Simucon 2016: Self-Knowledge Mystic Focus (1711) Runestaff - 5x

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Currently accepting silvers at current market rate. (CMR= $10/mil). Item can be delivered to any city on the main land without charge including FWI. Auction will go once, twice, last call and sold. Updated every 24 hours. Lowball bids will be ignored.


Up for Auction: 2016 Drama Runestaff

a slender variegated lor runestaff capped with a fist-shaped green eostone
5x, Self-Knowledge Mystic Focus (1711) +6 Stam Recovery / + 6 Mana Recovery - Runestaff


The first thing that strikes you about the runestaff is the weight, which is about 3 pounds. In your best estimation, it's worth about 43,000,000 silvers. You can also tell that the variegated lor runestaff is predominantly crafted of lor.
It has a bonus of +25 from a normal runestaff, and the way it vibrates in tune with your voice tells you that it requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.

The runestaff resonates with your voice, indicating that it enhances its owner in the following ways:
Imparts knowledge of spell 1711.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Stamina Recovery.
It provides a bonus of 6 to Mana Recovery.
The runestaff looks to have almost innumerable charges remaining.

You sense that the variegated lor runestaff will persist after its last enhancive charge has been expended.

>inc 1711
Mirage-like distortions surround you as you prepare the Mystic Focus spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
A sudden clarity of thought comes over you, and you realize that you now understand arcane mysteries that were previously incomprehensible.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>
[ Mystic Focus: +0:05:00, 0:04:59 remaining. ]

Like a faint wisp of a barely-remembered dream, your brief, enhanced comprehension of arcane mysteries slips away.

Mystic Focus: +10 CS, immune to spellburst. Also will not be stripped/dispelled in any self-spelled area. Non-stackable.

Minimum bid: 100 Million Silvers
Buyout: One Fiddy Meeelllllionnnsss

SOLD!!

[Haldrik]

You have some fucking balls of steel. Stupidly bid 120m at the live simucon auction and attempt to resell it within 24 hours? What was your sell price 500m?


Honestly, if you were bidding just to flip, let someone else have it. Especially at the Simucon auction.

Edit:
Looks like Arcane is immune to spellburst. Still a shit choice and a sad move.

[blanks]

You have some fucking balls of steel. Stupidly bid 120m at the live simucon auction and attempt to resell it within 24 hours? What was your sell price 500m? And to top the stupidity, you choose Mystic Focus on a Runestaff.

You do realize that you lose self-knowledge if you put the Runestaff away. That's right. You just bid 120m silver for a spell that gives +10 CS and in the process gave up: Fusion runestaffs, acuity runestaff, nerve runestaff, etc etc etc. Good bye spellburst, self-spell only areas.

Honestly, if you were bidding just to flip, let someone else have it. Especially at the Simucon auction.

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[Menos]

You have some fucking balls of steel. Stupidly bid 120m at the live simucon auction and attempt to resell it within 24 hours? What was your sell price 500m? And to top the stupidity, you choose Mystic Focus on a Runestaff.

You do realize that you lose self-knowledge if you put the Runestaff away. That's right. You just bid 120m silver for a spell that gives +10 CS and in the process gave up: Fusion runestaffs, acuity runestaff, nerve runestaff, etc etc etc. Good bye spellburst, self-spell only areas.

Honestly, if you were bidding just to flip, let someone else have it. Especially at the Simucon auction.

I don't think arcane spells count for spellburst. I am not sure about the self spell effects in the rift though.

[Haldrik]

I don't think arcane spells count for spellburst. I am not sure about the self spell effects in the rift though.

Yeah. Looks like its immune to rift stripping. Scatter? Or the new areas?

[WRoss]

Did this person really bid 120m? I don't remember it going that high.

[blanks]

I don't think arcane spells count for spellburst. I am not sure about the self spell effects in the rift though.

GM Tamuz confirmed that Mystic Focus (1711) is an arcane spell and not affected by spellburst, spell strip, or self-spelled area. It is usable in any situation that one would use a heavy quartz orb.

[Haldrik]

Did this person really bid 120m? I don't remember it going that high.

