whirlin would probably have a strong opinion on this subject....

(The short answer is yes)

[Whirlin]

Viable. Fun. More viable if you invest more heavily in gear/enhancives. Not mutually exclusive to casting.

[Askip]

Viable. Fun. More viable if you invest more heavily in gear/enhancives. Not mutually exclusive to casting.

How about against greater constructs with a 4x bow and ebladed arrows?
I am slogging through getting 3x HP, and then looking for something else to train.

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 50 10
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 302 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 302 202
Spell Aiming.......................| 302 202
Harness Power......................| 351 251
Elemental Mana Control.............| 302 202
Spirit Mana Control................| 140 40
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 160 60
Elemental Lore - Earth.............| 105 25
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 150 50
Elemental Lore - Water.............| 145 45
Survival...........................| 201 101
Perception.........................| 302 202
Climbing...........................| 201 101
Swimming...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 302 202
Trading............................| 140 40

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 127

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 101

I am considering archery because of the inability to drag with constructs in the room, and I do not always have the 200 mana left to drop their magic barrier.

For now I carry a few charged crystal wands and I have a 1x major sanctuary item if need be, sometimes they will move off while the sanctuary is up.

:D

[Whirlin]

How about against greater constructs with a 4x bow and ebladed arrows?
I am slogging through getting 3x HP, and then looking for something else to train.
:D
Your Air Lore is a few ranks too low, but it looks like you have capacity to take it a little higher. I think it's 66 for longbow aimed in 1s.
Start enchanting a bow up to 7x now if you plan in training ranged.
Constructs are easy!

[Askip]

Thanks for the advice. It looks like you answered my next question too, which was what type of bow.

:D

[Velfi]

Thanks for the advice. It looks like you answered my next question too, which was what type of bow.

:D

Non-longbows are for suckers.

[Whirlin]

Was thinking about this when driving... depending on your STR and race, the Air Lore Requirement I quoted earlier may be much less. 66 is just when you only have +5 STR Bonus

[Askip]

Was thinking about this when driving... depending on your STR and race, the Air Lore Requirement I quoted earlier may be much less. 66 is just when you only have +5 STR Bonus

Dark Elf:
Gender: Male Age: 1021 Expr: 22571394 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Constitution (CON): 88 (14) ... 88 (14)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Intuition (INT): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Influence (INF): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)

I will test with my current skills but as you noted there is room for more lore.

Thanks again!

:D

[Askip]

You fire a wooden arrow at a water moccasin!
AS: +111 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +45 = +156
... and hit for 38 points of damage!
The water moccasin is stunned!

** As you hit, your arrow sucks away the air! **

... 15 points of damage!
Back strains under sudden decompression!
The water moccasin is sliced neatly in two.
The scintillating white light surrounding the arrow fades some.
Glancing shot. The wooden arrow flips over, landing behind a water moccasin.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

This is with 535 active, 1 rank ranged, aim left eye, 0x bow, ebladed arrow, not encumbered.

[Tenser]

506 is what will help with bow RT. Try again with Celerity active

[Whirlin]

Dark Elf:
Gender: Male Age: 1021 Expr: 22571394 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 84 (17) ... 84 (17)
Constitution (CON): 88 (14) ... 88 (14)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Agility (AGI): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (15) ... 100 (15)
Aura (AUR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Logic (LOG): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Intuition (INT): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Influence (INF): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)

I will test with my current skills but as you noted there is room for more lore.

Thanks again!

:D

Going off of memory. But 66 Ranks of Air is required when your STR bonus is 5 (since 509 brings that to a +20 effective bonus). Since you have +15 base, the RT would be 1 less (-1 RT per 10 STR Bonus). I think I remember longbows qstrike stamina cost increasing at 20 stamina per RT reduction, so the 66 req would be reduced down to 46. There's some other flat rate qstrike stamina cost reducers built into celerity, which is why the linear progression doesn't start at 0.

[Askip]

Live and learn, added 506:

You fire a wooden arrow at a fanged goblin!
AS: +111 vs DS: -3 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +94 = +239
... and hit for 80 points of damage!
Strike through eye, the fanged goblin is lobotomized!
The fanged goblin falls to the ground, kicks several times and dies.
The scintillating brown light surrounding the arrow fades some.
The wooden arrow sticks in a fanged goblin's left eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
Roundtime changed to 1 second.

Thank you both!

:D

[Whirlin]

Also, since you have >50 Ranks of Air lore, you should set 506 to Evoke rather than Incant, it'll auto-group cast at no additional mana cost. Bandit groups will love you.

[Askip]

Also, since you have >50 Ranks of Air lore, you should set 506 to Evoke rather than Incant, it'll auto-group cast at no additional mana cost. Bandit groups will love you.

INCANT will now use EVOKE for the Celerity spell.

You are the man, thanks!

:D

[ArchSenex]

Related question for Whirlin - Does the Evoke version count as self-cast for all targets (no cooldown)? I'm debating tweaking my wizard if so.

[Whirlin]

Related question for Whirlin - Does the Evoke version count as self-cast for all targets (no cooldown)? I'm debating tweaking my wizard if so.
No. Everyone else gets the cooldown. If you recast, it'll simply bypass them if they're still under the cooldown period. However, since you're recasting at least every minute, it'll more or less auto-apply as soon as their cooldown is up.

[Methais]

Was thinking about this when driving... depending on your STR and race, the Air Lore Requirement I quoted earlier may be much less. 66 is just when you only have +5 STR Bonus

Pretty sure air lore won't do anything for driving.

[Wrathbringer]

Pretty sure air lore won't do anything for driving.

You should see what air and water lores do for sharts.

[Methais]

You should see what air and water lores do for sharts.

You sound like you've never experienced the fire and earth version.

[Whirlin]

Pretty sure air lore won't do anything for driving.
You must be a Louisiana driver if you don't think while driving.

[Methais]

You must be a Louisiana driver if you don't think while driving.

I'm not the one who needs air lore just to drive!

And as bad as LA drivers are, MA drivers are still the worst.

[BriarFox]

I'm not the one who needs air lore just to drive!

And as bad as LA drivers are, MA drivers are still the worst.

MA drivers are assholes, but at least they generally pay attention to the road.

[Methais]

MA drivers are assholes, but at least they generally pay attention to the road.

They do. Eventually.

Needs more air lore.

[Askip]

Viable. Fun. More viable if you invest more heavily in gear/enhancives. Not mutually exclusive to casting.

Only 45 ranks ranged and killed my first destroyer.

Thanks for the heads up.

:D

[Orthin]

Your Air Lore is a few ranks too low, but it looks like you have capacity to take it a little higher. I think it's 66 for longbow aimed in 1s.
Start enchanting a bow up to 7x now if you plan in training ranged.
Constructs are easy!

Nothing to see here

[khorpulent]

You must be a Louisiana driver if you don't think while driving.

I read this as "drink while driving," and was very confused for a moment how one could expect a Louisianan to not drink while driving.

[khorpulent]

Oh and also, real wizards use polearms.