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Alarke
01-02-2005, 01:03 AM
Has anyone tested the usefulness of Religion Lore since the change to bane and 317? I had 50 ranks in religion to increase the infusion %, but not that infusion is more or less useful, I wonder if dropping the lore altogether isnt a bad idea. I understand it also increases the minimum damage of 317, but if I am not doing the minimum damage, does this even matter? If anyone has had time to look into this any help would be great!

Mistomeer
01-02-2005, 01:22 AM
I'm 1x'd in it and my 312 and 317 rocks. I'll post you some clips so you can compare later or you can just IM me.

Ryenn
03-02-2005, 12:26 PM
You channel at a frost giant.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +128 + CvA: +19 + d100: +33 == +138
Warding failed!
The frost giant is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 47 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
The frost giant's eye is melted into a bloody mess by a stunning bolt of plasma!
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at a frost giant.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses a frost giant.
CS: +214 - TD: +134 + CvA: +19 + d100: +79 == +178
Warding failed!
The violet haze violently swirls around the giant, scorching the skin of a frost giant.
The frost giant is hit for 45 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
A raw, red hole is drilled in the frost giant's chest by a powerful bolt!
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at a frost giant.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +134 + CvA: +25 + d100: +84 == +189
Warding failed!
The frost giant is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 76 points of damage!
... 45 points of damage!
The frost giant's eye is melted into a bloody mess by a stunning bolt of plasma!
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You channel at an ice troll.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an ice troll.
CS: +214 - TD: +92 + CvA: +25 + d100: +42 == +189
Warding failed!
The violet haze violently swirls around the troll, scorching the skin of an ice troll.
The ice troll is hit for 45 points of damage!
... 25 points of damage!
Crackling blue plasma roasts a smoking hole in the ice troll's neck!
The ice troll falls to the ground motionless.
The powerful look leaves an ice troll.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at an ice troll.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an ice troll.
CS: +214 - TD: +86 + CvA: +25 + d100: +98 == +251
Warding failed!
A triad of ebony orbs cojoined by crackling ribbons of violet energy suddenly appear out of nowhere. The pulsating orbs take up a position directly in front of the ice troll, and slowly begin to move apart, stopping when they form a triangular shape of equal height to the creature. Encasing the troll within this framework, the triangle begins to rotate with tremendous speed, binding the troll with a cocoon of energy ribbons. A blur of violet and black obscures an ice troll from view and as mysteriously as the orbs appeared, they fade away. All that remains of the troll is a charred ashen figure of its former self lying upon the ground.Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at an ice troll.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an ice troll.
CS: +214 - TD: +92 + CvA: +25 + d100: +61 == +208
Warding failed!
The violet haze chaotically swirls around the troll, the tremendous force causing the victim to crumple inward upon itself!
The ice troll is hit for 45 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Internal organs roasted instantly in an explosive flash of plasma!
The ice troll falls to the ground motionless.
The powerful look leaves an ice troll.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You channel at an ice troll.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an ice troll.
CS: +214 - TD: +92 + CvA: +25 + d100: +88 == +235
Warding failed!
The violet haze chaotically swirls around the troll, the tremendous force causing the victim to crumple inward upon itself!
The ice troll is hit for 45 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Hole drilled clean through the ice troll's forehead, instant ventilation!
The ice troll falls to the ground motionless.
The powerful look leaves an ice troll.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

You channel at an ice troll.
A sickly, violet haze encompasses an ice troll.
CS: +214 - TD: +102 + CvA: +25 + d100: +79 == +216
Warding failed!
The violet haze chaotically swirls around the troll, the tremendous force causing the victim to crumple inward upon itself!
The ice troll is hit for 45 points of damage!
... 45 points of damage!
Tremendous plasma discharge slices deep into the ice troll's chest!
The ice troll falls to the ground motionless.
The light blue glow leaves an ice troll.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

Ryenn
03-02-2005, 12:38 PM
You channel at a frost giant.
A single radiant, brown globe springs to life in your right hand. With a flick of your right wrist, the globe dances through the air toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +134 + CvA: +25 + d100: +68 == +173
Warding failed!
The orb squarely impacts a frost giant, discharging the brown energy over his entire being for 92 points of damage!
The brown energy pulses for an additional 64 points of damage ...
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at a frost giant.
A single radiant, brown globe springs to life in your right hand. With a flick of your right wrist, the globe dances through the air toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +131 + CvA: +25 + d100: +72 == +180
Warding failed!
The orb squarely impacts a frost giant, discharging the brown energy over his entire being for 93 points of damage!
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at a frost giant.
A single radiant, brown globe springs to life in your right hand. With a flick of your right wrist, the globe dances through the air toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +124 + CvA: +19 + d100: +64 == +173
Warding failed!
The orb squarely impacts a frost giant, discharging the brown energy over his entire being for 85 points of damage!
The brown energy pulses for an additional 59 points of damage ...
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

