17x Lance

[Pereus]

Want to get a feel of this things value before I do/dont try to go for a defusion in the future (if they are released again).

10x HCW T5 Lance +20 Polearm Bonus, +13 STR, +12 Cman Bonus (Currently 3 slot fusion)

So basically a 17x lance with enhancives. Im just curious if the value add of something like rotflares or super bubble flares would be worth the cost of de-fusioning it. Also if anyone knows if there are greater than +6 STR bonus orbs or greather than +12 Cman Bonus orbs that would be great too ao I can keep an eye out.

[khorpulent]

That's just absurd.

[neimanz1]

you should buy my 21 to range orb and wait for spire to make it 41 to polearm!

[Fallen]

This weapon could receive a bane service, right? Or am I reading this chart wrong?

https://gswiki.play.net/The_Charts_of_Clarity

[Whirlin]

This weapon could receive a bane service, right? Or am I reading this chart wrong?

https://gswiki.play.net/The_Charts_of_Clarity

This weapon would be eligible for Bane, Poleaxe, and Bubble I believe.

[macgyver]

Would be perfect if it was perfect.

[Pereus]

you should buy my 21 to range orb and wait for spire to make it 41 to polearm!

I can only add a +20 to Polearm stat orb and make it +30 to Polearm bonus, but I would consider it if they ever ran Spire.

[neimanz1]

was this your old lance or did you make another?

[Pereus]

Got the old one back and modified.

[Geijon Khyree]

30 million for 10x, 20 million for hcw, 15 million for ensorcell, 55 stat bonus with about 30 attack strength is 20-40 million. It depends on what people want to mark each orb at or the value of 3 slot by itself.

Its not a 17x polearm though. That might be a pet peeve of mine. Its a strong lance no doubt.

[gilchristr]

"you should buy my 21 to range orb and wait for spire to make it 41 to polearm!"

You can do that? I didnt think they did fusion items at the spire!

[allen]

30 million for 10x, 20 million for hcw, 15 million for ensorcell, 55 stat bonus with about 30 attack strength is 20-40 million. It depends on what people want to mark each orb at or the value of 3 slot by itself.

Its not a 17x polearm though. That might be a pet peeve of mine. Its a strong lance no doubt.

I think he's talking about if he has the opportunity to get a defusion cert and I think it's 100% worth it. I'd value that at well over 100m. Probably closer to 150-175 but I could be way off..

[rolfard]

You can't work on fusion or orbs at the Spire But...

You could get a +20 ranged bonus and a +20 ranged rank put into one object. Then de-fusion it. Then take it to the spire to make one of them the same as the other (make them both bonus). Then take it to the next fusion shaman and make an orb from that. Only a couple hundred million investment...

[zennsunni]

Would the value of this lance cover taking a 7x perfect to 10x, HCW and T5? I don't know the prices of those in silvers well enough to judge.

[allen]

Would the value of this lance cover taking a 7x perfect to 10x, HCW and T5? I don't know the prices of those in silvers well enough to judge.

I don't believe so, items normally cost more to make then what they're actually worth.

[Pereus]

Alright, this has now been de-fusioned and I plan on adding Polearm flares to it at the next DR. Does anyone have a rough value after that?

[Archigeek]

It's a fucking lance. It hits like a Mack truck all by its lonesome. I think adding the polearm flares is a waste since it's not going to matter very often. Go big or go home: undead bane or blink.

[Pereus]

It's a fucking lance. It hits like a Mack truck all by its lonesome. I think adding the polearm flares is a waste since it's not going to matter very often. Go big or go home: undead bane or blink.

Bane is on my todo list, but being a Paladin, it doesn't really matter to me at the moment. Why would the polearm flares be a waste? They were only 50k bloodscrip and I can still always put the UB on after.

[Ardwen]

because you are past the pint of diminishing returns, you wont add 50 million or whatever the scrip value is by adding the flares, not even remotely close to it. Almost all of us with the overpowered weapons are at or well past that point now.

[SashaFierce]

I wouldn't do polearm flares, they're not that great. Rotflares or Bubble flares.

[nocturnix]

I wouldn't do polearm flares, they're not that great. Rotflares or Bubble flares.

Just wondering if anything will live long enough to take advantage of rotflares on a lance?


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[Goat]

Rotflares works with a lot of (most?) combat scripts. I expect you could do polearm flares AND rotflares.

