View Full Version : Scrips/Tickets at Events
drauz
10-31-2016, 08:40 PM
Would you rather tickets/scrips be different for each event or would you rather have one type of ticket to rule them all!
Gelston
10-31-2016, 08:47 PM
Too many currency types is never a good thing. I honestly would prefer they dropped them all together. They are just filler.
Archigeek
11-01-2016, 12:27 AM
Too many currency types is never a good thing. I honestly would prefer they dropped them all together. They are just filler.
Agreed. Poll needs more options!
Allereli
11-01-2016, 12:29 AM
mandatory no taco option complaint
drauz
11-01-2016, 12:54 AM
So, why do people like multiple tickets for different events?
kcostell
11-01-2016, 01:59 AM
Not all events have the same ease of acquiring tickets. If event X ends up generating tickets much more easily than expected, that would both devalue all existing tickets and make future tickets less attractive too ("why should I bother with this event...it doesn't pay nearly as well as the last one"). Having different sets of tickets helps separate the market.
drauz
11-01-2016, 02:42 AM
Not all events have the same ease of acquiring tickets. If event X ends up generating tickets much more easily than expected, that would both devalue all existing tickets and make future tickets less attractive too ("why should I bother with this event...it doesn't pay nearly as well as the last one"). Having different sets of tickets helps separate the market.
That sounds like its something that could easily be accounted for.
JNewhall
11-01-2016, 08:00 AM
That sounds like its something that could easily be accounted for.
I had the opposite reaction. It sounds to me like something very difficult to account for, unless you use different scrips/tickets.
I would like to see an exchange option. The exchange rate would account for the ease of getting tickets indirectly, by tying it to the supply of tickets in the market (the more of a type of ticket in the market, the lower the return on exchange).
Archigeek
11-01-2016, 09:36 AM
Silvers are a fluid currency usable for whatever you want. Scrip is only usable for a limited period of time, after which, it's fuck ingredients worthless for a while, or forever. This is why scrip blows. It forces me to essentially buy something, a portion of which I won't be able to use till later if at all. Silvers I can use any time I want.
drauz
11-01-2016, 09:40 AM
Silvers are a fluid currency usable for whatever you want. Scrip is only usable for a limited period of time, after which, it's fuck ingredients worthless for a while, or forever. This is why scrip blows. It forces me to essentially buy something, a portion of which I won't be able to use till later if at all. Silvers I can use any time I want.
Thats why I was thinking one "alternative" currency would be better. Its never lost and you don't feel pressured to buy something you might not want because you're not sure that event will run again.
Someone who isn't Me
11-01-2016, 09:56 AM
Upvote for tacos as a primary/universal form of currency.
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Whirlin
11-01-2016, 10:01 AM
Not all events have the same ease of acquiring tickets. If event X ends up generating tickets much more easily than expected, that would both devalue all existing tickets and make future tickets less attractive too ("why should I bother with this event...it doesn't pay nearly as well as the last one"). Having different sets of tickets helps separate the market.
This, especially when you consider that things like Ethereal Scrip from Reim is now also considered a currency.
It doesn't make sense that something like Reim Scrip should be counted the same as Bloodscrip, which should be counted the same as Ebon Gates tickets. The scaling is COMPLETELY different, and balancing that for all events would be impossible.
However, GMs did make DM produce EG tickets, and perhaps the next Reim-esque-type-dungeon, we may see reuse of Ethereal Scrip if you're limited on 1 entry to a dungeon per day... So, GMs aren't afraid to reuse the alternative currencies.
Gelston
11-01-2016, 10:06 AM
This, especially when you consider that things like Ethereal Scrip from Reim is now also considered a currency.
It doesn't make sense that something like Reim Scrip should be counted the same as Bloodscrip, which should be counted the same as Ebon Gates tickets. The scaling is COMPLETELY different, and balancing that for all events would be impossible.
However, GMs did make DM produce EG tickets, and perhaps the next Reim-esque-type-dungeon, we may see reuse of Ethereal Scrip if you're limited on 1 entry to a dungeon per day... So, GMs aren't afraid to reuse the alternative currencies.
If we were to keep these alternate currencies, you could easily scale how much you get. Something that is harder gives more. It would take adjustment, yes.
However, I am of the mind to just abolish the entire system... At least EG tickets and any other temporary/seasonal similarity. To me, EG tickets just fill like "filler" so that you feel like you are still receiving something.
