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0zymandius
03-29-2017, 09:02 PM
So, my wife and I are thinking back fondly to our days in Gemstone, though we've both been gone for a while, and we're considering reactivating to play with our two sons, age 10 and 12. From what I can remember, the game is at least somewhat regulated to be family-friendly... right? I mean, clearly they wouldn't be able to have LNet accessibility, but just as a method to play the regular game and interact with people in-character... is there something I'm overlooking that would make this a really poor idea?

Generally speaking we'd all be playing together, which of course makes it a million times easier to keep an eye on them, but is the game in a state where kids can theoretically play unsupervised? Anyone here have kids that play (or that have tried it)?

Mogonis
03-29-2017, 09:04 PM
Yes, and in fact, Simu has updated their policies on vulgar language. Simu has always intended the game to be family-friendly and 13+. If you did have them tune to LNet, they should be OK with the help channel at least. The Prime channel should be clean as well. Obviously keep them off the LNet channel.

Tgo01
03-29-2017, 09:49 PM
Gemstone is safe for kids. Well, except for Krampus....

Androidpk
03-29-2017, 09:50 PM
Gemstone is safe for kids. Well, except for Krampus....

and Klaive

Taernath
03-29-2017, 10:10 PM
A lot of us started when we were kids/teenagers and look how we turned out.

Nathala Crane
03-29-2017, 10:13 PM
I was 13 and my brother was 11 when we first played on AOL. They'll be fine. Just keep 'em off of Lnet.

Allereli
03-29-2017, 10:14 PM
Yes, and in fact, Simu has updated their policies on vulgar language. Simu has always intended the game to be family-friendly and 13+. If you did have them tune to LNet, they should be OK with the help channel at least. The Prime channel should be clean as well. Obviously keep them off the LNet channel.

like they're not going to tune in when they're unsupervised...

Tgo01
03-29-2017, 10:16 PM
Might as well just throw them into the deep end of the GS pool known as LNet.

macgyver
03-29-2017, 10:17 PM
Most fucking definitely get them OFF LNET. In fact, recommend you remove Lich altogether just to be safe.

tyrant-201
03-29-2017, 10:18 PM
As long as they're playing with their parents, I see nothing wrong with it! Lots of creeps in this game. Tg0 included!

Tgo01
03-29-2017, 10:19 PM
As long as they're playing with their parents, I see nothing wrong with it! Lots of creeps in this game. Tg0 included!

Banned from Dreavenings!

macgyver
03-29-2017, 10:24 PM
Going to create macgyverings with my army of 25th level spellbots.

Tgo01
03-29-2017, 10:26 PM
Going to create macgyverings with my army of 25th level spellbots.

:O

Tenlaar
03-29-2017, 10:49 PM
There was no LNet when I was a teenager and I still managed to cyber with a grown woman who sent me nudes.

It was awesome. I say let them play!

Ltlprprincess
03-29-2017, 11:28 PM
So this is actually something Zaigh and I have debated back and forth regarding my son. We want to introduce him to GS, but we're not sure he's "mature" enough to handle dealing with people here... and I'm seriously concerned crazy will try to stick their talons in him and take advantage of him. We're also concerned he might just end up a stupid jerk IG and screw with our accounts because he'd be tied to them in some form.

Gelston
03-29-2017, 11:31 PM
I started when I was 11, but GS was a bit different back then on the whole. There were a lot more other kids and stuff playing back then. Now? Not really. There are a lot flashier options for an 11 year old and they'd likely go for that over a 30 year old text based game. Still, I don't think it would be too bad as long as the kid isn't on lich chat. Hell, just don't even install lich, let him figure out the game without it. Print out maps, maybe you'll even get your own nostalgia back.

Geijon Khyree
03-29-2017, 11:50 PM
I don't recommend it before 13-14.

