PDA

View Full Version : Armor accessories...



nocturnix
05-06-2017, 04:01 AM
I think i know the answer to this but wanted to double-check:

If i have an armor ASG that does not cover the head, and I buy a helm that has HCP on it, does that mean I now have HCP head coverage?

Was always a bit confusing to me how armor accessories work in conjunction with regular armor.

Thanks,

SonoftheNorth
05-06-2017, 04:08 AM
Yes but it basically becomes the higher up tier, so if you put a HCP helmet on reinforced leather, you have double leathers with HCP on the head.

nocturnix
05-06-2017, 04:19 AM
So if i'm wearing lets say: 0 crit padded augmented chain, and i wear a HCP helm, I will have HCP head coverage?

SonoftheNorth
05-06-2017, 04:22 AM
Yes you'll be in chain hauberk with HCP on the head.

nocturnix
05-06-2017, 04:26 AM
So my whole body will be chain hauberk, or just my head?

Ososis
05-06-2017, 04:26 AM
So if i'm wearing lets say: 0 crit padded augmented chain, and i wear a HCP helm, I will have HCP head coverage?

If you wear a HCP helm on ANY armor you will have HCP on the head (except if you already have damage padding on your head in which the HCP would be halved). In your example your head will be covered by "augmented chain" level of defense but you would have the penelties of chain hauberk (since you are in chain armor with your head covered.) and need 80 armor use ranks to negate the penalties.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 04:34 AM
So my whole body will be chain hauberk, or just my head?

Your whole body will be aug chain, with the penelties of Hauberk. It's a super confusing aspect, I hope I am explaining it well.

nocturnix
05-06-2017, 04:49 AM
That makes sense and also sucks really bad.

What do most pure bards do about their head coverage then? Without increasing their spell hindrance? It's quite the Achilles heal at the moment.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 04:57 AM
Of note, uncovered parts of an armor are NOT "naked", the uncovered parts are considered covered by the previous armor group.

Mechanically your torso and limbs are in Aug chain, your head is covered by brig.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 05:02 AM
The other option is to wear brig and the HCP helm. Maybe even find some padded greaves. adding accessories to already covered parts has no effect defensivly, they are basically a flare/padding/enhancive slot. Also I am fairly sure you would have better head protections in Brig+Helm than in Studded Leather+Helm. A small bit.

gilchristr
05-06-2017, 06:23 AM
A HCP greathelm is so pedestrian, get MCP. A MCP greathelm (which applies to head, neck and eyes) with brig is some good protection and the spell hindrance is about the same as augmented chain

gilchristr
05-06-2017, 06:30 AM
For best results if going for a crit padded helm route, you want to avoid your base armor having pretty much anythning from slots 3, 4, and 7 (refer to charts of clarity https://gswiki.play.net/Charts_of_clarity) to avoid having the greathelm padding halved.

That means the base armor can be fusion, voln, ithzir, enhancive, crit padded, high enchant, bunch of good choices.

hello
05-06-2017, 08:52 AM
The only reason why you would ever wear accessories is to get padding or flaring. You can wear accessories over full armors like hauberk or full plate (go figure) and get the full benefits of padding for those areas (arms, legs, head, eyes, neck).

Ososis
05-06-2017, 02:46 PM
The only reason why you would ever wear accessories is to get padding or flaring. You can wear accessories over full armors like hauberk or full plate (go figure) and get the full benefits of padding for those areas (arms, legs, head, eyes, neck).

You should refrain from giving advice if you don't understand what you are talking about.

hello
05-06-2017, 02:52 PM
You should refrain from giving advice if you don't understand what you are talking about.

You should refrain from making negative statements without actually explaining what you are talking about.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 03:02 PM
You should refrain from making negative statements without actually explaining what you are talking about.

You are a shit troll who doesn't understand basic game mechanics, nobody should listen to you about anything ever. I am not going to detail all the ways you are an idiot.

hello
05-06-2017, 03:05 PM
You are a shit troll who doesn't understand basic game mechanics, nobody should listen to you about anything ever. I am not going to detail all the ways you are an idiot.

Translation of above: I don't know.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 03:18 PM
Translation of above: I don't know.

Damn! You got me.

hello
05-06-2017, 03:26 PM
Damn! You got me.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wMY3LjQQMqo5W/giphy.gif

Ososis
05-06-2017, 03:30 PM
Lol. You don't even understand the basic mechanics of sarcasm.