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ClydeR
01-20-2017, 01:57 PM
Since the Great Depression in the 1930s, Free Trade has mostly been the policy of Presidents and Congress. In the early years of this time period, Free Trade was mostly championed by Democrats. In more recent years, it has been more strongly championed by Republicans. There has been no real push for Protectionism by either party until now. As far as I can tell, Trump is the only prominent elected Republican pushing for Protectionism. Most Republican leaders, deeply rooted in Reagan's vision of Free Trade, reject all hints of Protectionism.

Trump devoted more of his inaugural address to Protectionism than to any other subject, and he wasn't subtle about it either. Will Trump be able to sway his party?



We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, un every foreign capital, in every hall of power- from this day on a new vision will govern our land- from this day onwards it is only going to be America first- America first!

Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit American workers and American families.

Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength. I will fight for you with every bone in my body and I will never ever let you down.

More... (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-inauguration-speech-transcript-text-full-read-a7538131.html)

ClydeR
01-26-2017, 03:58 PM
(CNN)President Donald Trump has decided he will seek to pay for the wall on the US's southern border by imposing a 20% tax on imports from Mexico and as part of a larger comprehensive tax reform plan, the White House said Thursday.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the comprehensive tax reform package Trump and Republicans are looking to put together will include taxing imports from other countries, like Mexico.

"By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding," Spicer said, referring to a 20% tax. According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, Mexico's exports to the US in 2015 was valued at $316.4 billion. The trade deficit is estimated to be $50 billion.

More... (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/donald-trump-mexico-import-tax-border-wall/index.html)


Congress will not impose a flat 20% tariff, even if it is disguised as a mechanism to fight illegal immigration. Trump would need to create a huge public outcry against illegal immigration to move Congress to pass a protectionist tariff. His recent executive order (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united) aimed at sanctuary cities may be designed to create such a public outcry. The order includes a requirement for frequent reports of crimes committed by illegal aliens.

Ardwen
01-26-2017, 04:01 PM
20 percent tax on all goods from Mexico would devastate a lot of low income and middle income American families, single largest import from Mexico is oil, how is it that he whines about autos and never about the oil industry.

Neveragain
01-26-2017, 04:52 PM
20 percent tax on all goods from Mexico would devastate a lot of low income and middle income American families, single largest import from Mexico is oil, how is it that he whines about autos and never about the oil industry.

So we agree that we need to tap into our own resources rather than ravaging third world countries?

Oil derricks are OK in Mexico just not your back yard?

Ardwen
01-26-2017, 05:05 PM
actually thats not what I said but interpret as you will

Neveragain
01-26-2017, 05:13 PM
actually thats not what I said but interpret as you will

I'm just finding it awfully curious that a Democrat has ever worried about taxes hurting the poor. Or a tax decreasing the flow of petroleum, I thought they were all for taxing oil to reduce the usage like not just two months ago?

I do know I had better start hording chiclets and turquoise.

Thondalar
01-26-2017, 07:01 PM
20 percent tax on all goods from Mexico would devastate a lot of low income and middle income American families, single largest import from Mexico is oil, how is it that he whines about autos and never about the oil industry.

With the completion of Keystone and Dakota we probably won't need to buy crude from Mexico anymore...they're already only a small fraction of our oil imports. MOST of our supply is home-grown, and we get almost all of the rest of it from Canada...after that we get about 18% (imports, now) from OPEC countries (including Venezuela, which I can't understand for the life of me), and then a comparatively few drops from Mexico. I don't see that affecting the overall price for US citizens at the tank much, if any.

While oil is the largest single item on the trade list, it accounts for only about 10% of Mexico's total imports to the US...the vast majority of the rest of it is cars, car parts, computers, and computer parts...most of which are US companies exploiting cheap Mexican labor.

Here's what I want to see, and something that you loony lefties should get behind...stop all imports from other Countries unless they prove their workers have the same workplace safety regulations, relative wages, retirement and healthcare benefits as US workers.



The US imports more Mexican products than all the other countries of the world combined.

drauz
01-26-2017, 07:36 PM
So we agree that we need to tap into our own resources rather than ravaging third world countries?

Oil derricks are OK in Mexico just not your back yard?

No, we ravage them till its gone and THEN we use our own.

