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Kayla
05-05-2017, 11:53 PM
Hey Wyrom, I'm a big fan and if I may say you're probably the single biggest reason I'm back in the game!

OK, but anyhow I was wondering dontcha think it's time we raise the level limits for using magical weapons and armor across the board? It feels like that these level limits are completely irrelevant nowadays. Maybe a look into the matter might be useful?

Kayla's proposal!

Metals & Equiv enchants.
Mithril - 10 th level min.
Ora -20 th min.
Glaes - 30 th min.
Vultite - 40th min.
Golvern - 50th min.
6x and Zelnorn -60th min.
7x and Krodera -70th min.
8x and Adamantine-80th min.
9x and Special* - 90th min.
10x and Urglaes - 100th min.

Thank you Wyrom and GMs for making the game better! You guys are the best, really!

SonoftheNorth
05-06-2017, 12:02 AM
.......Macgyver

Ososis
05-06-2017, 12:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ

Mogonis
05-06-2017, 12:29 AM
Why is krodera lumped with 7x at level 70? It doesn't do anything except for the few sets of krodera full plate.

time4fun
05-06-2017, 12:30 AM
There's actual functioning krodera plate?

Mogonis
05-06-2017, 12:34 AM
What do you mean by functioning? There were four (I think) sets of krodera plate in the Spider Temple when it opened. They're 4x and +20 TD. But krodera in general does nothing unless a GM specifically gives it properties.

Ardwen
05-06-2017, 12:39 AM
not the spider temple, Sheru's temple on the moon and they all had different TD values, 1x thru 4x, Kerl has one of the original sets and it's at 7 or 8x td by now

Mogonis
05-06-2017, 12:55 AM
Whatever! I'm on my phone and watching TV.

Roiken
05-06-2017, 01:31 AM
wtf is this shit.

Androidpk
05-06-2017, 01:47 AM
not the spider temple, Sheru's temple on the moon and they all had different TD values, 1x thru 4x, Kerl has one of the original sets and it's at 7 or 8x td by now

Cinnabar still has hers.

hello
05-06-2017, 06:13 AM
This isn't me btw. And although I disagree with the premise it's not something that Wyrom is totally against apparently.

Ososis
05-06-2017, 07:19 AM
This isn't me btw. And although I disagree with the premise it's not something that Wyrom is totally against apparently.

you are a cancer on these boards. You just keep replicating until everything becomes toxic. You have done active, intentional harm to the community but are too stupid or self-centered to even feel shame over it. If you had any self-respect you would stick to one account so we could all ignore you as you require us to do. If you had any decency you would stop posting forever.

hello
05-06-2017, 07:52 AM
you are a cancer on these boards. You just keep replicating until everything becomes toxic. You have done active, intentional harm to the community but are too stupid or self-centered to even feel shame over it. If you had any self-respect you would stick to one account so we could all ignore you as you require us to do. If you had any decency you would stop posting forever.

http://cdn.niketalk.com/f/f6/200x200px-ZC-f639a21a_tom-baker-creepy-smile.gif

Ltlprprincess
05-06-2017, 08:26 AM
This is a horrible idea.

drauz
05-06-2017, 08:59 AM
Hey Wyrom, I'm a big fan and if I may say you're probably the single biggest reason I'm back in the game!

OK, but anyhow I was wondering dontcha think it's time we raise the level limits for using magical weapons and armor across the board? It feels like that these level limits are completely irrelevant nowadays. Maybe a look into the matter might be useful?

Kayla's proposal!

Metals & Equiv enchants.
Mithril - 10 th level min.
Ora -20 th min.
Glaes - 30 th min.
Vultite - 40th min.
Golvern - 50th min.
6x and Zelnorn -60th min.
7x and Krodera -70th min.
8x and Adamantine-80th min.
9x and Special* - 90th min.
10x and Urglaes - 100th min.

Thank you Wyrom and GMs for making the game better! You guys are the best, really!

http://i.imgur.com/vUfEj0F.gif

Gelston
05-06-2017, 09:05 AM
I personally think there shouldn't be level requirements on anything.