Rotflares are not uber for non-sorcerers. But if you're trying to squeeze every last bit of power into this thing, you'll end up hunting them down eventually.

[time4fun]

Rotflares works with a lot of (most?) combat scripts. I expect you could do polearm flares AND rotflares.

Rotflares are not uber for non-sorcerers. But if you're trying to squeeze every last bit of power into this thing, you'll end up hunting them down eventually.

Rotflares works with almost everything, yes. But I don't believe it works with fusion.

[Goat]

It's a fucking lance. It hits like a Mack truck all by its lonesome. I think adding the polearm flares is a waste since it's not going to matter very often. Go big or go home: undead bane or blink.

I find myself at a point where my lance can one-shot a lot of stuff without death crit or mstrike, just blood loss. But not every time. Another 10 AS or extra flare or whatever is entirely unnecessary, sure, but it's still useful. (My AS is lower than leet postcap non-pures, but my rotflares are good for ~95 damage on the first swing, so it sort of balances out).

[Goat]

Rotflares works with almost everything, yes. But I don't believe it works with fusion.

I do remember Wyrom calling that out specifically. The list of non-rottable scripts basically comes down to fusion and a bunch of old dusty scripts he didn't want to mess with. And I forget if Voln is allowed - you can't ensorcell Voln stuff, right?

[time4fun]

I do remember Wyrom calling that out specifically. The list of non-rottable scripts basically comes down to fusion and a bunch of old dusty scripts he didn't want to mess with. And I forget if Voln is allowed - you can't ensorcell Voln stuff, right?

I'd be surprised if they allowed Voln. Wyrom did say he was going to look into Fusion, but I don't remember him ever saying things had changed.

Not that it matters much- like 3 rotflares go out a year. Odds aren't great of getting them on any weapon, this lance included.

[Roblar]

Voln script is for armor and rotflares for weapons/runestaffs so even if technically doable, I doubt ever shall they meet.

[Gizmo]

It won't be worth what you put into it.

These sort of projects are typically done if you intend on keeping them imo

[Goat]

Voln script is for armor and rotflares for weapons/runestaffs so even if technically doable, I doubt ever shall they meet.

Derp. Fair point.

[Pereus]

From what I understand, rotflares and polearm flares both take the script slot. I already have HCW in the weighting/flare spot so I would have to pick one. Im with the other poster who said rotflares wouldnt matter because everything would die quicker than the rot would last anyways.

[Pereus]

It won't be worth what you put into it.

These sort of projects are typically done if you intend on keeping them imo

Im with you on that. I would just like a rough value of what it would be worth, not what I would sell it for. Most likely this thing would be unsellable, well, at least not for what is put into it. I'm used to that though with my cars.

[Roblar]

They do but rotflares is super duper awesome by squeezing into the same slot and working with most other scripts.

[Ardwen]

if not for resale, and for a paladin, blink, extra-planar bane and then rotflares. a decently large percentage of stuff at cap would get baned, and rot would just add icing tot he cake. But dont really see how we'd come up with a valid valuation I doubt Anyoneh as a realistic valuation for any of the super weapons we have created in the last 4 or 5 years.

[time4fun]

I heart my blinkrot maces =D

[Archigeek]

Might as well put some cow horns on the grill of that Mack truck: extra weighting.

That or super bubble flares if you can get them. Why bubble flares? Because paladins actually do get hit and beat up pretty good at times. They rarely get warded so TD isn't an issue, but defense against physical attack can sometimes be a weakness for them... if an opponent survives long enough.

Now knowing that you're playing a paladin, I agree that undead bane would be a giant waste. Get ye some demon bane for the RP, or as Ardwen said, maybe extra-planar.

Or, work on something else, like your armor?

[time4fun]

Might as well put some cow horns on the grill of that Mack truck: extra weighting.

That or super bubble flares if you can get them. Why bubble flares? Because paladins actually do get hit and beat up pretty good at times. They rarely get warded so TD isn't an issue, but defense against physical attack can sometimes be a weakness for them... if an opponent survives long enough.

Now knowing that you're playing a paladin, I agree that undead bane would be a giant waste. Get ye some demon bane for the RP, or as Ardwen said, maybe extra-planar.

Or, work on something else, like your armor?

You can't have bubble flares and fusion at the same time.

[Roblar]

He stated fusion was made enhancive at Duskruin.

[time4fun]

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