Ltlprprincess
03-29-2017, 11:54 PM
I started when I was 11, but GS was a bit different back then on the whole. There were a lot more other kids and stuff playing back then. Now? Not really. There are a lot flashier options for an 11 year old and they'd likely go for that over a 30 year old text based game. Still, I don't think it would be too bad as long as the kid isn't on lich chat. Hell, just don't even install lich, let him figure out the game without it. Print out maps, maybe you'll even get your own nostalgia back.

This thought had also crossed my mind, as well as limiting the amount of playtime.

Taernath
03-29-2017, 11:58 PM
So this is actually something Zaigh and I have debated back and forth regarding my son. We want to introduce him to GS, but we're not sure he's "mature" enough to handle dealing with people here... and I'm seriously concerned crazy will try to stick their talons in him and take advantage of him. We're also concerned he might just end up a stupid jerk IG and screw with our accounts because he'd be tied to them in some form.

You could set up a F2P to gauge his interest/ability, but if you have doubts about his maturity maybe just wait a few years.

velderan
03-30-2017, 12:03 AM
My daughter just expressed interest in this game 2 days ago, and she's 12. I like the f2p account idea to see how she does.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 12:06 AM
The most important thing you can teach your kids about playing GS: sort auto headtotoe

Wyrom
03-30-2017, 01:26 AM
While I know a few people mocked the idea that the vulgarity policy was being worked on, as well as some updates on how we deal with cyber-bullying, it's actually a pretty big issue we needed to try to put a lid on. Like Gelston mentioned, many of us got our start in our early years, the Internet was a much different place and we also didn't invest the amount of time into GS like we do now. Back then, you tried to get in an hour or two a week, maybe more if you had unlimited access and a second phone line. Now telling a total stranger to get rekt, l2p, and using an assortment of vulgar acronyms are common place.

GemStone IV actually has a lot of younger players right now. Maybe not "kids" but we have some teenagers and young adults. Most of us who got that early start to GS are likely in our mid 30s to 40s with kids of our own. And while maybe most of you keep private, some people are very graphic in not-so-private places.

After the Professor did that great video about GS, we wondered what a legitimately new player would do in terms of triggering our new vulgarity system. We figured not many would join the game for the first time and just use profanity. We were wrong. One person told the sprite to F-off. Another person cursed at some town-wandering NPCs. I'd not think that would be the first thing you'd do, but now we know.

We have had feedback about children being exposed to things over the years, so it's been creeping up as a priority of mine to make the new user experience smoother.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 01:31 AM
Back then, you tried to get in an hour or two a week

Do you even GS, bro?


One person told the sprite to F-off.

Do you even PC, bro?

Richaard
03-30-2017, 01:36 AM
I never thought to tell my Sprite to F--off... lol! Especially when I agreed for it to help me in the first place.

::creates new character to tell his Sprite something::

ktig
03-30-2017, 02:56 AM
I never thought to tell my Sprite to F--off... lol! Especially when I agreed for it to help me in the first place.

::creates new character to tell his Sprite something::

Ask the flower girl about sex.

0zymandius
03-30-2017, 07:18 AM
Thanks guys. Once this Semester of Hell(tm) is over and we've got some free time again we'll probably give it a go. I kinda doubt it'll hold their interest... they're used to games with loud explosions where you can kill everything in sight without any real repercussions... but they've heard my wife and I reminisce about it and want to give it a try.

Whirlin
03-30-2017, 08:53 AM
I'd be very interested to hear any progress you make/don't make, etc.

Elerdran
03-30-2017, 09:05 AM
If you're worried about them messing around on lnet like others mentioned, you could set the channels you want to use and then modify the script around line 1331 to handle the tune command differently. You'd have to do it again if lnet gets an update, but that doesn't happen too often.

m444w
03-30-2017, 09:17 AM
I think being exposed to programming (ala Lich/Ruby) is a great boon, and may spark an interest that will take them far in life, and it's all wrapped up inside of an enjoyable game.

Sure, it's a double-edged sword to some extent, but I think (as a non-childrearing random stranger on the internet) it is generally worth it.