Gelston
01-26-2017, 07:38 PM
No, we ravage them till its gone and THEN we use our own.

Been the plan since the '60s.

ClydeR
01-26-2017, 08:02 PM
20 percent tax on all goods from Mexico would devastate a lot of low income and middle income American families, single largest import from Mexico is oil, how is it that he whines about autos and never about the oil industry.

It won't matter if we get another chance (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/25/trump-talk-keeping-iraq-oil-sparking-concerns.html) to take Iraq's oil.

drauz
01-26-2017, 08:10 PM
20 percent tax on all goods from Mexico would devastate a lot of low income and middle income American families, single largest import from Mexico is oil, how is it that he whines about autos and never about the oil industry.

The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: vehicles ($74 billion), electrical machinery ($63 billion), machinery ($49 billion), mineral fuels ($14 billion), and optical and medical instruments ($12 billion).

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Tgo01
01-26-2017, 08:33 PM
I think Americans are so used to the US being a pussy when it comes to trade that they forget how much power the US holds in this area.

The US is the second largest exporter by dollar amounts and the largest importer in the world, larger than the entire EU.

Neveragain
01-26-2017, 09:04 PM
The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: vehicles ($74 billion), electrical machinery ($63 billion), machinery ($49 billion), mineral fuels ($14 billion), and optical and medical instruments ($12 billion).

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

Interesting that the MSM only wants to focus on fruits and vegetables. Almost like they don't want people to see where all the manufacturing jobs went.

Ross Perot couldn't have been more right.

Thondalar
01-26-2017, 09:41 PM
I think Americans are so used to the US being a pussy when it comes to trade that they forget how much power the US holds in this area.

The US is the second largest exporter by dollar amounts and the largest importer in the world, larger than the entire EU.

You can take this all the way back to Bretton Woods.

How far do you want to go down the rabbit hole?

Thondalar
01-26-2017, 09:43 PM
It won't matter if we get another chance (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/25/trump-talk-keeping-iraq-oil-sparking-concerns.html) to take Iraq's oil.

We have more Oil than Iraq. He's more worried about completing Keystone and Dakota...fuck Iraq's oil.

Wait, wait, wait...I thought that was the whole reason Bush Jr. went to Iraq in the first place! You mean...you mean we don't already have Iraqi oil? WTF?

Androidpk
01-26-2017, 09:46 PM
How far do you want to go down the rabbit hole?

below rock bottom

Latrinsorm
01-27-2017, 08:46 PM
Here's what I want to see, and something that you loony lefties should get behind...stop all imports from other Countries unless they prove their workers have the same workplace safety regulations, relative wages, retirement and healthcare benefits as US workers.



The US imports more Mexican products than all the other countries of the world combined.Check out "fair trade". You will find many like minded individuals.

BigWorm
01-27-2017, 09:07 PM
For all the talk of 7-dimensional chess, it is pretty apparent that Trump and his followers have a difficult time anticipating even the most obvious reactions his policies.

Parkbandit
01-27-2017, 10:02 PM
For all the talk of 7-dimensional chess, it is pretty apparent that Trump and his followers have a difficult time anticipating even the most obvious reactions his policies.

Yea.. the big narrative for the past year that Trump just doesn't understand things.

How'd that work out for you?

BigWorm
01-27-2017, 11:21 PM
Well I thought it meant that he won an election, but is really hard to tell because he wants to investigate 3+ million illegal votes he alleges were cast.

Vorpos
01-27-2017, 11:30 PM
Well I thought it meant that he won an election, but is really hard to tell because he wants to investigate 3+ million illegal votes he alleges were cast.

Who cares if he does? Are you worried he will take away all the voters of the Democratic party and make himself emperor?

Allereli
01-27-2017, 11:34 PM
Who cares if he does? Are you worried he will take away all the voters of the Democratic party and make himself emperor?

seeing as at least 2 members of his family and 2 other members of his administration are registered in 2 states, he's the one who should be worried.

Vorpos
01-27-2017, 11:38 PM
seeing as at least 2 members of his family and 2 other members of his administration are registered in 2 states, he's the one who should be worried.

He doesn't have a care in the world. He has both parties by the pussy. Elizabeth Warren and Nancy Pelosi are in the White House kitchen making sandwiches right now.

