Vaalorn Claidhmore

[Thondalar]

Just what the title says.

Normal Vaalorn properties, +18 and what not...except, of course, for the fact that it is a claidhmore made of Vaalorn.

But wait, there's more!

The claidhmore resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
It provides a bonus of 8 to Stalking and Hiding Bonus.
This enhancement may not be used by adventurers who have not trained 15 times.
The claidhmore looks to have more than your average giantman could count charges remaining.

But wait, there's more!

The first thing that strikes you about the claidhmore is the weight, which is about 7 pounds.


Also, as far as I know, only the 2nd Vaalorn claid in GS. I may have missed one.

MB: 35m

CB: 0

[allen]

Old or new style?

[Gelston]

Did Vaalorn even exist when claidhmores didn't have their own base? Maybe it was just very rare before EN opened, because I don't really remember it before then.

[Ltlprprincess]

Reconsidered. Maybe if it wouldn't make me go broke.

[Menos]

I know eahnor did, so I suspect Vaalorn as well (even though it didn't get used very much). The enhansive is what gives it away as newer though.


Did Vaalorn even exist when claidhmores didn't have their own base? Maybe it was just very rare before EN opened, because I don't really remember it before then.

[Ardwen]

Man such a nice find with a totally odd enhancive, are there any claid ambushing elves in Vaalor?

Most of the elven materials and cultural items pre-date the nations in some amount since the lore existed well before the expansion

[Ltlprprincess]

Man such a nice find with a totally odd enhancive, are there any claid ambushing elves in Vaalor?

Most of the elven materials and cultural items pre-date the nations in some amount since the lore existed well before the expansion

I have a warrior who would love this... but unfortunately not for the price currently. If I had more silvers to spare, sure.

[Gnomad]

Man such a nice find with a totally odd enhancive, are there any claid ambushing elves in Vaalor?


I have a warrior who would love this... but unfortunately not for the price currently. If I had more silvers to spare, sure.
^^^

My vaalor elf is getting enough OHKOs with a maul that's so bad, when ltlprprincess's bard jacked it to sing to, she said, "That's it?"

Hard to justify the faenor claidh that's sitting in a locker, let alone paying 33 mil more for the extra 10 AS (and style).

[Thondalar]

I have a warrior who would love this... but unfortunately not for the price currently. If I had more silvers to spare, sure.

Silvers are cheap right now.

[Ltlprprincess]

Silvers are cheap right now.

It's extremely rare I buy silvers as I kind of need my real life money for real life things.

[Androidpk]

It's extremely rare I buy silvers as I kind of need my real life money for real life things.

Gemstone is a real life thing!

[Ltlprprincess]

My car payment begs to differ.

[Thondalar]

Wow, no interest, huh? Alright, then...back in the locker it goes.

The only other Vaalorn claid I know of is one that went out from a premium raffle, which I won...it was all fancy GM altered and looked really pretty. I think I sold it for 42m, and that was back when silvers were worth more.

Ah well, is what it is...it is still technically "available", but I'm withdrawing it from this thread as of right now.

If someone has need for such an item in the future, lemme know...I'm always up for decent trades as well, don't forget. I'd also take a cash offer for it, but at 8 per.

[Androidpk]

Wow, no interest, huh? Alright, then...back in the locker it goes.

The only other Vaalorn claid I know of is one that went out from a premium raffle, which I won...it was all fancy GM altered and looked really pretty. I think I sold it for 42m, and that was back when silvers were worth more.

Ah well, is what it is...it is still technically "available", but I'm withdrawing it from this thread as of right now.

If someone has need for such an item in the future, lemme know...I'm always up for decent trades as well, don't forget. I'd also take a cash offer for it, but at 8 per.

High MB for a +18 when +15 claids are selling for 10m or so.

[Menos]

I don't think it should be so shocking. I have plenty of interest, just not at that price. Claidhmores in general are much lower these days with them dropping in hunting and of course duskruin. Just looking at the flat price folder, the last two ora claids went for 3mil and 4mil with an imflass failing to sell for 4.5mil (highest offer was 4). Enchanted claids are simply being added faster than people who want to use them. Vaalorn is a nice elven metal, but 9 times the price for one more enchant is just too much for me to go.

Edit to add: Aniplex beat me to it by a few moments.

[Thondalar]

I don't think it should be so shocking. I have plenty of interest, just not at that price. Claidhmores in general are much lower these days with them dropping in hunting and of course duskruin. Just looking at the flat price folder, the last two ora claids went for 3mil and 4mil with an imflass failing to sell for 4.5mil (highest offer was 4). Enchanted claids are simply being added faster than people who want to use them. Vaalorn is a nice elven metal, but 9 times the price for one more enchant is just too much for me to go.

