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shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 12:54 AM
some sleek veil iron full plate

>read plate
An antique vellum label affixed to the inner lining of the veil iron full plate reads, "5x t4 Ithziri armor, fully unlocked status tree, 38 lbs."


You analyze your veil iron full plate and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions.

The creator has also provided the following information:
This plate offers a chance to interrupt an attack when you are stunned, webbed, rooted, immobilized, unconscious, or prone.
This is Base armor, and will fire up to 7 times per day to move you in a random direction. It has special messaging for WEAR, REMOVE, and CLEAN.
It can be altered freely, within normal armor altering guidelines. Because some of the messaging refers to buckles and straps, nothing that completely conflicts with that concept should be done.

This plate is at unlock level 4.

You can tell that the plate is as light as it can get.


Ithzir armor info: https://gswiki.play.net/Ithziri_armor_(saved_posts)


MB: 40m CB: 40m to Jon1833 and sold

macgyver
11-02-2016, 07:50 AM
some sleek veil iron full plate

>read plate
An antique vellum label affixed to the inner lining of the veil iron full plate reads, "5x t4 Ithziri armor, fully unlocked status tree, 38 lbs."


You analyze your veil iron full plate and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions.

The creator has also provided the following information:
This plate offers a chance to interrupt an attack when you are stunned, webbed, rooted, immobilized, unconscious, or prone.
This is Base armor, and will fire up to 7 times per day to move you in a random direction. It has special messaging for WEAR, REMOVE, and CLEAN.
It can be altered freely, within normal armor altering guidelines. Because some of the messaging refers to buckles and straps, nothing that completely conflicts with that concept should be done.

This plate is at unlock level 4.

You can tell that the plate is as light as it can get.


Ithzir armor info: https://gswiki.play.net/Ithziri_armor_(saved_posts)


MB: 40m

This thing is incredibly OP. I just read it; basically at this tier it acts like a paladin's beseech; the best emergency button in the game currently. If there is a tier 4 ithirzi robes; it would be incredibly useful for a monk, since they get zero emergency buttons.

Donut
11-02-2016, 08:17 AM
is the 'beseech' ability 7x per day?

macgyver
11-02-2016, 08:43 AM
is the 'beseech' ability 7x per day?

It's only x2 day. But it's better than a Paladins in that it can remove ALL the status affects at one time instead of one by one. Incredibly incredibly OP, curious how they justified making this thing.

Also works through sleep apparently, Paladin's beseech doesn't work while asleep.

Pereus
11-02-2016, 08:51 AM
It's only x2 day. But it's better than a Paladins in that it can remove ALL the status affects at one time instead of one by one. Incredibly incredibly OP, curious how they justified making this thing.

Also works through sleep apparently, Paladin's beseech doesn't work while asleep.

1635 isnt limited to twice a day. Only limited to how much mana the Paladin has and cant be asleep.

Erous
11-02-2016, 08:54 AM
1635 isnt limited to twice a day. Only limited to how much mana the Paladin has and cant be asleep.

Not even sure mana is necessarily a limitation. I've blown my nerves to hell with 1635 to get out of sticky situations.

Pereus
11-02-2016, 08:55 AM
It's only x2 day. But it's better than a Paladins in that it can remove ALL the status affects at one time instead of one by one. Incredibly incredibly OP, curious how they justified making this thing.

Also works through sleep apparently, Paladin's beseech doesn't work while asleep.

1635 isnt limited to twice a day. Only limited to how much mana the Paladin has and cant be asleep.

But after re-re-reading your post it looks like you were talking about the armor so carry on.

Carsyn
11-02-2016, 01:26 PM
So all four unlocks are on the status condition tree? It's not clear in the original post.

Roblar
11-02-2016, 01:38 PM
It's on the label :p

macgyver
11-02-2016, 01:56 PM
It's on the label :p

I just noticed that. That's super cool but clearly OOC, wonder who put that on there. And is it machine washable?

Roblar
11-02-2016, 01:59 PM
Assuming you're not trolling and don't know what that is.

https://gswiki.play.net/Label

For someone supposedly who has recently returned, you have a deep understanding and/or strong opinions of many systems I've noticed in other posts.

Tylec
11-02-2016, 02:00 PM
Just to be certain, Ithziri still wont fire in warcamps because of the anti teleport mechanic, correct?

SashaFierce
11-02-2016, 02:16 PM
It says it will remove blind on the wiki, anyone know a creature that inflicts blindness?

Viekn
11-02-2016, 02:17 PM
It says it will remove blind on the wiki, anyone know a creature that inflicts blindness?

yo mamma?

macgyver
11-02-2016, 02:20 PM
Assuming you're not trolling and don't know what that is.

https://gswiki.play.net/Label

For someone supposedly who has recently returned, you have a deep understanding and/or strong opinions of many systems I've noticed in other posts.

Most of my posts are questions Rob, especially about in-game systems. Deep knowledge, yeah, not really.The only things I have strong opinions are on F2P and generally out of game stuff.