Tgo01
01-27-2017, 11:46 PM
seeing as at least 2 members of his family and 2 other members of his administration are registered in 2 states, he's the one who should be worried.

Why? It's not illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state.

BigWorm
01-27-2017, 11:57 PM
Uh please try to keep up. Trump's the one who brought up voter fraud by people registered in multiple states:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824227824903090176

http://i.imgur.com/kmg0eDb.jpg

Vorpos
01-28-2017, 12:00 AM
Uh please try to keep up. Trump's the one who brought up voter fraud by people registered in multiple states:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824227824903090176

http://i.imgur.com/kmg0eDb.jpg

it's just an investigation. You should be glad you're not a tea party group under Obama. IRS shakedowns really suck.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 12:03 AM
Who cares if he does? Are you worried he will take away all the voters of the Democratic party and make himself emperor?

Well the election was only decided by about 100,000 votes in three states, so if even a small number of those illegal votes were in those states it would invalidate the results. 100% of documented cases of voter fraud (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/27/a-trump-supporter-was-charged-with-voting-twice-her-lawyer-says-she-shouldnt-stand-trial-2/?utm_term=.add168c3bdaa) in the 2016 election that I know of are by Trump supporters, so its only logical to expect the rest of the illegal votes were for him too.

I thought he won, and I got over it, but it seems like Trump still can't get over it. Have you guys told him he won?

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 12:03 AM
Oh right, Vorpos is fake news.

Vorpos
01-28-2017, 12:04 AM
Oh right, Vorpos is fake news.

Damn that hurts.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 12:08 AM
You are bad at trolling.

Tgo01
01-28-2017, 12:14 AM
Uh please try to keep up. Trump's the one who brought up voter fraud by people registered in multiple states:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824227824903090176

http://i.imgur.com/kmg0eDb.jpg

Yeah he said he wants to investigate voter fraud, he didn't say being registered to vote in more than one state is illegal. He also said he wants to look at people who are dead and are registered to vote, probably to see if they voted. Just like he probably wants to look into it to make sure those who are registered to vote in more than one state didn't actually vote more than once.

Personally I think his investigation is stupid, but people are losing their minds over everything Trump says and does, they mock him for wanting to investigate voter fraud then imply his family members committed voter fraud by being registered to vote in more than one state.

Vorpos
01-28-2017, 12:24 AM
You are bad at trolling.

I wish I was as good as Trump.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 12:40 AM
Yeah he said he wants to investigate voter fraud, he didn't say being registered to vote in more than one state is illegal. He also said he wants to look at people who are dead and are registered to vote, probably to see if they voted. Just like he probably wants to look into it to make sure those who are registered to vote in more than one state didn't actually vote more than once.

Personally I think his investigation is stupid, but people are losing their minds over everything Trump says and does, they mock him for wanting to investigate voter fraud then imply his family members committed voter fraud by being registered to vote in more than one state.

I'm not losing my mind at all. I just think it is really confusing that when there were accusations of election fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania by the Green Party, Trump and his lawyers claimed there was zero evidence of fraud, but now there is supposedly clear evidence that 3mil+ people voted illegally but they can't show it to us yet. I don't understand why he can't just celebrate his victory and move on. You won, get over it.

Parkbandit
01-28-2017, 08:01 AM
Well I thought it meant that he won an election, but is really hard to tell because he wants to investigate 3+ million illegal votes he alleges were cast.

If there is voter fraud out there, don't you want it to be addressed.. whether they are votes for the Democrat or Republican?

Just because he won, he shouldn't investigate it?

Parkbandit
01-28-2017, 08:03 AM
seeing as at least 2 members of his family and 2 other members of his administration are registered in 2 states, he's the one who should be worried.

I was probably registered in 2 states to vote at one or two points in my life. That happens when you leave one state and go to another to live.

Did those 4 people vote in both states? If they did, then THAT is something that should be looked into.

Back
01-28-2017, 08:56 AM
If there is voter fraud out there, don't you want it to be addressed.. whether they are votes for the Democrat or Republican?

Just because he won, he shouldn't investigate it?

I have no issue with it. An investigation could uncover more fraudulent votes for Trump. There are already 4 documented cases.