Edit to add: Aniplex beat me to it by a few moments.

While that is true for 1x and 2x claids, there aren't more 4x claids out. That's the price difference.

While we can look at it and go "does the extra justify the cost?"...When has that ever happened in the history of GS? People always pay a premium for the best, even if it is only a couple points.

[Thondalar]

Regardless, I'm pulling this sale for now. If someone would like to make me an offer of coins, silvers, or trade, I'd be all ears.

[Thondalar]

High MB for a +18 when +15 claids are selling for 10m or so.

Things sell for "less than they should" all the time. With that being said, I did a fair bit of research before I posted this one...although I was primarily looking for other 4x claids, I feel like I would have noticed some 3x being sold. Apparently I missed something...got a link for me?

[Androidpk]

Yes technically speaking it's a 4x claid but it's also +18 and not +20.

[Ardwen]

I have no issue with the pricing here, enhancive 4x cliads aren't what you'd call common, lrt alone a useful one. There is only one negative here to me, its new style, old style 4x claids are much more salable. But I feel this price is not at all unreasonable.

[Androidpk]

Edit to add: Aniplex beat me to it by a few moments.

What the heck is an Aniplex

[Astray]

What the heck is an Aniplex

An anime company.

[Menos]

3x claid with no bids at 10mil
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?93482-High-End-Ithzir-Armor-3x-Claid-Longcoat-Pouches/page3

3x max light claid listed for 13 with no buyer.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?104309-1-200-cloak-3x-claid-7x-blessable-perfect-greataxe

Edit to add, these are the most recent ones I could find. May be others, but I didn't want to search that much. :)


Things sell for "less than they should" all the time. With that being said, I did a fair bit of research before I posted this one...although I was primarily looking for other 4x claids, I feel like I would have noticed some 3x being sold. Apparently I missed something...got a link for me?

[Menos]

An anime company.

Yeah, every time I see your name it reminds me of their intro screen. I know they're not related, but it still does. I posted the video in one of your threads once.

[Astray]

Yeah, every time I see your name it reminds me of their intro screen. I know they're not related, but it still does. I posted the video in one of your threads once.

That makes no sense. Also, which thread?

[Menos]

They say it funny. It works in my mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH9Vf-Y9i34

[Astray]

Meh. That's all I can give you at this time.

[Thondalar]

3x claid with no bids at 10mil
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?93482-High-End-Ithzir-Armor-3x-Claid-Longcoat-Pouches/page3

3x max light claid listed for 13 with no buyer.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?104309-1-200-cloak-3x-claid-7x-blessable-perfect-greataxe

Edit to add, these are the most recent ones I could find. May be others, but I didn't want to search that much. :)


So the "Most recent" you could find for 3x claids for sale...the first thread was 3 years ago, the 2nd was last year but was only up for a couple days before it was pulled...


Only other 4x claid for sale currently is the ensorcelled one going for upwards of 60m, and that is certainly a special case.

Is what it is. I've got it, if someone wants it, gimme a thought.

[Menos]

Well. One was over two years ago (before the full glut of drops from duskruin) and had no takers at 10mil. The second was 5 months ago and not pulled, it was only lowered in price from 14 to 13.


So the "Most recent" you could find for 3x claids for sale...the first thread was 3 years ago, the 2nd was last year but was only up for a couple days before it was pulled...

[Thondalar]

Well. One was over two years ago (before the full glut of drops from duskruin) and had no takers at 10mil. The second was 5 months ago and not pulled, it was only lowered in price from 14 to 13.

If that many 3x+ dropped from Duskruin, wouldn't one of them be for sale?

The second one might not necessarily have been stated as being pulled, but there certainly hasn't been any update on the thread one way or the other.

Point is, neither of those are 4x claids, and that's the best you can come up with for even 3x claids.

[Menos]

You asked for links to 3x claids @10mil (the example someone else posted), so that is what I was looking for. I did not intend to imply that there are thousands of 3x claids raining from the skies. Rather, we have more claidhmores relative to demand than when they went for vast sums of silvers. That is why an imflass claid which may have once sold for 20 million now has no takers at 4.5. I think it makes sense that if someone can buy a +10 claid for 3 or 4 million, it is harder to sell a +18 claid for 35. It was those examples I was thinking of when I made my comments, which is why I used them in my post.

There is absolutely a premium for each additional enchant, but I do not think it is quite so exponential. I also think the bid history here sort of shows that in a very recent example.

Also, drop the bullshit about "no updates in months" being anything remotely like "pulled within a couple of days".


If that many 3x+ dropped from Duskruin, wouldn't one of them be for sale?