Androidpk
05-06-2017, 12:03 PM
I personally think there shouldn't be level requirements on anything.

I like level requirements but not hard ones. I'd rather see people be able to use whatever item they want but properties of said item don't become unlocked until you reach the level required.

Gelston
05-06-2017, 12:36 PM
I like level requirements but not hard ones. I'd rather see people be able to use whatever item they want but properties of said item don't become unlocked until you reach the level required.

That actually kinda exists too... If you wind up with a 10x item in your hand and you are level 10, you'll only get +20 from it and it'll increase as you level until you are 25. So long as you never put it down.

hello
05-06-2017, 12:41 PM
That actually kinda exists too... If you wind up with a 10x item in your hand and you are level 10, you'll only get +20 from it and it'll increase as you level until you are 25. So long as you never put it down.

Never knew this. I always thought if you swung a weapon in limbo situation like that it would drop out of your hand. Cool.

Astray
05-06-2017, 12:59 PM
That actually kinda exists too... If you wind up with a 10x item in your hand and you are level 10, you'll only get +20 from it and it'll increase as you level until you are 25. So long as you never put it down.

Buy Vultite weapon at a player shop, power hunt to level 10, boom. Set 4 lyfe.

drauz
05-09-2017, 02:02 AM
I would rather see upgrades to existing metals like kroderine. Add another level to unlock (even though I hate unlocks one tier isn't bad) where it allows you to keep a portion of your mana like 25 or 50%.

Androidpk
05-09-2017, 09:06 AM
I would rather see upgrades to existing metals like kroderine. Add another level to unlock (even though I hate unlocks one tier isn't bad) where it allows you to keep a portion of your mana like 25 or 50%.

I'd rather see other metals get attention first. Kroderine already has cool properties but what about golvern? Golvern needs loving too!

hello
05-09-2017, 09:11 AM
I'd rather see other metals get attention first. Kroderine already has cool properties but what about golvern? Golvern needs loving too!

Golvern is the strongest metal. Wyrom spoke about making those breakage numbers mean something so... we'll see.

drauz
05-09-2017, 09:14 AM
I'd rather see other metals get attention first. Kroderine already has cool properties but what about golvern? Golvern needs loving too!

That was just an idea off the top of my head. I would love if other rarer metals get special abilities. I don't think golvern is one of those metals though, its fairly common and should just be the 5x metal.

drauz
05-09-2017, 09:21 AM
Golvern is the strongest metal. Wyrom spoke about making those breakage numbers mean something so... we'll see.

You would be wrong, its adamantine.

Androidpk
05-09-2017, 09:22 AM
That was just an idea off the top of my head. I would love if other rarer metals get special abilities. I don't think golvern is one of those metals though, its fairly common and should just be the 5x metal.

YOUR IDEAS ARE BAD

hello
05-09-2017, 09:24 AM
You would be wrong, its adamantine.

I suppose this is correct especially after this DR. I guess the foregable common strongest metal.

But I think Wyrom is thinking about temporary breakage based around the breakage numbers. Possibly taking an hour to fix at the forge (costing the slab amount) or turning it in to a NPC smith to fix, taking several hours and 5k per enchant? 10k for flare? 2k per level of weighting? some ideas.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 09:29 AM
I suppose this is correct especially after this DR. I guess the foregable common strongest metal.

But I think Wyrom is thinking about temporary breakage based around the breakage numbers. Possibly taking an hour to fix at the forge (costing the slab amount) or turning it in to a NPC smith to fix, taking several hours and 5k per enchant? 10k for flare? 2k per level of weighting? some ideas.

You have no idea what wyrom is thinking. Every time you say you do I want to punch you in the dick. Wyrom is very vocal, and the last person he needs speaking for him is you.

EDIT
Dickpunch will be 6 on our D20 simucon game.

Neveragain
05-09-2017, 09:34 AM
I suppose this is correct especially after this DR. I guess the foregable common strongest metal.