Whirlin
03-30-2017, 09:21 AM
I think being exposed (and maybe learning) programming is a great skill for young people to be exposed to, and may spark an interest that will take them far in life, and it's all wrapped up inside of an enjoyable game.

Sure, it's a double-edged sword to some extent, but I think (as a non-childrearing random stranger on the internet) it is generally worth it.
Tsoran's Spreadsheet sparked my interest in Excel... I'm now in the top 1% of contributors over on Excelforum.com, and one of the highest rated in the US. If I ever had the time, I still plan on re-writing Tsoran's old training spreadsheet from the ground up, using good, normalized, more efficient backend macros and front end features... but, who'd have thought I'm doing lots of stuff now... and it doesn't seem as needed as it once was.

Initially, I began writing WFE scripts, wrote my own fletching script and stuff. Really helped teach me about logical flow of events, actions, and use of syntax through a relatively simple scripting language. Never quite made the transition to ruby, as the community is fucking ridiculous as ruby scripts, and there's nothing that I've really NEEDED to write that hasn't been written.

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 09:49 AM
I feel like GS would definitely give him an avenue to roleplay and "be Harry Potter." I'd rather him do this than play FNAF. :thumbdown:

Gelston
03-30-2017, 09:50 AM
I feel like GS would definitely give him an avenue to roleplay and "be Harry Potter." I'd rather him do this than play FNAF. :thumbdown:

What is FNAF?

Taernath
03-30-2017, 10:03 AM
Five Nights at Freddies.

jtyler
03-30-2017, 10:11 AM
Random non-child-bearing-stranger but damn it's weird to see people talking about stuff I did as a kid and sharing it with their own kids

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 10:16 AM
Five Nights at Freddies.

Seriously not a fan but my kids love it for some bloody reason.

Stumplicker
03-30-2017, 10:17 AM
Personally, I always try to do my cybering in TSC. That way you get helpful critiques on your performance, and anybody who wants can just jump right in and participate. I'm an RP starter.

For serious though, consider Gemstone, minus the LNet channel and these forums, safe for your kids. Especially if you're there playing with them. Games like League of Legends, World of Warcraft, pretty much everywhere else are just rife with unchecked horribleness. Gemstone has always done a good job of maintaining a family friendly atmosphere, especially in comparison to the gaming community on the whole. In character, we're mostly decent folk to each other. Keep your kids to the IC channels, like we should all try to be doing ourselves anyway, and you won't run into any problems.

Wrathbringer
03-30-2017, 10:21 AM
Five Nights at Freddies.

What the hell is this?

Taernath
03-30-2017, 10:22 AM
What the hell is this?

Jump Shart: the Game. You'd enjoy it.

Wrathbringer
03-30-2017, 10:23 AM
Jump Shart: the Game. You'd enjoy it.

I created that.

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 10:27 AM
Jump Shart: the Game. You'd enjoy it.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Taernath again.

Tenlaar
03-30-2017, 10:32 AM
Keep your kids to the IC channels, like we should all try to be doing ourselves anyway

You don't tell me how to live my life, MAN!

Stumplicker
03-30-2017, 10:36 AM
You don't tell me how to live my life, MAN!

Haha, it's not like I'm any better at keeping to IC channels than anyone else. If anything, I'm far worse than most people. But you've gotta admit, certain bits of the OOC nature of lich do detract from the overall atmosphere of Gemstone. Don't get me wrong. It's a great program and I personally don't think Gemstone would still be surviving in a profitable way without it, but some things I do wish it didn't have. I miss the amunet community. I miss the voln community you slowly became a part of as people used symbol of need for help, a thing largely disregarded now that ;locate is a thing. And sure, I could choose not to use those features of lich, but those little corners of Gemstone I used to love are now still empty because everybody else is using lich instead.

Erous
03-30-2017, 10:41 AM
I would just keep them off LNET chat in general, all of them, prime, merchant, etc. You can probably leave the HELP channel up. When I came back to the game after 15 years, the biggest blow for me was LNET because it really just sucks the immersion out of how GS originally played, with some obvious trade-offs in that it gives you much better access to a community of resources and merchanting. If you want them to experience GS, they should experience GS without the overhead chatter.