That was the price listed in the other thread. Unless it was a typo.


#18 1711 spell enhancive runestaff - 5x - +6 mana recovery/+6 stamina recovery -- Sold for 120m to Tservin

[WRoss]

I think it went for like 50 or 60

[Menos]

That was the price listed in the other thread. Unless it was a typo.


#18 1711 spell enhancive runestaff - 5x - +6 mana recovery/+6 stamina recovery -- Sold for 120m to Tservin

That list also said I bid 21 million on something and won it.

[Haldrik]

Ha well it was posted by Alastir.

More profit for Tservin!

[Helsfeld]

You have some fucking balls of steel. Stupidly bid 120m at the live simucon auction and attempt to resell it within 24 hours? What was your sell price 500m?


Honestly, if you were bidding just to flip, let someone else have it. Especially at the Simucon auction.

Edit:
Looks like Arcane is immune to spellburst. Still a shit choice and a sad move.

Who cares if he resells it atleast it gives others a chance not there to when said item?

[Haldrik]

Who cares if he resells it atleast it gives others a chance not there to when said item?

Two opinions then. In my mind the Simucon auction is about rewarding the most loyal players. Some of which maybe can't afford leet uber gear. I know people who have had Simucon auction gear for a long long time. Then you get Tservin in the mix who is just trying to make a few dollars, and it taints it.

[Fallen]

There's nothing wrong with exploiting a situation to get something for a low price and selling high, simucon or not. As long as the item's properties aren't being misrepresented.

[Cereal Killer]

Yeah, everyone who was there at the auction had the chance to outbid him. It's fair play for him to try to flip it.

[Haldrik]

Yeah, everyone who was there at the auction had the chance to outbid him. It's fair play for him to try to flip it.

Cool. So I'll just show up next year, buy every item, and then flip them on PC. Fair is fair.

[Zaigh]

Cool. So I'll just show up next year, buy every item, and then flip them on PC. Fair is fair.

Limited to one auction item per person, though there are some cool free for alls that get offered, and most of them also can be bid on by folks in the chat so you don't even need to be here for them. I know at least 2 went to the chat this year.

[Haldrik]

Limited to one auction item per person, though there are some cool free for alls that get offered, and most of them also can be bid on by folks in the chat so you don't even need to be here for them. I know at least 2 went to the chat this year.

Ahh so there are some rules to keep it fair. I guess fair isn't fair.

Didn't realize there was a chat auction. Bummer.

[SashaFierce]

That list also said I bid 21 million on something and won it.

The prices were accurate, the names not so much, nobody said their name in the stream. I had to rely on who I could see and who I knew.

[SashaFierce]

Ahh so there are some rules to keep it fair. I guess fair isn't fair.

Didn't realize there was a chat auction. Bummer.


Could you stop being a douche for 2 seconds. Please? It won't kill you to be a decent human being. You do realize this is a community game and you're alienating yourself from EVERY ONE.

[Allereli]

There's nothing wrong with exploiting a situation to get something for a low price and selling high, simucon or not. As long as the item's properties aren't being misrepresented.

buy my glamour crystal (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?103633-Glamour-crystal-A-hooded-figure) :)

[Gelston]

So you were just crying like a little girl when you were missing all the relevant tidbits of information.

[ZeP]

So you were just crying like a little girl when you were missing all the relevant tidbits of information.

Much like you, when you try to talk to me. :lol:

[Fallen]

buy my glamour crystal (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?103633-Glamour-crystal-A-hooded-figure) :)

I need to bring E back first!

[Gelston]

I need to bring E back first!

I never liked glamour crystals, it covers up sweet outfits.

[Warriorbird]

I never liked glamour crystals, it covers up sweet outfits.

Yeah. Glamour crystals/shadowsilk cloaks = Simu's 'make you boring' items.

[Fallen]

I like it because it hides the Gypsy look when you're decked out in enhancives.

They're like feature concealers. It gives you the option of revealing more of yourself during interactions in a meaningful way.

[Gelston]

Yeah. Glamour crystals/shadowsilk cloaks = Simu's 'make you boring' items.