The second one might not necessarily have been stated as being pulled, but there certainly hasn't been any update on the thread one way or the other.

Point is, neither of those are 4x claids, and that's the best you can come up with for even 3x claids.

[Thondalar]

You asked for links to 3x claids @10mil (the example someone else posted), so that is what I was looking for. I did not intend to imply that there are thousands of 3x claids raining from the skies. Rather, we have more claidhmores relative to demand than when they went for vast sums of silvers. That is why an imflass claid which may have once sold for 20 million now has no takers at 4.5. I think it makes sense that if someone can buy a +10 claid for 3 or 4 million, it is harder to sell a +18 claid for 35. It was those examples I was thinking of when I made my comments, which is why I used them in my post.

There is absolutely a premium for each additional enchant, but I do not think it is quite so exponential. I think the bid history here sort of shows that in a very recent example.

Also, drop the bullshit about "no updates in months" being anything remotely like "pulled within a couple of days".

This really doesn't have to be difficult, and I'm not trying to be confrontational. The facts are entirely on my side...while a plethora of 1 and 2x claids have come out from recent events, there has not been a glut of 4x, or even 3x claids, enough for me to think the price should come down any. While there are two old posts containing items that didn't seem to "sell", we don't know what happened in private. Both posts just kind of faded out with no resolution either way. I'd tend to go with the likelihood that they were resolved otherwise, and the OP just didn't update, since there have been no others for sale since.

Despite that, I'm selling this current Vaalorn Claid for 7 mill less than the first Vaalorn Claid I sold. Ardwen and others have expressed their opinion that this is not an unreasonable price. If you think it is, that's great...all I asked for was some sort of current market equivalent, because apparently I missed something during MY market research. As far as I can tell, the only other 4x claid currently on the market is going for 60m+, but it is ensorcelled. I'm asking for roughly half that for a non-ensorcelled...I've not found anything else to compare it to, price-wise, in the last year, that would make me think that is anything other than a fair price.

Regardless...I've got it, someone is going to want it. I appreciate the free advertising you guys are doing for me by bumping this thread.

[Luntz]

I've sold no less than 5 4x claids in the last year, iorake, two shaalk and two vultite that I can remember, all for 30-40mil. I'd say the rarity of the metal matters but 35mil seems a bit high for my tastes, I could see a mb of 25mil for example. Then again with how uncommon Vaalorn claids are, I can see 30+.

But it's your item and it's nice as hell, I can understand setting it high.

[Merlic14]

For what it's worth... BLZrizz's: 3x max light glaes (6 lbs) "a jagged glaes claidhmore" with show. Sold @12 mil. It was posted as that for a couple days I believe. I eyed it for a bit then bought a +12 imflass claid for 5 mil from a WL player shop... then decided I'm respec'ing to OHB/shield.

I realize this is mostly useless information but I was BORED

[Thondalar]

For what it's worth... BLZrizz's: 3x max light glaes (6 lbs) "a jagged glaes claidhmore" with show. Sold @12 mil. It was posted as that for a couple days I believe. I eyed it for a bit then bought a +12 imflass claid for 5 mil from a WL player shop... then decided I'm respec'ing to OHB/shield.

I realize this is mostly useless information but I was BORED


Not at all, goes more to my point. Unique-ish items sell depending on the marketing more than the market...although, in this case, I've got both.

Perfect example was a maxed out, fully unlocked, epic deep spider bag I sold a while back...I posted it for what I thought was a reasonable price, but it sat and sat...dropped the price a bit, it still sat and sat...dropped the price again, made it flat priced...still sat. Right as I was about to pull it and stick it on an alt to use, someone popped up and bought it...and expressed how they'd been looking for such a thing for a while, and couldn't believe they got it so cheap.

I still haven't had anyone come up with a 4x claid for sale, besides Luntz, who apparently does private sales. Even he admitted I wasn't completely out of line.

[Thondalar]

Regardless, I've got an enhancive Vaalorn claid. I'm asking 35m silvers or trades, or cash at 8/per MB. Anyone that knows me or has ever dealt with me (including you, Menos), knows that I'm always up for a negotiation.

If you don't want it, I really don't need any more comments. I think we've pretty much settled this one out as far as that goes.

[Jhynnifer]

I'll trade you a belly gem for it. =D =D =D

[Thondalar]

I'll trade you a belly gem for it. =D =D =D

Was gonna get creepy on the response to that one, so I'll just leave it alone.

[drauz]

Regardless, I've got an enhancive Vaalorn claid. I'm asking 35m silvers or trades, or cash at 8/per MB. Anyone that knows me or has ever dealt with me (including you, Menos), knows that I'm always up for a negotiation.