Jhynnifer
03-30-2017, 11:11 AM
As long as they're playing with their parents, I see nothing wrong with it! Lots of creeps in this game. Tg0 included!

Going to have to agree with this, we've had a handful of adults prey on underage players in the past. Just limit their involvement with the general population when they're not playing with you. And keep them off lnet.

That aside, we'd love to have you (and your kids) back in Elanthia! =)

Taernath
03-30-2017, 11:37 AM
Going to have to agree with this, we've had a handful of adults prey on underage players in the past. Just limit their involvement with the general population when they're not playing with you. And keep them off lnet.

I think they'd be fine in gen pop as long as you've talked with them and explained the general rules of the game (always IC, don't be a dick, etc) and the rules of the internet (don't reveal personal information, that elf chick isn't an elf chick IRL, etc). It's just a matter of education and trust.

Ashliana
03-30-2017, 11:38 AM
Granted, a kid starting today is going to have a vastly different experience in Gemstone since the population is an order of magnitude smaller, but I'm surprised people are erring so far on the cynical "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?" side.

How old were any of you when you started playing? And not only that, did your parents have the same kind of technical know-how that you do in 2017, or were you only armed with common sense and a few tidbits of advice?

There are like a million kids that age playing WoW, with access to the general/trade/etc channels, which have people flaming, arguing about Trump, etc., non-stop, and somehow there's been no surge of kidnappings, murders and kiddie dittling.

Teach your kids some common sense and give them the autonomy that you enjoyed as a kid.

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 11:41 AM
Granted, a kid starting today is going to have a vastly different experience in Gemstone since the population is an order of magnitude smaller, but I'm surprised people are erring so far on the cynical "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?" side.

How old were any of you when you started playing? And not only that, did your parents have the same kind of technical know-how that you do in 2017, or were you only armed with common sense and a few tidbits of advice?

There are like a million kids that age playing WoW, with access to the general/trade/etc channels, which have people flaming, arguing about Trump, etc., non-stop, and somehow there's been no surge of kidnappings, murders and kiddie dittling.

Teach your kids some common sense and give them the autonomy that you enjoyed as a kid.

I didn't start GS until my mid-20s. My parents had a thing about discouraging fantasy games yet had no issues with movies like Neverending Story or Legend (lolwut). I still have yet to play DnD.

Stolis
03-30-2017, 11:43 AM
that elf chick isn't an elf chick IRL.

You don't know that! She could be!

Androidpk
03-30-2017, 11:47 AM
I didn't start GS until my mid-20s. My parents had a thing about discouraging fantasy games yet had no issues with movies like Neverending Story or Legend (lolwut). I still have yet to play DnD.

Legend is the bomb!

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 11:49 AM
Legend is the bomb!

You quoted a typo! Supposed to say DISCOURAGING, lol.

Taernath
03-30-2017, 11:52 AM
I didn't start GS until my mid-20s. My parents had a thing about discouraging fantasy games yet had no issues with movies like Neverending Story or Legend (lolwut). I still have yet to play DnD.

Give it time. GS was the gateway game for my interest in DnD.

Before you know it you'll be mainlining 3rd level wizard spells.

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 11:56 AM
Give it time. GS was the gateway game for my interest in DnD.

Before you know it you'll be mainlining 3rd level wizard spells.

It's in the works for when I move to VA.

LivderaDeralleur
03-30-2017, 12:09 PM
I started playing GS when I was 12 and it was on AOL. I honestly don't remember if my mom had a 'talk' with me about safety on the internet - it was pretty new back then and I'd like to say I had enough common sense not to tell some rando my address. Bar being a complete twink at times with OOCness, I was alright.

I'd agree with others - explain the rules, etc. Maybe start them out without Lich at first and introduce it later? I'm not sure on that end as I can't/don't use Lich.