Well, I mean for people who don't care about outfits and stuff, it is cool. I wish they had them back in the day when looking at an Empath was a book.

[Allereli]

I never liked glamour crystals, it covers up sweet outfits.

yeah I had to have Durakar explain to me why I would want to hide my pretty outfits

[Sylvan Dreams]

Glamour crystals can remove a lot of assumptions people can make about a character based on appearance. They lend a little bit of mystery to the character.

It can also drive fashionistas crazy with curiosity as to what you're wearing. I don't remember who it was but there used to be someone who would whisper to me that she was bothered with curiosity about my outfits, LOL.

[Warriorbird]

I like it because it hides the Gypsy look when you're decked out in enhancives.

They're like feature concealers. It gives you the option of revealing more of yourself during interactions in a meaningful way.

I'd much rather a series of concealers though. I spent far too much for Trader swag concealment in DR that didn't crush my whole outfit completely.

I understand the motivation for the concealers that have interesting forms. A lot of them were fairly silly for a long time though.

[Androidpk]

I like it because it hides the Gypsy look when you're decked out in enhancives.

They're like feature concealers. It gives you the option of revealing more of yourself during interactions in a meaningful way.

Real men don't need enhancives.

[Fallen]

Real men don't need enhancives.

That makes no sense.

[Androidpk]

That makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense.

[Fallen]

It makes perfect sense.

Don't make me side with Latrin, dammit. You sound like a crazy person.

[Haldrik]

I stand corrected, feel free to put the item back up for sale.

[Androidpk]

Don't make me side with Latrin, dammit. You sound like a crazy person.

What's crazy about what I said??

[Seran]

Honestly, if you were bidding just to flip, let someone else have it. Especially at the Simucon auction.

You're shaming someone for wanting to profit from being in the right place at the right time to make a fantastic buy? You're an idiot.

[SHAFT]

Real men don't need enhancives.

Everyone wants a bigger dick.

[Kronius]

Two opinions then. In my mind the Simucon auction is about rewarding the most loyal players. Some of which maybe can't afford leet uber gear. I know people who have had Simucon auction gear for a long long time. Then you get Tservin in the mix who is just trying to make a few dollars, and it taints it.

I agree with the first part of your statement. One of the objectives of the Simucon auction is to incentivize / reward those who make the pilgrimage to St Louis. Secondly, it's fun.

I don't have a problem with anyone going there for cheap items to resell later. Why? I did it last year. I won the cloak of shadows for 10mil and sold it for more than ten times that amount. I still had trouble parting with it because it's so badass and fit my character. In any case, it paid for my entire trip, flight/hotel/food/booze. So I basically got a free vacation out of it. Will everyone get that lucky? Doubtful, but the opportunity is there (or was there, not sure if the level of items were there this year). If that is what it takes to return SimuCon to previous glory, I really have no problem with that at all, and I doubt the GMs who run it do either.

[Gelston]

I agree with the first part of your statement. One of the objectives of the Simucon auction is to incentivize / reward those who make the pilgrimage to St Louis. Secondly, it's fun.

I don't have a problem with anyone going there for cheap items to resell later. Why? I did it last year. I won the cloak of shadows for 10mil and sold it for more than ten times that amount. I still had trouble parting with it because it's so badass and fit my character. In any case, it paid for my entire trip, flight/hotel/food/booze. So I basically got a free vacation out of it. Will everyone get that lucky? Doubtful, but the opportunity is there (or was there, not sure if the level of items were there this year). If that is what it takes to return SimuCon to previous glory, I really have no problem with that at all, and I doubt the GMs who run it do either.

The second part of your statement is on point.

[Haldrik]

I agree with the first part of your statement. One of the objectives of the Simucon auction is to incentivize / reward those who make the pilgrimage to St Louis. Secondly, it's fun.

I don't have a problem with anyone going there for cheap items to resell later. Why? I did it last year. I won the cloak of shadows for 10mil and sold it for more than ten times that amount. I still had trouble parting with it because it's so badass and fit my character. In any case, it paid for my entire trip, flight/hotel/food/booze. So I basically got a free vacation out of it. Will everyone get that lucky? Doubtful, but the opportunity is there (or was there, not sure if the level of items were there this year). If that is what it takes to return SimuCon to previous glory, I really have no problem with that at all, and I doubt the GMs who run it do either.