Candor
01-28-2017, 10:50 AM
There needs to be an investigation to determine the amount of illegal voting - my belief is that the scope was a bit higher in this election (although I absolutely do not believe the outcome was affected). In addition to any solutions that may be determined, the investigation should also dispel the ridiculous concept that 3-5 million illegal votes were cast.

Wrathbringer
01-28-2017, 10:59 AM
There needs to be an investigation to determine the amount of illegal voting - my belief is that the scope was a bit higher in this election (although I absolutely do not believe the outcome was affected). In addition to any solutions that may be determined, the investigation should also dispel the ridiculous concept that 3-5 million illegal votes were cast.

Stfu candor.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 12:40 PM
If there is voter fraud out there, don't you want it to be addressed.. whether they are votes for the Democrat or Republican?

Just because he won, he shouldn't investigate it?
Sure, show me the evidence of voter fraud.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:35 PM
Sure, show me the evidence of voter fraud.

It's almost like that is what in investigation uncovers.

Allereli
01-28-2017, 01:41 PM
It's almost like that is what in investigation uncovers.

yes, everyone wants one, we're just wondering why Trump does.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 01:45 PM
It's almost like that is what in investigation uncovers.

Well if you follow the laws of this country, usually there is some probable cause required to start the investigation. Are you aware of any probable cause?

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:46 PM
Well if you follow the laws of this country, usually there is some probable cause required to start the investigation. Are you aware of any probable cause?

All it requires are reports and someone feeling the need to follow up on it.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 01:48 PM
That sounds more like a witch hunt than an investigation

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:49 PM
That sounds more like a witch hunt than an investigation

What? Every investigation begins with a report of something needing to be investigated. The investigation us what finds the evidence.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 01:50 PM
I'd like to report Gelston for voter fraud. I saw him vote in at least 10 states while electioneering.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:51 PM
I'd like to report Gelston for voter fraud. I saw him vote in at least 10 states while electioneering.

And the first part of the investigation would be determining that a crime has occurred.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 01:55 PM
Gelston doesn't look like someone who can vote legally. Probably a felon. Please investigate. This is a real problem and not just something I imagined. An investigation into Gelston is totally a good use of government resources.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 01:57 PM
Maybe the IRS should investigate some Tea Party groups. I've heard some reports they are doing bad stuff so people definitely shouldn't get butthurt and think it is politically motivated.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:58 PM
Gelston doesn't look like someone who can vote legally. Probably a felon. Please investigate. This is a real problem and not just something I imagined. An investigation into Gelston is totally a good use of government resources.

And it would either be ignored or investigated and found false in 2 seconds and closed.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 01:58 PM
Maybe the IRS should investigate some Tea Party groups. I've heard some reports they are doing bad stuff so people definitely shouldn't get butthurt and think it is politically motivated.

How do you know they haven't? You seem 5o not know what the word investigate means.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:03 PM
And it would either be ignored or investigated and found false in 2 seconds and closed.

Well there's at least as much evidence for investigating you as there are that 3 million plus non-citizens voted in this election. For some reason, I don't think these TRUMPED UP allegations will be found false in 2 seconds and closed.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 02:05 PM
Well there's at least as much evidence for investigating you as there are that 3 million plus non-citizens voted in this election. For some reason, I don't think these TRUMPED UP allegations will be found false in 2 seconds and closed.

Again, the investigation is what uncovers evidence. The goal if an investigation is to prove or disprove. If found false, the investigation still completed its goal.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:05 PM
How do you know they haven't? You seem 5o not know what the word investigate means.

You seem so well informed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Gelston
01-28-2017, 02:12 PM
You seem so well informed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Yes, I was aware of that. This has what to do with election fraud?

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:16 PM
Um actually this thread is supposed to be about protectionism. Please don't topic police me.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 02:18 PM
Um actually this thread is supposed to be about protectionism. Please don't topic police me.

I'm not, you seem to be mentioning that to me for some reason, I was asking what the relevance was. I guess there is none.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:21 PM
I'm pointing out that politically motivated investigations based on made up evidence may not be the greatest idea. There was significantly more evidence for the IRS investigations and tea party tax avoiders cried so many conservative tears over it.