But I think Wyrom is thinking about temporary breakage based around the breakage numbers. Possibly taking an hour to fix at the forge (costing the slab amount) or turning it in to a NPC smith to fix, taking several hours and 5k per enchant? 10k for flare? 2k per level of weighting? some ideas.

Gemstone Breakage:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tQhZM5QfM4

hello
05-09-2017, 09:37 AM
You have no idea what wyrom is thinking. Every time you say you do I want to punch you in the dick. Wyrom is very vocal, and the last person he needs speaking for him is you.

EDIT
Dickpunch will be 6 on our D20 simucon game.

What if I don't have a dick?

http://i46.tinypic.com/34r7uqp.jpg

Ososis
05-09-2017, 09:38 AM
What if I don't have a dick?

Then I have been right all along.

hello
05-09-2017, 09:39 AM
Gemstone Breakage:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tQhZM5QfM4

It's going to be 10x worse than that. Although, the new "tempering potion" which will make your weapons twice as strong will be a huge seller.

drauz
05-09-2017, 09:44 AM
YOUR IDEAS ARE BAD

http://i.imgur.com/0ISIr9g.jpg

Neveragain
05-09-2017, 09:56 AM
It's going to be 10x worse than that. Although, the new "tempering potion" which will make your weapons twice as strong will be a huge seller.

4x gear will last a player years, with breakage artisan skills and class skills become a much higher demand. It also opens the opportunity for future class and artisan development.

hello
05-09-2017, 09:59 AM
4x gear will last a player years, with breakage artisan skills and class skills become a much higher demand. It also opens the opportunity for future class and artisan development.

Oh I totally agree. It's just these bottom feeders are gonna get their panties twisted because their uber item might not sell for the bajillion silvers it used to.

drauz
05-09-2017, 10:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/s7X2KFu.png

Ososis
05-09-2017, 10:20 AM
I hope the OP is okay. She created an account, made this thread, logged out the same minute and never came back.

Kayla
Join Date 05-05-2017
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Whirlin
05-09-2017, 10:28 AM
I hope the OP is okay. She created an account, made this thread, logged out the same minute and never came back.

Kayla
Join Date 05-05-2017
Last Activity 05-05-2017 08:53 PM

She just moved onto her next account

drauz
05-09-2017, 10:45 AM
She just moved onto her next account

The Rock?

Mogonis
05-09-2017, 11:50 AM
Pretty sure creating tons of usernames here, especially just to troll, is a sign of mental illness.

hello
05-09-2017, 12:02 PM
Pretty sure creating tons of usernames here, especially just to troll, is a sign of mental illness.

Probably, but even crazy people suffer from boredom. This person or persons creating the new wave of trolls isn't me; I've said that empathically many times. Hello, is probably my final iteration of handles so long as somehow I get back to green rep.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 12:06 PM
Probably, but even crazy people suffer from boredom. This person or persons creating the new wave of trolls isn't me; I've said that empathically many times. Hello, is probably my final iteration of handles so long as somehow I get back to green rep.

Honestly, what do you think your word is worth here?

hello
05-09-2017, 12:15 PM
Honestly, what do you think your word is worth here?

nah, serious this time, just tired of trying to keep this up.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 12:21 PM
nah, serious this time, just tired of trying to keep this up.


nah, seriously. Why should anyone believe your word when you have been caught in at least a dozen lies? What is your alt count at? 20?

hello
05-09-2017, 12:26 PM
nah, seriously. Why should anyone believe your word when you have been caught in at least a dozen lies? What is your alt count at? 20?

Not really trying to hide anything. If I were really trying I would've taken steps to do so, I'm a benign troll if a troll at all. If you go back through my posts, the vast vast bulk of it has pertained to Gemstone positively (apart from F2P criticisms which are completely accurate btw.) I've only continued posting because it was fascinating how people use the term 'troll' to vilify someone who might not have the exact same perspective and have that perspective explode into something that was never warranted in the first place. In many ways, most of the people here have been trolling me. Think on it.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 12:33 PM
Not really trying to hide anything. If I were really trying I would've taken steps to do so, I'm a benign troll if a troll at all. If you go back through my posts, the vast vast bulk of it has pertained to Gemstone positively (apart from F2P criticisms which are completely accurate btw.) I've only continued posting because it was fascinating how people use the term 'troll' to vilify someone who might not have the exact same perspective and have that perspective explode into something that was never warranted in the first place. In many ways, most of the people here have been trolling me. Think on it.