Reim, whatever, that is a permanent thing. That stuff can stay as is. I'd rather it took tickets, but have the items sold work purely on reputation and silver.
Allereli
11-01-2016, 10:11 AM
At least EG tickets and any other temporary/seasonal similarity. To me, EG tickets just fill like "filler" so that you feel like you are still receiving something.
I prefer getting EG tickets to the tons of crap from the feeders. I just wish the redemption options were better.
Jhynnifer
11-01-2016, 10:17 AM
Would you rather tickets/scrips be different for each event or would you rather have one type of ticket to rule them all!
I could see breaking ticket currencies into tiers. I don't think using the same ticket currency for Duskruin and let's say... the winter festival games makes sense. But I think having a paid event currency, a simucoin event currency and a free festival currency might work.
Fallen
11-01-2016, 10:18 AM
Currency that is specific to an event allows those without a lot of silver the opportunity to accumulate silver from rich players. If they wanted, they could make the temporary currency non-transferable, then any prizes/auctions/etc would create an even playing field for everyone at the event. Well, more even than what is normally possible.
drauz
11-01-2016, 10:43 AM
This, especially when you consider that things like Ethereal Scrip from Reim is now also considered a currency.
It doesn't make sense that something like Reim Scrip should be counted the same as Bloodscrip, which should be counted the same as Ebon Gates tickets. The scaling is COMPLETELY different, and balancing that for all events would be impossible.
However, GMs did make DM produce EG tickets, and perhaps the next Reim-esque-type-dungeon, we may see reuse of Ethereal Scrip if you're limited on 1 entry to a dungeon per day... So, GMs aren't afraid to reuse the alternative currencies.
Well I don't think tickets that can be acquired by silvers (eg tickets) should be included. I was more thinking about simucoin only events, such as DM and DR. I get the feeling more of these types of events might be coming along, but who knows.
Roblar
11-01-2016, 10:47 AM
Tiers sound fine or a an automated npc/process that converts from one to another or into silvers (with careful knowledge of each these unique conversion ratios).
Automatically converting into silvers is likely to be mechanically discouraged, see Reim. Player conversion within marketplace is more efficient based on prizes and demand.
Other option is adjusting prize values for every existing quest or event and probably a larger pia.
Jhynnifer
11-01-2016, 11:04 AM
Tiers sound fine or a an automated npc/process that converts from one to another or into silvers (with careful knowledge of each these unique conversion ratios).
Automatically converting into silvers is likely to be mechanically discouraged, see Reim. Player conversion within marketplace is more efficient based on prizes and demand.
Other option is adjusting prize values for every existing quest or event and probably a larger pia.
Well I think part of the reason we're seeing these currencies is to devalue silver, so I'm not sure we'd ever convince them to convert tickets into actual silver.
Roblar
11-01-2016, 11:13 AM
They do for Reim but at a bad rate.
I'm fine as is actually but perhaps tiers or the option to convert (especially from discontinued events/quests or those with no chance at redemption for extended periods) should be looked into if more new ones are introduced.
Kembal
11-01-2016, 11:15 AM
I don't mind separate scrips/tickets, as long as there is an exchange method. Right now, I'm holding on to 150 blackscrip from Troubled Waters, and I have no idea what to do with them.
Jhynnifer
11-01-2016, 11:19 AM
I don't mind separate scrips/tickets, as long as there is an exchange method. Right now, I'm holding on to 150 blackscrip from Troubled Waters, and I have no idea what to do with them.
Buy some cobbling totes and sell them. Cobbler loves dem.
Archigeek
11-01-2016, 11:20 AM
Thats why I was thinking one "alternative" currency would be better. Its never lost and you don't feel pressured to buy something you might not want because you're not sure that event will run again.
How is an alternative currency any different than scrip or tickets? Those ARE alternative currencies.
Roblar
11-01-2016, 11:26 AM
I don't mind separate scrips/tickets, as long as there is an exchange method. Right now, I'm holding on to 150 blackscrip from Troubled Waters, and I have no idea what to do with them.
The shanty is open 24/7 and the inventory automatically rotates quarterly.
drauz
11-01-2016, 07:27 PM
How is an alternative currency any different than scrip or tickets? Those ARE alternative currencies.
I'm saying to consolidate down to ONE alternative currency. It might take a little work at the beginning to find proper exchange rates but once you are past that it would just be up to the GMs to regulate ticket generation at future events to be equal to each other in terms of SC cost.
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