Some armor questions for a leveling warrior

[Jayvn]

I've gone through wikis and they sort of give me half the info I'm looking for but if anyone knows yes/nos and can break down the formulas for me it'd be appreciated.

So I know my eventual goal would be full plate probably padding (don't know if crit or damage even matters once you're in fulls? if it becomes preference or if crit is superior always?)

So as I'm coming up to the choice of Chain haub or Mbp. I understand in Mbp the torso gets the AG coverage crit whatnot of plate armor, the rest uncovered would still count as Chain haub asg. My question is in regards to infused armors or padded even. Would crit padded Chain haub be more effective than MBP with really any traits? Infused MBP would only flare if hit in the chest (Area covered) correct? whereas the Haub would flare on any body part? How much crit padding is the equiv of moving up to the next AG chain-plate. I get a shitload of minor taps on me in camps and figure it'd be great if even a fraction of those were spitting back at the grimswarm.

It's not super vital since I'll eventually outtrain it and move on but there's some basic info like that I'd like to understand better since I'm playing a warrior full time now.

I also see redux is really really diff now as far as primary is just PF now. I get the formula to figure out if you're getting Redux but not the one beyond that or how the reduction maths actually work out.

Berserking with a faenor claid/major bane through warcamps is just a sheer fucking bloodbath of fun. =D

Thanks for any answers or deeper info than the wikis put out.

[gilchristr]

You can't do metal breastplate, basically, if you have armor accessories that you like (good enchancive greaves, helmet, or aventail). Do you have ones of those you dont want to give up? If so, stop right there, you gotta use the hauberk

[Jayvn]

No I don't have any accessories that I give a shit about. It was more a question of infused mbp vs infused haub. one covers all, one is a higher AG but only covers torso (and counts the rest as still covered by all of the previous asg) but as far as reactive flares go. They flare when you get hit anywhere on the body if you're covered head to toe (Flaring haub) right? and only if you get a chest hit in the mbp? Don't even know if I'm gonna waste any real silvers on the in between armors.

Kind of what's the equiv of full plate as far as padded hauberk..like what level of padding would it take to match the crit/damage reduction from plate. I'm currently in Aug chain and it's amazing compared to having played a wizard so long in doubles/or reinf... my old siren scales didn't seem to do shit compared to just this basic ass Aug chain right now as far as endrolls not stunning me or even leaving a mark just taking some health

[Tyronebiggums]

I wouldn't know crit padding numbers vs. increased asg, but my piece of advice would be not to spend anything on those armors. I think I was in vultite mbp asap with 3x armor, and just rolled with that till full plate.

[Axhinde]

Heavy crit padding hauberk would be the closest to unpadded plate I believe, but even then...depending on the weapon and endroll the unpadded plate will be better especially against bigger weapons.

According to GSWiki, and endroll of 290 with a maul would result in a rank 6 crit on HCP hauberk, 5 on unpadded plate, and 4 on HCP plate.

https://gswiki.play.net/Padding

[Warriorbird]

MBP for crit divisor. Full plate ASAP.

[Donquix]

It's not just the crit divisor, it's also the CvA.

an additional 12 off endroll for all CS attacks is classified as 'real, real nice', in technical terms.

[Beniah]

You can't do metal breastplate, basically, if you have armor accessories that you like (good enchancive greaves, helmet, or aventail). Do you have ones of those you dont want to give up? If so, stop right there, you gotta use the hauberk

Why would a warrior ever wear hauberk over MBP when they require the same amount of training?
Aren't you getting the same coverage with MBP on limbs and head as you would with chain anyway?

[gilchristr]

If you use metal breastplate, you are basically completely giving up two inventory slots - arms and legs, and limiting third and fourth inventory slots (head/neck) to jewelry.

So when you see that aweseome enhancive arm worn or leg worn, you can't have that.

When you see that awesome arm or leg worn that gives you 20% damage resistance, which I think stacks with any damage resistance your base armor has, you can't have that.

When you see that awesome crush resistance aventail, which again I think can stack with any resistance on your base armor, or temp masterfully crit padded greathelm, you cant have that with metal breastplate.

Its all about opportunity cost. If the extra DF and crit divisor is worth the opportunity cost of partial armor, then by all means. Just dont forget to consider it. I think partial armors suck pretty bad under current implementation. Should be better.

PS - I have collected for different characters +5 dex bonus leg greaves, +16 total stat agi/dex neck armor, +4 str bonus leg greaves, +4 str bonus and +6 weapon bonus arm greaves, +4 dex bonus temp masterfully crit padded greathelm. Some of it gives me flares. Some of it gives me spikes and flares with CMANs. A bunch of really nice stuff, none of which is compatible with trying to use partial armor. Again, if you dont have any good items or any hope to acquire them, then you are not exposed to that opportunity cost. Hope this helps, obviously full plate doesnt have these problems, only partial armor.

[Beniah]

Interesting, although I tend to think most warriors not ready for plate don't have much in the way of enhancives. I'm thinking more for a warrior levelling up and not ready for plate. So get into the MBP unless you have those enhancives.
Sounds like a serious game flaw. Shouldn't it be reversed? Seems like armor groups have always been flawed one way or another in GS.

[gilchristr]

Yes, its especially dumb that the platform for say spikes and flares usable for say a CMAN force you into a subset of the armor classes. When I used to use sweep a lot, I quickly realized that to get the spikes and flares I was basically SOL on partial armor. Thats not even counting the potential for enhancives and damage resistance.

[Archigeek]

It's not just the crit divisor, it's also the CvA.

an additional 12 off endroll for all CS attacks is classified as 'real, real nice', in technical terms.

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