Not sure if it's willful ignorance or deliberate stupidity. You always claim people dislike you because of your opinions, or because they are greedy, or hateful, or a good ole boys club when in reality its your behavior, and only your behavior that is to blame. You are a shit person, what do you expect? Still waiting for ANY good reason anyone should believe you after you have been caught in so many lies.

hello
05-09-2017, 12:53 PM
Not sure if it's willful ignorance or deliberate stupidity. You always claim people dislike you because of your opinions, or because they are greedy, or hateful, or a good ole boys club when in reality its your behavior, and only your behavior that is to blame. You are a shit person, what do you expect? Still waiting for ANY good reason anyone should believe you after you have been caught in so many lies.

The past is the past, and there were a lot of behind the scenes you can't possibly understand. I've been lurking here since before this forum was even here. I've always been here. Anyhow, my condition stands. As long as get back to green rep I will keep using this handle and this handle alone, Whirlin can verify.

Whirlin
05-09-2017, 01:17 PM
The past is the past, and there were a lot of behind the scenes you can't possibly understand. I've been lurking here since before this forum was even here. I've always been here. Anyhow, my condition stands. As long as get back to green rep I will keep using this handle and this handle alone, Whirlin can verify.
Nope, you're full of shit.

Androidpk
05-09-2017, 01:17 PM
Not sure if it's willful ignorance or deliberate stupidity. You always claim people dislike you because of your opinions, or because they are greedy, or hateful, or a good ole boys club when in reality its your behavior, and only your behavior that is to blame. You are a shit person, what do you expect? Still waiting for ANY good reason anyone should believe you after you have been caught in so many lies.

Hey, here's a novel idea, stop feeding the troll? You're constantly responding to him. Just stop already and let him fade away to obscurity.

everan
05-09-2017, 01:47 PM
I don't think I ever saw the reason why this would be a good idea. Is it to keep a 20 train person from having 10x gear? It all seems somewhat irrelevant.

When I first read the title I thought it was a proposal to add 11x, etc., not to limit the ability to use gear folks already have.

Good tip about buying gear from a playershop, leet move.

Gelston
05-09-2017, 03:21 PM
I don't think I ever saw the reason why this would be a good idea. Is it to keep a 20 train person from having 10x gear? It all seems somewhat irrelevant.

When I first read the title I thought it was a proposal to add 11x, etc., not to limit the ability to use gear folks already have.

Good tip about buying gear from a playershop, leet move.

Probably to prevent people from being OP at low levels, but honestly, who gives a crap. If someone is rocking a 10x at level 1 they probably have other high level characters and are just power leveling up.

Mogonis
05-09-2017, 03:48 PM
Plus people can just have their higher-level alts help them hunt. Scaling weapon performance probably wouldn't affect a lot of people.

Fallen
05-09-2017, 03:48 PM
Why give something away for free when you can charge people for it? Coming soon to a Simucoin store near you, the 30 Day Equipment Usage Pass! Use any and all equipment at any level you please. A steal at only 2,500 Simucoins a pop.

Gelston
05-09-2017, 03:50 PM
Why give something away for free when you can charge people for it? Coming soon to a Simucoin store near you, the 30 Day Equipment Usage Pass! Use any and all equipment at any level you please. A steal at only 2,500 Simucoins a pop.

Hell, SWTOR has something like that for F2P. In order to equip Purple or higher they have to buy that, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary... Wait, doesn't GS already do something like that for F2P with capped Weighting/Padding and enchants?

Fallen
05-09-2017, 03:54 PM
Hell, SWTOR has something like that for F2P. In order to equip Purple or higher they have to buy that, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary... Wait, doesn't GS already do something like that for F2P with capped Weighting/Padding and enchants?