Androidpk
03-30-2017, 12:15 PM
I was never interested in DnD until I saw that youtube video of Vin Diesel playing it with his friends.

Stumplicker
03-30-2017, 12:26 PM
My mother didn't mind GS so much. I don't think she understood what it was. But she flipped out when I played Diablo. One two hour hysterical meltdown screaming about how it was a tool to turn me into a satanist later, I made her sit down and play it for 15 minutes. She never bothered me about video games again.

Gemstone's pretty tame as far as the internet goes. Not really a much safer corner to start your kids in. Give 'em the basic "Don't trust Nigerian Princes" and "Don't send naked pictures to Ariond" speech, and they should be just fine. Especially if you're playing with them. And of course as I said before, keep 'em off of LNet and these forums.

Gelston
03-30-2017, 12:28 PM
I made her sit down and play it for 15 minutes.

.....

phalen33
03-30-2017, 12:30 PM
I started around 12 myself as well. Between 12-15 I probably had a dozen relationships in game and cybered with them all. By 15 I was having phone sex with a 28 year old woman in Texas, and wanting to spend the summer with her. I remember that being a rather awkward conversation with my parents. They are going to explore sex in their own way sooner or later.. At least in GS no ones getting pregnant and they don't have the money for a plane ticket.

That being said I had my own computer in my room and would stay up till 2-3am on school nights. I would cut classes in high school to go home and play gemstone.. So time limits are important and computer in a common area would be best.

Also if they use the wizard front end you could turn auto logging on and have it backup to a network folder they only have write access to.. Not sure if SF has anything similar as I never made the switch.

I wonder if you could write a script that monitors for any key words like f..k and p..sy and then sends you an alert. Parental control for lich. Make a list of all locked rooms in the game and make a script that checks if the room number equals one on the list then start go2 and jump in a volcano or sign of hopelessness.

Stumplicker
03-30-2017, 12:30 PM
.....

You know, if you talk to people here like you would talk to another human being in real life, you might find it's not necessary to scrutinize each word of every sentence in the hopes of finding some flaw you can disagree with.

macgyver
03-30-2017, 12:39 PM
Get your kids guitar or piano lessons, way better value for your money there. Or get them to volunteer and/or learn a skill like making computers or drawing or whatever. Play one sport and be good at it.

Gemstone is a stupid time sync for lazy people who have some mediocre ambitionless job and ultimately settled in life. Not saying these people are losers but they could've been so much more.

phalen33
03-30-2017, 12:41 PM
Wow... Hate yourself much?

Gelston
03-30-2017, 12:43 PM
Wow... Hate yourself much?

Don't mind him, he is a troll.

macgyver
03-30-2017, 12:50 PM
Wow... Hate yourself much?

Nah, it's true. Just look around you, most of these guys are obese idlers stuck on their computers. Grinding a chunk of their lives away on text, think about what they could've achieved with 10,000 hours of active time. A degree or two? Climb K2 or Everest? Fuck a different woman on each continent?

Or... "tee hee guys I have my crit weighted super duper sword! it's altered to make it awesome! see it says right there!" They are grown adults who never quite grew out of childhood. You know the saying ,"... time to put away childish things."

tyrant-201
03-30-2017, 01:03 PM
Don't mind him, he is a troll.

QQ

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 01:10 PM
:lolwave:
Nah, it's true. Just look around you, most of these guys are obese idlers stuck on their computers. Grinding a chunk of their lives away on text, think about what they could've achieved with 10,000 hours of active time. A degree or two? Climb K2 or Everest? Fuck a different woman on each continent?

Or... "tee hee guys I have my crit weighted super duper sword! it's altered to make it awesome! see it says right there!" They are grown adults who never quite grew out of childhood. You know the saying ,"... time to put away childish things."

So... you're saying you could achieve more in life by leaving GS behind? :lolwave:

0zymandius
03-30-2017, 01:22 PM
Teach your kids some common sense and give them the autonomy that you enjoyed as a kid.

