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Gan
05-26-2005, 01:54 PM
Anyone have the optimal ranks necessary for empaths to maximize gains in healing as well as spell flaring, fogging, etc?

I did a quick search but did not see all the lores listed with ranks.

I know about the 48 ranks necessary for a capped empath not to have hard rt for healing... what about the others?

Spirit lores and what they affect:
blessing (?)
religion (?)
spirit summoning (spirit servant 218?)

Mental lores and what they affect:
divination (?)
manipulation (spell effects and flares?)
telepathy (?)
transfernce (fogging?)
transformation (healing rt)


Any idea will help.

Miss X
05-26-2005, 01:56 PM
Ooooh, this would be really useful info for me too if someone has it. :)

Czeska
05-26-2005, 02:09 PM
Lores I find most useful:

Transformation (keeping down healing RT, etc.)

Summoning for extra cycles of 111. (I only have 2 ranks and can hit like 5 things with no problem)

Telepathy (5 ranks for an extra CS cycle on 1110)


Manip. for the bone shatter damage (although I can't offer specifics).

Transference lore doesn't affect a single thing that empaths do, to my knowledge.

Also, by taking wounds via point and click in SF I have 0 RT for healing someone else.

[Edited on 5-26-2005 by Czeska]

Kriterian
10-01-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Czeska
Lores I find most useful:

Transformation (keeping down healing RT, etc.)

Summoning for extra cycles of 111. (I only have 2 ranks and can hit like 5 things with no problem)

Telepathy (5 ranks for an extra CS cycle on 1110)


Manip. for the bone shatter damage (although I can't offer specifics).

Transference lore doesn't affect a single thing that empaths do, to my knowledge.

Also, by taking wounds via point and click in SF I have 0 RT for healing someone else.

[Edited on 5-26-2005 by Czeska]

I know the Transformation affects RT, I can see that when I train but I've only done Transformation, Manipulation and Telepathy and my 111 is hitting multiple creatures. Anyone know for sure what causes 111 to flare out?

Gan
10-01-2005, 05:40 PM
I've been told Telepathy for flares... at lvl 100 with the following lore training I have the following:

1. no healing rt for any wound or scar
2. using 111 I can flare to 3 to 4 other targets than the primary
3. 2 additional cycles on 1110


skillz:
Spirit Mana Control................| 145 45
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 150 50
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 50 10
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 148 48

Axhinde
10-01-2005, 05:42 PM
I thought Spiritual Lore, Summoning affected how many targets 111 affects.

Gan
10-01-2005, 05:45 PM
Perhaps it is summoning... I wonder why I can flare and have no training in it though. hmmmmmmm.

Finding a definitive answer on these lore questions would be nice.

Czeska
10-01-2005, 05:48 PM
Summoning for 111, yes. I can flare 4 or 5 times with only 2 ranks.

Also, 20 ranks of telep. for 4 cycles on 1110.

Axhinde
10-01-2005, 05:53 PM
Thing about the ball spell flares is for the most part it is random, lores only serve to increase maximum number of targets. Yes, you can hit 4 or 5 critters with only 2 ranks but the chances of doing that consistently are slim, whereas if you had a higher maximum number of targets you'd see it more often. The maximum targets you can hit is 19, but requires 200 ranks of Summoning lore. Virilneus I believe had 100 ranks of summoning lore and hunted with 111 as a sorcerer, and it was scary. He'd hit a ton of critters every cast, with the occasional 1 or 2 critter hit.

Gan
10-01-2005, 05:55 PM
Sweet, then I can push 10 more ranks of telepathy, and add a few summoning to see if it enhances my 111 flares even more.

I love walking into a room full of Ithzir and bolting 111 at the easiest target and watching it stun everything in the room but constructs and griffens. Allows for avoiding the MOC DS pushdown and lets me concentrate on the griffen(s) first. Adding 2 more cycles of 1110 onto the griffens will almost be like fire and forget when dealing with them.

Czeska
10-01-2005, 06:07 PM
1110 is nice in swarms, I used it a lot on teras for fire-immune critters.