You channel at a frost giant.
A single radiant, brown globe springs to life in your right hand. With a flick of your right wrist, the globe dances through the air toward a frost giant!
CS: +214 - TD: +134 + CvA: +19 + d100: +53 == +152
Warding failed!
The orb squarely impacts a frost giant, discharging the brown energy over his entire being for 76 points of damage!
The brown energy pulses for an additional 53 points of damage ...
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Alarke
03-02-2005, 02:17 PM
I actually dropped all religon lore (70 or so ranks at the time) to get about 13 more spells. It worked until I tried hunting the rift or OTF, places you need to use 312 or 317 to kill because if you dont kill fast the swarms rip you apart. Overall i think it'd work at a younger age, but i wouldnt lose my religon lore for the 7 CS I picked up, in fact i raised it from a flat 50 ranks to 1x.

Alarke
03-02-2005, 09:07 PM
I havn't checked %.. I could run a test on different critters and see what the outcomes are. The main thing I notice is the damage factor on things i dont instantly kill. I kill gremlocks in one shot 75% of the time, which is huge, and taints about 50% of the time. Thinks like beings it's nice to get a long stun against so i can kill the other stuff before baning them to death. Rift I dont see as many instant kills with it as OTF.

Flurbins
03-03-2005, 09:06 AM
I'll throw out some shots for you with some lore. All shots are both hands open offensive channel. Charge time for 312 is set to 0 seconds. I know it's more than 1x, but I hope it helps!


Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 164 64.995 53 57 in-game hours

Level: 52

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +51 == +107
Warding failed!
The black forest ogre is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 67 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Muscle blasted away from the black forest ogre's arm exposing scorched bone!
The black forest ogre is stunned!
... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to right arm burns skin bright red.
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to abdomen. Looks painful.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +46 == +102
Warding failed!
The black forest ogre is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 59 points of damage!
... 25 points of damage!
Glaring burst to the black forest ogre's chest dances across skin leaving smoking holes!
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to back. Looks uncomfortable.
... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left arm burns skin bright red.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a massive black boar!
CS: +270 - TD: +223 + CvA: +25 + d100: +67 == +139
Warding failed!
The black boar is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 87 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Superheated arc of plasma traces blackened path across the black boar's belly!
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to left arm. That hurts a bit.
... 10 points of damage!
Minor burns to right arm. That hurts a bit.

You channel at a massive black boar.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a massive black boar!
CS: +270 - TD: +223 + CvA: +25 + d100: +60 == +132
Warding failed!
The black boar is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 84 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Wreath of energy burns away the black boar's hair and leaves skin blackened!
... 15 points of damage!
Minor burns to back. Looks uncomfortable.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +72 == +128
Warding failed!
The black forest ogre is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 63 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Powerful blast to the black forest ogre's abdomen parboils internal organs!
The black forest ogre is stunned!
... 15 points of damage!
Burst of flames char chest a crispy black.
... 10 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left hand burns fingers bright red.

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a massive black boar!
CS: +270 - TD: +223 + CvA: +25 + d100: +76 == +148
Warding failed!
The black boar is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 69 points of damage!
... 45 points of damage!
The black boar's fingers burn and explode leaving blackened stumps!
... 10 points of damage!
Minor burns to right arm. That hurts a bit.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

>channel at boar
You channel at a massive black boar.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a massive black boar!
CS: +270 - TD: +223 + CvA: +25 + d100: +76 == +148
Warding failed!
The black boar is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 73 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Skin blasted away leaving exposed and bloody muscle!
... 15 points of damage!
Minor burns to neck. Looks uncomfortable.

Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +210 + CvA: +8 + d100: +65 == +133
Warding failed!
The black forest ogre is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 71 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Muscle blasted away from the black forest ogre's arm exposing scorched bone!
The black forest ogre is stunned!
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left hand. Gonna need lots of butter.