When they're a little older, sure. But 10 and 11 is too young, in our opinion (and for our kids in particular) to let them loose with unlimited freedoms in any sort of online environment. As they earn trust and show good judgment, things will open up to them. Until then, we're going to err on the side of caution.


Going to have to agree with this, we've had a handful of adults prey on underage players in the past. Just limit their involvement with the general population when they're not playing with you. And keep them off lnet.

That aside, we'd love to have you (and your kids) back in Elanthia! =)

Out of curiosity (since this is the sort of thing my wife is specifically worried about), what were the circumstances of 'preying' that you mentioned (just in general... pedophilic sorts? Identity theft? Credit card scams?) I don't need chapter and verse, just wondering what sorts of things have gone down in the past so we make sure and address those things ahead of time.

And thanks! We're definitely looking forward to a return, with or without the kids.


I feel like GS would definitely give him an avenue to roleplay and "be Harry Potter." I'd rather him do this than play FNAF. :thumbdown:

My younger boy LOVES that insanely stupid game. I detest it, but don't have any material reason to keep him from enjoying it... unfortunately.


Nah, it's true. Just look around you, most of these guys are obese idlers stuck on their computers. Grinding a chunk of their lives away on text, think about what they could've achieved with 10,000 hours of active time. A degree or two? Climb K2 or Everest? Fuck a different woman on each continent?

If I was thinking about funneling them into 10,000+ hours of forced GS labor, you might have a valid concern. We're pondering this as a pleasant occasional diversion which will secretly improve their typing skills, general computer knowledge, and online interaction with real people in a (mostly) supervised environment.

Thanks everyone for the responses. This is exactly what I was hoping for as we ponder this.

Savageheart
03-30-2017, 01:24 PM
Would you be comfortable with your children reading a Piers Anthony book for 2 Hours and then 50 Shades of Grey for 30 minutes every night?

Pretty sure that was the rough distribution of my time way way back when, once I got familiar with the world... :tumble:

Now aday its two hours of bullshitting on LNET and 30 minutes of killing Minotaurs.

All that being said I feel like Lich do make everything IC a little less social except in very established circles. Thus it will be less of an issue maybe? It could certainly be monitored

Unless your son wants to RP a Dwarf Female.... Them bearded ladies is all gas no breaks.

velderan
03-30-2017, 01:24 PM
It's in the works for when I move to VA.

My step-father runs a game for my son and his friends. In a normal setting, I'd join the group to play but I REALLY hate him, so I avoid him at all opportunities. But I'm sure there's an open spot for you to join if you wish, assuming your move to VA is anywhere near Richmond.

0zymandius
03-30-2017, 01:26 PM
assuming your move to VA is anywhere near Richmond.

Heh. We live about 20 minutes NE of Richmond.

Roiken
03-30-2017, 01:29 PM
I don't have any children, and this post isn't exactly about if you should let your children play. I like all of us started young and well because of gemstone I got to test out of having to spend a semester in typing class. I also feel that it helped improve my vocabulary.. Both things that are a benefit of potentially spending time playing a text game vrs something like Battlefield

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 01:35 PM
Heh. We live about 20 minutes NE of Richmond.

Hopewell here in a couple months.

velderan
03-30-2017, 01:36 PM
There's a LOT of GSers in VA overall, and a number within driving distance of Richmond. We should make a RL meetup for actual facetime and start a RPG group for DnD, or Pathfinder, or WoD or whatever other system people might want to play.

Androidpk
03-30-2017, 01:37 PM
There's a LOT of GSers in VA overall, and a number within driving distance of Richmond. We should make a RL meetup for actual facetime and start a RPG group for DnD, or Pathfinder, or WoD or whatever other system people might want to play.

No Gemstone LAN party?

velderan
03-30-2017, 01:38 PM
That sounds about the most boring-est thing of all the things.

Methais
03-30-2017, 02:06 PM
A lot of us started when we were kids/teenagers and look how we turned out.

https://media.giphy.com/media/jUwpNzg9IcyrK/giphy.gif

GS is family friendly as long as you don't mind things like racism, cults, explicitly described violence and gore, lonely middle aged women cybering everybody, gambling, etc. Honrable mention goes to LNet.