Gelston
01-28-2017, 02:27 PM
I'm pointing out that politically motivated investigations based on made up evidence may not be the greatest idea. There was significantly more evidence for the IRS investigations and tea party tax avoiders cried so many conservative tears over it.

We don't know if it is made up or not. That is the first thing an investigation looks at, the credibility of the incident.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:40 PM
It's already been more than 2 seconds. That's about all the credibility these accusations deserve. There may be good reasons to investigate this election, but the accusation that over 3 million non-citizens cast votes isn't even remotely plausible.

BigWorm
01-28-2017, 02:43 PM
And it turns out these imaginary accusations have already been investigated in e.g. Ohio, where there was zero evidence found to support them. http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/01/25/ohio-secretary-of-state-jon-husted-on-trumps-unsupported-illegal-voting-claims-no-evidence-to-support-any-of-those-concerns

Even the Republican secretary of state says this is an unfounded conspiracy theory.

Back
02-03-2017, 10:10 AM
Now the White House is backing down from the supposed 3 million voter fraud claim.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-house-voter-fraud_us_589455a4e4b04061313641dc?

Trump and his staff are acting like 8 year old crybabies who lie to cover up their mistakes. It's embarrassing.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 12:06 PM
Trump and his staff are acting like 8 year old crybabies who lie to cover up their mistakes. It's embarrassing.

A politician lying? Trump is surely Hitler.

BigWorm
02-03-2017, 03:19 PM
A politician lying? Trump is surely Hitler.
Wait I thought he was a businessman, not a politician? So you're OK with him contuining politics as usual? What happened to the disrupter who would drain the swamp?

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 04:04 PM
Wait I thought he was a businessman, not a politician?

You might have missed the memo but Trump is now the president so technically he is now a politician.


So you're OK with him contuining politics as usual?

No, I'm just not going to go crazy and look for any tidbit to make Trump look like he's literally Hitler, or that his actions are "embarrassing", or that he and his entire administration is acting like 8 year olds, or that lying is new territory for a politician.

Just like I didn't do this stupid shit when Obama was president.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 04:33 PM
No, I'm just not going to go crazy and look for any tidbit to make Trump look like he's literally Hitler, or that his actions are "embarrassing", or that he and his entire administration is acting like 8 year olds, or that lying is new territory for a politician.

Just like I didn't do this stupid shit when Obama was president.

Lol.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 04:38 PM
Lol.

Feel free to post links to back up your lol.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 04:44 PM
Feel free to post links to back up your lol.

Reference.... your entire posting history.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 04:51 PM
Reference.... your entire posting history.

So you got nothing.

I didn't say I never criticized Obama, and I don't even care if Back wants to criticize Trump. But his entire post was just: Trump lied! Like an 8 year old! How embarrassing!

This coupled with his post in the other thread about how there are roving bands of KKK members armed with guns looking to shoot blacks just makes my eyes roll so hard.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 04:58 PM
So you got nothing.

I didn't say I never criticized Obama, and I don't even care if Back wants to criticize Trump. But his entire post was just: Trump lied! Like an 8 year old! How embarrassing!

This coupled with his post in the other thread about how there are roving bands of KKK members armed with guns looking to shoot blacks just makes my eyes roll so hard.

I've got everything. Your entire posting history is basically being triggered about Obama, liberals, Democrats, Hillary, or PC posters if you're not talking about scripts or selling stuff. I remember one point where you literally couldn't separate your relatives on Facebook and PC posters from people who committed some sort of crime. You somehow thought by their mere existence they were defending it.

You see yourself.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:00 PM
I remember one point where you literally couldn't separate your relatives on Facebook and PC posters from people who committed some sort of crime. You somehow thought by their mere existence they were defending it.

You talking about those Hillary supporters who attacked that homeless Trump supporter and I was pissed because Democrats were pretending it never happened and were instead continuing with their bullshit narrative that Trump and all of his supporters are racist Nazis? Okay WB. Whatever you say.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:01 PM
You talking about those Hillary supporters who attacked that homeless Trump supporter and I was pissed because Democrats were pretending it never happened and were instead continuing with their bullshit narrative that Trump and all of his supporters are racist Nazis? Okay WB. Whatever you say.

Absolutely nobody had defended those people OR said it never happened. You still can't separate.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:05 PM
Absolutely nobody had defended those people OR said it never happened. You still can't separate.