This is an example of why the DR scrip shop is priced insanely. SIMU doesn't want players making money off their shit. If a few more people get it into their heads to try for a "free vacation", SIMU gets a whiff, and poof, no more cheap auction. Or account bound, or any number of other mechanics to combat this.

[Kronius]

This is an example of why the DR scrip shop is priced insanely. SIMU doesn't want players making money off their shit. If a few more people get it into their heads to try for a "free vacation", SIMU gets a whiff, and poof, no more cheap auction. Or account bound, or any number of other mechanics to combat this.

Maybe in other circumstances, but in this case... no.

[Haldrik]

Maybe in other circumstances, but in this case... no.

We'll see. Tservin was bragging on LNET earlier how GMs were buying items at the Simucon auction to resell for profit. Doesn't sound good for business.

[SashaFierce]

We'll see. Tservin was bragging on LNET earlier how GMs were buying items at the Simucon auction to resell for profit. Doesn't sound good for business.

Because they're GM's they don't deserve nice things for their characters?

Get over yourself.

[Haldrik]

Because they're GM's they don't deserve nice things for their characters?

Get over yourself.

Did you even read my post? You actually think its OK for a GM to buy items at a GM auction to resell for $$$ profit? The stupidity in this thread is unparalleled.

[SashaFierce]

Did you even read my post? You actually think its OK for a GM to buy items at a GM auction to resell for $$$ profit? The stupidity in this thread is unparalleled.

You act like you've never bought something and resold it for profit.

The hypocrisy is unparalleled.

[blanks]

Did you even read my post? You actually think its OK for a GM to buy items at a GM auction to resell for $$$ profit? The stupidity in this thread is unparalleled.

Literally half of the thread is your posts.

[Allereli]

Did you even read my post? You actually think its OK for a GM to buy items at a GM auction to resell for $$$ profit? The stupidity in this thread is unparalleled.

none of the players there had any problem with the GMs buying in and taking part, or at least cared enough to say anything, so I don't know why you would.

[SashaFierce]

none of the players there had any problem with the GMs buying in and taking part, or at least cared enough to say anything, so I don't know why you would.

From what I saw, most of the GM's let players have the items they wanted. Estild for instance took one of the passed items that nobody else appeared to want.

It's not like the GM's took something from a player.

I'm not sure who Kalros thinks was wronged in the auction.

He appears to be white knighting for nobody. I guess that's his thing now. Social Justice Warrior.

[Haldrik]

You act like you've never bought something and resold it for profit.

The hypocrisy is unparalleled.

Hypocrisy requires a similar situation. GMs create the items, influence decisions, make policy decisions, can enhance/degrade rarity, etc etc. To imply our situations are the same is outright idiotic.

[Haldrik]

none of the players there had any problem with the GMs buying in and taking part, or at least cared enough to say anything, so I don't know why you would.

I don't know anything about the situation beyond what Tservin was bragging about on LNET. He said something akin to "GMs buy items to make profit too." How else should I interpret it? It could be about this auction, or other auctions.

[Astray]

Looks like this topic got dunked on.

[Allereli]

How else should I interpret it?

that you're gullible

[Nephelem]

I don't think the GMs who took part in the auction had any advantage over the players, which is why no one had an issue with it. I know at least one GM had designed an item for the auction and didn't even know if it would be included (it wasn't). The items were completely described pre-auction, so there was no secret knowledge of properties in their possession. If they want to try and profit on a win post-auction like some of the players then I don't see a problem.

And if you want to score items, or bid up everyone else, come to Simucon next year. :)

[Warriorbird]

I'm struggling to see what the problem is here. It'd be an issue if there wasn't full disclosure (Tsin style) about the item limitations but it turns out to be actually better than the critique.

If he sets a good price it should sell.

[Ososis]

if the best idea a GM can come up with for bending the game to their favor is to bid against players in a public auction then we really are in trouble.