But this label thing is stupid. It's an in-game device that's blatantly out of game. I was actually shocked that the GMs will OK this; it's almost like they're saying "yeah yeah, we know whatcha want the stat numbers, well here it is! Psst! silvers are going for 9.5 Bucks per mil, probably should sell this puppy now!" I mean loresongs and assess makes some attempt to mask or in-gamize the stats. Anyhow, news to me.

Viekn
11-02-2016, 02:25 PM
Most of my posts are questions Rob, especially about in-game systems. Deep knowledge, yeah, not really.The only things I have strong opinions are on F2P and generally out of game stuff.

But this label thing is stupid. It's an in-game device that's blatantly out of game. I was actually shocked that the GMs will OK this; it's almost like they're saying "yeah yeah, we know whatcha want the stat numbers, well here it is! Psst! silvers are going for 9.5 Bucks per mil, probably should sell this puppy now!" I mean loresongs and assess makes some attempt to mask or in-gamize the stats. Anyhow, news to me.

Yeah, but being in character is really just about how you talk, act, and think on the amunet. If you type "info" to see your stats which is obviously ooc, how is that different from reading a label on something? No one else sees the label except the person holding it, so it doesn't ruin my immersion if you're holding an item with a label on it.

It's not like you glance down at your gear all of a sudden, spy an ooc label on it, and go "what the fuck, this world isn't real?"

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 02:27 PM
For those asking about trades, at the moment I need coins, so that's what I'm focused on. The only thing I might consider, trade wise, is a nice returning weapon.

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 02:29 PM
Oh AND I will remove the label for you, if you want, when you win it. I have label solvent stashed away.

Roblar
11-02-2016, 02:33 PM
I agree it can be jarring, but the ooc part is player written and doesn't have to be.

I can also see how it is valuable for players with a ton of junk. So if I did someday add a label for personal notes and sold the item, I'd remove it via the solvent to erase the read on the item since the buyer doesn't need to see that.

While testing this, I noticed a label applied over an item with an altered read (like a name/phrase) will overwrite it, both are gone when label is removed.

So I then used the solvent to erase GM altered reads on items (weapon names) when transferring part of an alter (because lazy and didn't want to waste an alter or give a buyer my item's name). So, it works on more than just label created reads.

Tylec, I don't think Ithzir fires in a warcamp. It definitely does not in the Rift, Nelemar, Reim, Sanctum. Pretty sure I read not in a camp since you can't teleport in.

Anyway, sweet armor and probably the first fully unlocked status tree! (unless whoever won that fishhook full tree unlock chose status a couple years ago).

Archigeek
11-02-2016, 02:56 PM
I agree it can be jarring, but the ooc part is player written and doesn't have to be.

I can also see how it is valuable for players with a ton of junk. So if I did someday add a label for personal notes and sold the item, I'd remove it via the solvent to erase the read on the item since the buyer doesn't need to see that.

While testing this, I noticed a label applied over an item with an altered read (like a name/phrase) will overwrite it, both are gone when label is removed.

So I then used the solvent to erase GM altered reads on items (weapon names) when transferring part of an alter (because lazy and didn't want to waste an alter or give a buyer my item's name). So, it works on more than just label created reads.

Tylec, I don't think Ithzir fires in a warcamp. It definitely does not in the Rift, Nelemar, Reim, Sanctum. Pretty sure I read not in a camp since you can't teleport in.

Anyway, sweet armor and probably the first fully unlocked status tree! (unless whoever won that fishhook full tree unlock chose status a couple years ago).

Voln armor escape feature fires in the rift. I'm surprised Ithzir doesn't. Voln armor sends you to a seemingly random location, and if I remember right it's almost, but not quite always on the same plane. I don't use it often so I forget the details sometimes. It also has more limits than the Ithzir feature: doesn't automatically initiate, (requires "beseech plate" for me; can't be activated when in RT, (but can when stunned).

Gelston
11-02-2016, 02:59 PM
Most of my posts are questions Rob, especially about in-game systems. Deep knowledge, yeah, not really.The only things I have strong opinions are on F2P and generally out of game stuff.

But this label thing is stupid. It's an in-game device that's blatantly out of game. I was actually shocked that the GMs will OK this; it's almost like they're saying "yeah yeah, we know whatcha want the stat numbers, well here it is! Psst! silvers are going for 9.5 Bucks per mil, probably should sell this puppy now!" I mean loresongs and assess makes some attempt to mask or in-gamize the stats. Anyhow, news to me.

Did you even ready the link about labels? You write the labels yourself. GMs have nothing to do with what you write on there, just like they have nothing to do with what you write on paper or in books. You can put Clowns eat hotdogs on there if you want. Labels exist for your own use, so that you can keep track of stuff.

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 03:01 PM
Ithzir armor flares are nice, but seem more geared towards lower levels than capped, or used to. They don't seem to work in the rift or nelemar. However, if you can unlock it to the special fog room level of unlock, the charges tree tier 3, it's insanely INSANELY useful in the confluence. Before I sold my old armor, I'd hunt in the confluence with it and after I got my ass handed to me a decent amount, would find myself in a nice safe room where I can heal, respell up, gain mana, etc, without having to search for the exit or waste soulstone charges. If you're a monk or wearing robe armor, I recommend the shirt I've also got, it can get this unlock next time they're offered.