When did I say anyone was defending the piece of shit attackers or saying it never happened? I said they were pretending it never happened, as in they didn't even want to acknowledge it even happened.

Come on WB, your strawman tactics are beyond dull at this point.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:14 PM
When did I say anyone was defending the piece of shit attackers or saying it never happened? I said they were pretending it never happened, as in they didn't even want to acknowledge it even happened.

Come on WB, your strawman tactics are beyond dull at this point.

You can't face up to your entire posting career. What Backlash did is what you do.

Kembal
02-03-2017, 05:29 PM
When did I say anyone was defending the piece of shit attackers or saying it never happened? I said they were pretending it never happened, as in they didn't even want to acknowledge it even happened.

Come on WB, your strawman tactics are beyond dull at this point.

As soon as you posted it, everyone condemned it. Are you literally saying that in order for us to not be hypocrites, we should condemn something first before you did? Or otherwise, since you posted it first, that means the rest of us are pretending it never happened (as opposed to say, we didn't know it happened, or maybe we did, but have other things to do besides posting on the PC immediately)?

If that's not what you're saying, I'm completely lost as to how to satisfy your requirement of not being a "hypocrite".

(for the record, I had no clue it happened until you posted)

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:39 PM
You can't face up to your entire posting career. What Backlash did is what you do.

My "entire" posting career? You point out one instance (I'll also go ahead and give you the story about the racist blacks who tortured a white disabled man) where I was pissed at the depravity of the perpetrators because of who their victim supposedly voted for, and you compare this to Back losing his shit because Trump "lied" and therefore is acting like an 8 year old?

Give me a break. Your nonsense is such fucking bullshit.


As soon as you posted it, everyone condemned it.

You fucking liar.

Here is the thread in question if you need your memory refreshed:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?105310-Hillary-supporters-attack-homeless-black-woman

pk responded 9 minutes later, followed by Candor almost 36 hours later wondering why no Democrats have commented on the story, then the first Democrat to respond is none other than our own WB here who said:


You'll fly off the deep end to defend people who've actually murdered people but no! A moral outcry has to happen when Republicans do basically the same thing you flipped out on the Democrats over.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a646c45633cfab95a2aaf727480883aba7de652148fb3601db 61853a62d3b3da.jpg

Who didn't even comment on the video in question!

Your revisionist history isn't going to get passed me.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:43 PM
My "entire" posting career? You point out one instance (I'll also go ahead and give you the story about the racist blacks who tortured a white disabled man) where I was pissed at the depravity of the perpetrators because of who their victim supposedly voted for, and you compare this to Back losing his shit because Trump "lied" and therefore is acting like an 8 year old?

Give me a break. Your nonsense is such fucking bullshit.

You fucking liar.

Here is the thread in question if you need your memory refreshed:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?105310-Hillary-supporters-attack-homeless-black-woman

pk responded 9 minutes later, followed by Candor almost 36 hours later wondering why no Democrats have commented on the story, then the first Democrat to respond is none other than our own WB here who said:

Who didn't even comment on the video in question!

Your revisionist history isn't going to get passed me.

You're triggered again right now because you can't see the similarities. You even backed down from it after the fact because you revealed that you were upset by your family daring to not agree with you on Facebook.

I knew it was you flipping out completely and being unwilling to listen to anything but your own internal narrative. It's happening right now.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:43 PM
And you know what? All of this is moot anyways because I said I never lost my shit like this over Obama.

Fine WB, you win. HOORAY! I'll just go ahead and give you those two threads of mine to avoid 30 pages of you setting up strawman after strawman and me tearing them down one by one.

You said my "entire" posting history is like this. Fine. Give me another example. Try to at least tie it to Obama somehow this time.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:44 PM
And you know what? All of this is moot anyways because I said I never lost my shit like this over Obama.

Fine WB, you win. HOORAY! I'll just go ahead and give you those two threads of mine to avoid 30 pages of you setting up strawman after strawman and me tearing them down one by one.

You said my "entire" posting history is like this. Fine. Give me another example. Try to at least tie it to Obama somehow this time.

You find something to flip out about. You post a thread. You don't listen to anybody else's viewpoint. Read over your posted threads.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:46 PM
You're triggered again right now

Honestly WB you're acting more pathetic than usual right now.