But hey you won't hear anyone bad words like shit or fuck, so it's totally kid friendly.

Ltlprprincess
03-30-2017, 02:08 PM
There's a LOT of GSers in VA overall, and a number within driving distance of Richmond. We should make a RL meetup for actual facetime and start a RPG group for DnD, or Pathfinder, or WoD or whatever other system people might want to play.

Some of us met up a couple weeks ago in Reston for pasta and beer. Good times were had. I'm totes down for a regular DnD night.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 02:14 PM
Get your kids guitar or piano lessons, way better value for your money there. Or get them to volunteer and/or learn a skill like making computers or drawing or whatever. Play one sport and be good at it.

Gemstone is a stupid time sync for lazy people who have some mediocre ambitionless job and ultimately settled in life. Not saying these people are losers but they could've been so much more.

macgyver, you used to be somewhat entertaining. Not on purpose, not like you said interesting shit, but just the sheer absurdity of your posts were good for a chuckle here and there.

Now you've jumped the shark and your posts aren't even so absurd they are slightly humorous, they're just absurd. And that makes me sad :( < ---- See?

macgyver
03-30-2017, 02:14 PM
Some of us met up a couple weeks ago in Reston for pasta and beer. Good times were had. I'm totes down for a regular DnD night.

I'll be there....

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/74/8f/09/748f0928ce9ed07245e83cb363bcc902.jpg

Are you jealous I'm younger and hotter than you?

Stolis
03-30-2017, 02:15 PM
If that girl's there, I'm looking for Chris Hansen around every corner.

Taernath
03-30-2017, 02:23 PM
GS is family friendly as long as you don't mind things like racism, cults, explicitly described violence and gore, lonely middle aged women cybering everybody, gambling, etc. Honrable mention goes to LNet.

But hey you won't hear anyone bad words like shit or fuck, so it's totally kid friendly.

That stuff is found in almost all works of fantasy though. The LOTR movies were PG-13, which is fairly similar to what I'd say GS is. Really, it's on the parents to decide what their kid is and isn't ready for.

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:24 PM
That stuff is found in almost all works of fantasy though. The LOTR movies were PG-13, which is fairly similar to what I'd say GS is. Really, it's on the parents to decide what their kid is and isn't ready for.

TURN IT UP TO GOT LEVEL

macgyver
03-30-2017, 02:25 PM
is the F word used in the GoT novels?

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:25 PM
is the F word used in the GoT novels?

No one likes you.

macgyver
03-30-2017, 02:29 PM
No one likes you.

But you told me you loved me that's why I let you cum on me baby... :(

Methais
03-30-2017, 02:30 PM
That stuff is found in almost all works of fantasy though. The LOTR movies were PG-13, which is fairly similar to what I'd say GS is. Really, it's on the parents to decide what their kid is and isn't ready for.

A movie also has zero user interaction.

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:30 PM
A movie also has zero user interaction.

Lies, you can manipulate the menu screen.

Taernath
03-30-2017, 02:33 PM
A movie also has zero user interaction.

"online interactions not rated by the ESRB"

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:34 PM
"online interactions not rated by the ESRB"

WRONG RATINGS BOARD FOR MOVIES GUY

Taernath
03-30-2017, 02:35 PM
WRONG RATINGS BOARD FOR MOVIES GUY

THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT GEMSTONE GUY

GEMSTONE IS A GAME GUY

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:36 PM
THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT GEMSTONE GUY

GEMSTONE IS A GAME GUY

YOU RESPONDED TO A QUOTE TALKING ABOUT MOVIES GUY

Taernath
03-30-2017, 02:38 PM
YOU RESPONDED TO A QUOTE TALKING ABOUT MOVIES GUY

I USED LOTR ONLY AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I THOUGHT GEMSTONE WOULD BE RATED GUY

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:40 PM
I USED LOTR ONLY AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I THOUGHT GEMSTONE WOULD BE RATED GUY

THE DIRECTOR'S EXTENDED EDITION ISN'T RATED GUY

Androidpk
03-30-2017, 02:45 PM
A movie also has zero user interaction.

you've clearly never watched a porn

Gelston
03-30-2017, 02:46 PM
Wikipedia's article on the ESRB:

"Mature content" redirects here. For other uses, see Pornography.