I don't know if it works in sanctum of scales. I don't know if it works in Reim, but I'd doubt it.

Carsyn
11-02-2016, 04:10 PM
I had some T0 ithzir armor for a long time. I was happy to get rid of it. Personally, it drove me crazy that the escape fog triggered before CMan mobility fired. Thus I might be prone and perfectly fine normally, but the armor would fog me next door on a swing as opposed to me just standing up. I believe it did it to me when I was kneeling at foraging tasks too.

Roblar
11-02-2016, 04:42 PM
Voln armor escape feature fires in the rift. I'm surprised Ithzir doesn't. Voln armor sends you to a seemingly random location, and if I remember right it's almost, but not quite always on the same plane. I don't use it often so I forget the details sometimes. It also has more limits than the Ithzir feature: doesn't automatically initiate, (requires "beseech plate" for me; can't be activated when in RT, (but can when stunned).

I'd think because it rides on the voln fog symbol which is toggled in the rift rooms and capped ones in general. Ithzir seems to use gold ring or some other room flag for transport where society has its own deal?

Dunno, might be an easy fix but the main problem is original script owner left staff and it wasn't picked up. But yea I sent a list of issues and possible improvements days after I got the script and played with it 2 years ago and posted them here too somewhere and forwarded a couple times including recently so hopefully a GM will review now that EG is over.



I had some T0 ithzir armor for a long time. I was happy to get rid of it. Personally, it drove me crazy that the escape fog triggered before CMan mobility fired. Thus I might be prone and perfectly fine normally, but the armor would fog me next door on a swing as opposed to me just standing up. I believe it did it to me when I was kneeling at foraging tasks too.

Yes, this is unfortunate. As a warrior with berserk (and also thematically), I had zero interest in the base ability of old Ithzir until the manual verbs/trees with cool abilities were added 2 years ago. I purposely use those manual verbs to drain armor charges before escorts too because traveler's death rates have gone far up!!

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 04:59 PM
and the shirt is now sold for more than the MB on this, so someone should bid and win this and give me some money, thank you.

jon1833
11-02-2016, 05:19 PM
MB

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 05:27 PM
updated

rolfard
11-02-2016, 06:19 PM
Can you post the log of using BESEECH? (sorry to be a pessimist but after reading the wiki it *should* have 10 charges if you fully unlocked the listed tree). EDIT Nevermind, that's the listed cost, not benefit.

time4fun
11-02-2016, 10:37 PM
Dear god I want this

shad0ws0ngs
11-02-2016, 11:33 PM
thats generally when folks bid on things. feel free!

shad0ws0ngs
11-03-2016, 04:11 PM
once at 40m

rolfard
11-03-2016, 05:35 PM
Can you please post log of beseech in Nelemar Temple, Grimswarm Camp, or the rift (known locations where ithzir doesnt activate)?

shad0ws0ngs
11-03-2016, 06:02 PM
very doubtful, considering I'll be working from tonight until sunday morning and have no intention of going into the rift, not back to teras during that time.

shad0ws0ngs
11-03-2016, 06:24 PM
warcamp:

>go air
[Warcamp, Approach]
A dirt path leads over a rise of earth and down towards a collection of mismatching tents and huts. The rotting stench of the encampment's inhabitants lingers in the air, mixed with the aroma of cooked flesh and burning wood. A heavy grey haze of campfire smoke hangs over the warcamp and drifts down behind the rise of land, creating a pocket of concealment from the eyes of the nearby Grimswarm. You also see an obscured path leading out.
Obvious paths: north
>fall
You fall over. Clumsy oaf!
P>beseech plate
You focus your thoughts on your plate in a desperate attempt to recover...
You bounce back up to your feet!

rolfard
11-03-2016, 10:08 PM
thanks! This puts the value back into ithziri, at least for me in this tree, since the beseech is the thing to train for and the escape function doesn't currently work in those realms. Appreciate your help in uncovering this tidbit!

Roblar
11-03-2016, 10:23 PM
Ah, I see the confusion.

The issue is with the base fog ability, the tree manual verbs work (nearly) everywhere. Only rare anti alot of stuff specific rooms block the script's healing, sanctuary, status.

shad0ws0ngs
11-04-2016, 06:46 PM
going twice at 40m, will be sold tomorrow around this time.

macgyver
11-04-2016, 07:52 PM
Again, those robes you have should go for double for whatever this things going for. Plate armor can go either way with these flares as the people who can use them will already have emergency exit moves and the fact that padding and higher enchants could effectively nullify the use of such scripts except for the .0001% odd one off.

But those robes for a monk man... priceless; like doubling a monks survivability chance just through that single piece of gear, insanity!

shad0ws0ngs
11-05-2016, 08:07 PM
sold