"OMG TGO! You're 'triggered' because I called you a liar and now you're calling me out on my bullshit! Oh I so got you!"

Shut the fuck up already and come up with some new material.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:47 PM
You find something to flip out about. You post a thread. You don't listen to anybody else's viewpoint. Read over your posted threads.

See? You have absolutely nothing and you just now admitted it. Glad we got this solved in less than 2 pages rather than the usual 30+ pages of your bullshit we usually have to endure.

Come on, my "entire" posting history is filled with this. Surely you can come up with 1 example in minutes.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:49 PM
See? You have absolutely nothing and you just now admitted it. Glad we got this solved in less than 2 pages rather than the usual 30+ pages of your bullshit we usually have to endure.

Come on, my "entire" posting history is filled with this. Surely you can come up with 1 example in minutes.

This is your totally favorite pastime where you declare you won without listening to anybody else's input. Filter out your GS themed content. Look at the rest. What is it? You getting triggered about stuff.

A really entertaining search is pairing Tgo01 and Obama on the Player's Corner on Google.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:50 PM
This is your totally favorite pastime where you declare you won without listening to anybody else's input. Filter out your GS themed content. Look at the rest. What is it? You getting triggered about stuff.

Stop tap dancing around the issue WB and give one example already, or is this going to turn into a 30+ page bullshit fest after all where I keep asking you the same question and you keep dodging it?

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:52 PM
And what is up with some people lately dragging GS into this in regards to my posts?

Yes, I am passionate about politics and like to discuss politics, I don't care if I hurt anyone's feelings when it comes to this shit. This has nothing at all to do with anything outside of politics and especially GS.

tyrant-201
02-03-2017, 05:53 PM
Stop tap dancing around the issue WB and give one example already, or is this going to turn into a 30+ page bullshit fest after all where I keep asking you the same question and you keep dodging it?

I always found your being triggered by Obama and liberals funny. It's a little disturbing you can't self evaluate though. I mean, plenty of people can't here. I just expect a little more from you because you seem like a fairly intelligent person.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:55 PM
I always found your being triggered by Obama and liberals funny. It's a little disturbing you can't self evaluate though. I mean, plenty of people can't here. I just expect a little more from you because you seem like a fairly intelligent person.

Do note. I also think he's quite intelligent.


And what is up with some people lately dragging GS into this in regards to my posts?

Showing that you can be productive and rational.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 05:57 PM
I always found your being triggered by Obama and liberals funny. It's a little disturbing you can't self evaluate though. I mean, plenty of people can't here. I just expect a little more from you because you seem like a fairly intelligent person.

One example.


Do note. I also think he's quite intelligent.

One example.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 05:58 PM
One example.

One example.

I already pointed you to 11 pages of pre-archival search results on just Obama. If I go to all your other triggering variations it gets much deeper.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 06:09 PM
I already pointed you to 11 pages of pre-archival search results on just Obama. If I go to all your other triggering variations it gets much deeper.

So anytime I mention Obama at all it means I'm "triggered"?

Is this the left's new bullshit tactic? 8 years it was "You mentioned Obama! You're a racist!" Then it was 1 year of "You mentioned Hillary! You're a sexist!"

Now I'm "triggered" if I mention Democrats at all?

Kind of sad guys. Just remember; Trump won.

Warriorbird
02-03-2017, 06:10 PM
So anytime I mention Obama at all it means I'm "triggered"?

Is this the left's new bullshit tactic? 8 years it was "You mentioned Obama! You're a racist!" Then it was 1 year of "You mentioned Hillary! You're a sexist!"

Now I'm "triggered" if I mention Democrats at all?

Kind of sad guys. Just remember; Trump won.

I'd suggest you take a look through those results. It is definitely a revelation and merely a slice of the whole.

Tgo01
02-03-2017, 06:18 PM
I'd suggest you take a look through those results. It is definitely a revelation and merely a slice of the whole.


Stop tap dancing around the issue WB and give one example already, or is this going to turn into a 30+ page bullshit fest after all where I keep asking you the same question and you keep dodging it?

Did I call it or what?

Androidpk
02-03-2017, 06:29 PM
Did I call it or what?

It's his special power.