Astray
03-30-2017, 03:26 PM
So... no more orgies in the ratacombs?

Gelston
03-30-2017, 03:27 PM
So... no more orgies in the ratacombs?

There still are, you just have to join a TD party. You think those people were really grouping up to hunt some crappy Thyrils?

Astray
03-30-2017, 03:28 PM
There still are, you just have to join a TD party. You think those people were really grouping up to hunt some crappy Thyrils?

Oh shiiiiiiit. It all makes total sense.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 03:28 PM
Who wants to have a 12-way with my characters?

Gelston
03-30-2017, 03:29 PM
Who wants to have a 12-way with my characters?

Macguyver has about 12 PC accounts that he'll hook with you on.

Methais
03-30-2017, 03:36 PM
"online interactions not rated by the ESRB"

I wasn't aware that this thread was the ESRB.

My bad.

saturn101
03-30-2017, 04:01 PM
Who wants to have a 12-way with my characters?

I had a dream the other night artwork was stolen from my home and you tracked down the thief and got it back for me, so I am willing to accommodate your 12-way request.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 04:12 PM
I had a dream the other night artwork was stolen from my home and you tracked down the thief and got it back for me, so I am willing to accommodate your 12-way request.

:O

Astray
03-30-2017, 04:13 PM
wut

Trump
03-30-2017, 05:57 PM
This thread alone should give you an idea on how this is not such a good idea.

0zymandius
03-30-2017, 06:32 PM
This thread alone should give you an idea on how this is not such a good idea.

Clearly I would never let anyone or anything I cared about be exposed to the PC, Mr. President.

Astray
03-30-2017, 06:39 PM
Clearly I would never let anyone or anything I cared about be exposed to the PC, Mr. President.

Hey, fuck you, we're great.

Geijon Khyree
03-30-2017, 07:06 PM
I started around 12 myself as well. Between 12-15 I probably had a dozen relationships in game and cybered with them all. By 15 I was having phone sex with a 28 year old woman in Texas, and wanting to spend the summer with her. I remember that being a rather awkward conversation with my parents. They are going to explore sex in their own way sooner or later.. At least in GS no ones getting pregnant and they don't have the money for a plane ticket.

That being said I had my own computer in my room and would stay up till 2-3am on school nights. I would cut classes in high school to go home and play gemstone.. So time limits are important and computer in a common area would be best.

Also if they use the wizard front end you could turn auto logging on and have it backup to a network folder they only have write access to.. Not sure if SF has anything similar as I never made the switch.

I wonder if you could write a script that monitors for any key words like f..k and p..sy and then sends you an alert. Parental control for lich. Make a list of all locked rooms in the game and make a script that checks if the room number equals one on the list then start go2 and jump in a volcano or sign of hopelessness.


Hence my age comment. Especially the late nights. Even with parental monitoring it can go south fast.

Tgo01
03-30-2017, 07:32 PM
If someone starts harassing your kids in game just download my ;squelch script for them, enter the person's name in the setup menu, and watch as they disappear!

0zymandius
05-15-2017, 08:44 AM
Hey all. Kids got started over the weekend, and since there was some interest in how things progressed, I wanted to provide an update. However, I don't want to spam the 'recent updates', considering that by a pretty HUGE margin none of you care, so this will be my single bump to let people know that I'm doing a simple little blog (address in my signature) wherein I'll include updates about how they're doing on a semi-daily basis. Thanks everyone for the tips and insight (and the ;squelch script... which hasn't been needed yet but is very welcome as a tool).