Looks like it. Gold gear pass. 1,350 Simucoins. I was close.

Have an awesome piece of equipment that you want to get full use out of? A Gold Gear Pass may just be for you. While under an active Gold Gear Pass, you will receive the full benefits of any equipment's enchantment, weighting, padding, sighting, TD enhancement, or Defensive Bonus (DB), just like a paid subscriber. This pass is applied automatically upon in-game delivery and is only applicable to Free-to-Play accounts. It will last for 90 real life days.

Archigeek
05-09-2017, 04:36 PM
I'd much rather they spend time making the existing metal properties count for more, than further limiting the number of people who can use them. In a game with a small population, further shrinking the number of people who can use neat stuff makes no sense to me. Lower the requirements on some of the arbitrarily high ones like zelnorn, kroderine, and adamantine.

But first...

1. Apply weight modifiers across the board by metal type to all new equipment. I have no idea when they started to allow anyone to lower the weight of any thing to the item's minimum with no factor for metal, but applying a metal modifier would have been a better choice.

2. Take away the limiting factors from metals that are only fancy in name and have no other (or very weak) special properties. I'm looking at you veil iron, razern, rolaren, and krodera. The paltry benefit that veil iron and krodera both get in lieu of ensorcelling should have never prevented ensorcelling. An effectively 0x ensorcelled item should be easier to ensorcell, not impossible to ensorcell. And razern's pointless light weighting is sad, and like veil iron, does virtually nothing other than limit players from actually doing something with the metal.

3. Dial back the spigot in the treasure hopper. Make golvern great again! And fireleaf, and lor, and veil iron.

Parkbandit
05-09-2017, 04:50 PM
I've been lurking here since before this forum was even here. I've always been here.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/14/wtf_2.jpg


Anyhow, my condition stands. As long as get back to green rep I will keep using this handle and this handle alone, Whirlin can verify.

Well fuck. On one hand.. you having green rep literally upsets Ososis by his own admission... but now that you are making it a demand...

I'm not sure which way I should go now.

Gelston
05-09-2017, 05:00 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/14/wtf_2.jpg



Well fuck. On one hand.. you having green rep literally upsets Ososis by his own admission... but now that you are making it a demand...

I'm not sure which way I should go now.

He said he was quitting the PC before. He is still here.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 06:18 PM
Hey, here's a novel idea, stop feeding the troll? You're constantly responding to him. Just stop already and let him fade away to obscurity.

Sounds like you slipped into skinny jeans by mistake.

Ososis
05-09-2017, 06:20 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/14/wtf_2.jpg



Well fuck. On one hand.. you having green rep literally upsets Ososis by his own admission... but now that you are making it a demand...

I'm not sure which way I should go now.

No, i said you just green rep him to piss me off. I realize the distinction is probably lost on you though.

Androidpk
05-09-2017, 06:35 PM
Sounds like you slipped into skinny jeans by mistake.

They're not skinny jeans, my legs are naturally swoll.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FOMYA0zaGT4/maxresdefault.jpg

Whirlin
05-09-2017, 06:46 PM
All you fucks posting random images of bodybuilders... and here I am like:

http://i.imgur.com/peH6TzF.gif

Parkbandit
05-09-2017, 08:50 PM
No, i said you just green rep him to piss me off. I realize the distinction is probably lost on you though.

Sorry.. not only do I have no idea who the fuck you are.. I don't have a copy of your Arch Enemies List.

But seriously .................................................. ..

Ososis
05-09-2017, 09:03 PM
Sorry.. not only do I have no idea who the fuck you are.. I don't have a copy of your Arch Enemies List.

But seriously .................................................. ..

Lol. sure thing buddy.


PB neg rep
Thread: DR Sewer Finds FS (All MB: 1k)
McGyver is green again. How upset are you? LOFL

tyrant-201
05-09-2017, 09:07 PM
Lol. sure thing buddy.


PB neg rep
Thread: DR Sewer Finds FS (All MB: 1k)
McGyver is green again. How upset are you? LOFL

Best to just ignore the pathetic old fuck.