If you don't want it, I really don't need any more comments. I think we've pretty much settled this one out as far as that goes.

To be fair, you have a enhancive claidhmore. The problem I see is that it is S&H enhancive. I know my warrior would give exactly 2 shits for that enhancive. Its not like its THW or dodging or something even remotely useful. You have a vaalorn claidhmore, which is very nice, but I wouldn't add much if any value from the enhancive.

[Alashir]

My 6x blink claid barely went for 150

[time4fun]

My 6x blink claid barely went for 150

I would buy that thing so fast if it came up for sale again.

[Androidpk]

If you don't want it, I really don't need any more comments. I think we've pretty much settled this one out as far as that goes.

Someone sure is sensitive!

[Thondalar]

To be fair, you have a enhancive claidhmore. The problem I see is that it is S&H enhancive. I know my warrior would give exactly 2 shits for that enhancive. Its not like its THW or dodging or something even remotely useful. You have a vaalorn claidhmore, which is very nice, but I wouldn't add much if any value from the enhancive.

Some warriors like to think they're rogues, this would help them.

Regardless, it is a 4x claid. A 4x Vaalorn claid. The fact it has any enhancive at all, and the fact it is lightened a great deal, those are just bonuses. If it was a zero enhancive, stock-weight Vaalorn claid, the price would be the same....7m less than the last (and only other, to my knowledge) Vaalorn claid I've sold...and 25m less than the only other 4x claid currently listed on PC, although that one is certainly a bit more special.

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

If you DO want it, send me a message. I'm open to nearly any sort of offer on it, be it cash or silver or trade.

[Thondalar]

My 6x blink claid barely went for 150

That's like saying I'm selling a suit of 7x HCP brig for 40m, and your 10x hcp resistant brig went for 150.

Yep. Sounds about right.

[drauz]

Some warriors like to think they're rogues, this would help them.

Regardless, it is a 4x claid. A 4x Vaalorn claid. The fact it has any enhancive at all, and the fact it is lightened a great deal, those are just bonuses. If it was a zero enhancive, stock-weight Vaalorn claid, the price would be the same....7m less than the last (and only other, to my knowledge) Vaalorn claid I've sold...and 25m less than the only other 4x claid currently listed on PC, although that one is certainly a bit more special.

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

If you DO want it, send me a message. I'm open to nearly any sort of offer on it, be it cash or silver or trade.

I know some people care about the metal, but I would rather just get a full 4x for the same price.

[Thondalar]

Sure, find one.

[drauz]

Sure, find one.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?93744-a-molten-glaes-claidhmore-3x-newstyle-3-THW-11-PT-5-max-mana-MB-33m&highlight=claidhmore

+18 ultimately and more enhansives that are useful. It couldn't even sell at 15m. Though the upkeep is obviously more, it is ultimately a superior weapon. Maybe it sold and he just never updated the page though.

[time4fun]

That's like saying I'm selling a suit of 7x HCP brig for 40m, and your 10x hcp resistant brig went for 150.

Yep. Sounds about right.

Thond honey, your price is way off. Sorry. Just lower the MB or keep the weapon.

[Gelston]

I think he has heard enough of yall telling him he is pricing it too high. His item, It'll either sell for what he wants or it won't.

[Ceyrin]

I think it would probably sell better with a Ronan alter.

[Thondalar]

Thond honey, your price is way off. Sorry. Just lower the MB or keep the weapon.

Ardwen and Zaoloo have said it is not.


Oh, shit.

[Thondalar]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?93744-a-molten-glaes-claidhmore-3x-newstyle-3-THW-11-PT-5-max-mana-MB-33m&highlight=claidhmore

+18 ultimately and more enhansives that are useful. It couldn't even sell at 15m. Though the upkeep is obviously more, it is ultimately a superior weapon. Maybe it sold and he just never updated the page though.

That was over 2 years ago, pretty sure he sold it. I'd like to see something more recent.

[Goat]

That was over 2 years ago, pretty sure he sold it. I'd like to see something more recent.

Yeah, we all know IW never lets sales drag on for that long.

[Thondalar]

To clear the air a bit, this item is still for sale if anyone is interested, I'm just removing it from auction.

While I'd LIKE to get 35m for it, cash, silver, or trade...I'm open to offers.

If anyone wants it, let me know...quite positive we can work something out, if you're in that ballpark.

[Thondalar]

This claid is now sold...for the original asking price, I might add.

[allen]

This claid is now sold...for the original asking price, I might add.

Prove it! Kidding.. congrats!

[gfrenk]

this still for sale?

[Haldrik]

Fuck your necro bump.

Also, this is a cool claidhmore. Where did it come from? I wonder if the enhancive can be spired to something more useful.