Two dim, crystal blue globes spring to life in your open hands. With a quick flick of your wrists, the orbs dance through the air toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +69 == +125
Warding failed!
The orbs squarely impact a black forest ogre, discharging the crystal blue energy over her entire being for 50 points of damage!
The crystal blue energy pulses for an additional 35 points of damage ...
... 21 points of damage ...
... 10 points of damage ...
... 5 points of damage ...
... dissipating with a final discharge of 2 points of damage!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Two dim, crystal blue globes spring to life in your open hands. With a quick flick of your wrists, the orbs dance through the air toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +47 == +103
Warding failed!
The orbs squarely impact a black forest ogre, discharging the crystal blue energy over her entire being for 31 points of damage!
The crystal blue energy pulses for an additional 21 points of damage ...
... 12 points of damage ...
... 6 points of damage ...
... dissipating with a final discharge of 3 points of damage!

Two dim, crystal blue globes spring to life in your open hands. With a quick flick of your wrists, the orbs dance through the air toward a black forest ogre!
CS: +270 - TD: +222 + CvA: +8 + d100: +57 == +113
Warding failed!
The orbs squarely impact a black forest ogre, discharging the crystal blue energy over her entire being for 38 points of damage!
The crystal blue energy pulses for an additional 26 points of damage ...
... 15 points of damage ...
... 7 points of damage ...
... 3 points of damage ...
... dissipating with a final discharge of 1 points of damage!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Flurbins
03-03-2005, 02:22 PM
I'm seeing one shot kills on the ogres/vipers maybe .25 to .33 of my casts. Boars it's about one out of 10 or so. I never crit kill with any crit but the first.

Ryenn
03-03-2005, 08:31 PM
You channel at an arctic titan.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the ground at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward an arctic titan!
CS: +214 - TD: +110 + CvA: +10 + d100: +43 == +157
Warding failed!
The arctic titan is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 75 points of damage!
... 50 points of damage!
The arctic titan is sliced open neatly by brilliant beam of plasma!
The arctic titan is stunned!
... 30 points of damage!
Dissolved larynx opens windpipe. Unfortunately it quickly fills with blood!
The arctic titan falls to the ground motionless.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Alarke
03-04-2005, 03:55 PM
Here's a few casts of 317 from my last hunt... currently level 77 with 79 ranks of SL:R:

You channel at a gremlock.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a gremlock!
CS: +396 - TD: +338 + CvA: +25 + d100: +47 == +130
Warding failed!
The gremlock is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 71 points of damage!
... 25 points of damage!
Crackling blue plasma roasts a smoking hole in the gremlock's neck!
A gremlock collapses and her eyes roll up as she dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.



You channel at a gremlock.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a gremlock!
CS: +396 - TD: +329 + CvA: +25 + d100: +13 == +105
Warding failed!
The gremlock is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 42 points of damage!
... 25 points of damage!
A raw, red hole is drilled in the gremlock's chest by a powerful bolt!
A gremlock collapses and her eyes roll up as she dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.


You channel at a gremlock.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a gremlock!
CS: +396 - TD: +332 + CvA: +25 + d100: +68 == +157
Warding failed!
The gremlock is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 85 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Awesome lash of plasma severs the gremlock's arm completely!
The gremlock is stunned!
... 25 points of damage!
Slash strikes the gremlock's left eye.
Seems there was a brain there after all.
A gremlock collapses and his eyes roll up as he dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.


You channel at a bent being.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a bent being!
CS: +396 - TD: +348 + CvA: +25 + d100: +83 == +156
Warding failed!
The bent being is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 109 points of damage!
... 50 points of damage!
The bent being is sliced open neatly by brilliant beam of plasma!
The bent being is stunned!
... 15 points of damage!
Slice to the bent being's left fingers.
Nice move.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


You channel at a gremlock.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a gremlock!
CS: +396 - TD: +329 + CvA: +25 + d100: +77 == +169
Warding failed!
The gremlock is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 98 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Powerful lash of plasma travels down neck to the gremlock's heart!
A gremlock collapses and her eyes roll up as she dies.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.


You channel at a bent being.
Particles of dust and soot rise from the floor at your feet as you release a pulsating, platinum ripple of energy toward a bent being!
CS: +396 - TD: +353 + CvA: +25 + d100: +83 == +151
Warding failed!
The bent being is cloaked in a blinding platinum light and assailed for 102 points of damage!
... 35 points of damage!
Awesome lash of plasma severs the bent being's arm completely!
The bent being howls in pain as it loses its right arm!
The bent being is stunned!
... 10 points of damage!
Wild slash scratches the back of the bent being's hand.
A bent being falls over with a curse, then dies.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding a bent being suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around a bent being.
A bent being becomes solid again.
The bright luminescence fades from around a bent being.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.