[Warriorbird]

Didn't they only bid on stuff other people didn't bid on?

[Nephelem]

They bid against players, and even each other on several items.

[Warriorbird]

They bid against players, and even each other on several items.

Ouch. That seems like an issue. Probably deserves its own thread though with the details.

[Nephelem]

I don't recall them bidding on anything that was even approaching market value. I don't recall them bidding 10+ million for anything at all. No one lost out on an item because they couldn't afford to outbid a GM. They just didn't want it as much. The GM's are spending their own silver, same as the players.

Just a quick rundown of how it goes (this year) for those who haven't attended. We bother the GM's Wed night through Fri evening about whats going to be in the auction. They ignore us. Within an hour of the start of auction they hand out a list of the items by lot number. This list includes all the properties of the items. This year the list also included upfront minimum bids on some items. I believe this was actually a mistake and was supposed to serve as a hidden reserve like last years auction. Along with the 30 or so listed items they add some unlisted to the mix. This makes it more interesting and I think its in response to more people upgrading to auction tier at the con. Each person can only win one item. After that you cannot bid again. Doing so required everyone to take a drink in this year's drunk auction. There are also some free-for-all items that can be bid on by anyone, including non-auction tier attendees and chat members. The general trend is that everything goes for some pretty awesomely low prices other than a couple each year that draw in a few with deep pockets. Some of the free-for-all RP experience stuff can get fairly pricey if chat is allowed to bid as well. Much hilarity and drinking ensues, and by the end our auctioneer is slurring out bids and losing track of the auction order and it is fantastic.

[Haldrik]

Ouch. That seems like an issue. Probably deserves its own thread though with the details.

Agreed. I don't know the details except Tservin was being shady and hinting at having some inside knowledge. Maybe he was just running his mouth. Or maybe not.

[blanks]

Agreed. I don't know the details except Tservin was being shady and hinting at having some inside knowledge. Maybe he was just running his mouth. Or maybe not.

You're awfully good at making up shit, and then going back to re-edit your posts after realizing what a huge fucking uneducated idiot you are.

Mr. I'm so good with logs. Please stop editing your posts, and show us all this *proof* you have. Because from the very first *edited* post you made... You just spewed a bunch of made up bullshit... Oh wait, thats everything you speak.

I really don't know what your problem is, I honestly thought you would be good for the community with the type of skills/scripting abilities you posses, but you rather just make a complete mockery of yourself.

But hey... Look you won, Haldrik/Kalros... You got me to come back to the thread to respond to your childish trolling. You win. Congratulations.


P.S.


If you really want to know that much about the Simucon... Why not just do what I did, and fucking go?

P.S. Before you bitch and complain like the little brat you are, you should do some research.

Did you also know that you have to donate/pay $75.00 first before even knowing what type of items will be on the list?



Long story short...

Stop being such a little bitch. Wait, lemme *re-edit* this post real quick before people can quote me on the idiocy I am. (Its also a bitch move to make a bot to spew shit against another player, grow up, or at least be a man about it, and don't hide behind a f2p account.)

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Oh, and to answer your original question.

Does my balls leave that taste of metallic in your mouth?

[Haldrik]

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Discussions%20with%20Simutronics/The%20Bad,%20and%20the%20Ugly%20(general%20complai nts)/view/14357

[SashaFierce]

http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Discussions%20with%20Simutronics/The%20Bad,%20and%20the%20Ugly%20(general%20complai nts)/view/14357





Disturbing rumor about GMs "making money" by flipping items. on 08/23/2016 04:10 AM EDT


Hi,

First, there is _zero_ evidence about any GM wrong doing and I have no idea what happened at Simucon. However, Tservin was chatting about GM's making money by selling items. It's entirely possible that Tservin had no idea what he was talking, but I feel this needs to be discussed. It's out in the open now and it's leaving a bad taste in my mouth as well as a lot of others.

I really have no problem with GMs bidding on auctions or whatever, but there is always a risk of manipulation and I wonder if there is any checks in place. But seriously, I would like nothing more then for Wyrom to sweep in and say how utterly ridiculous this is.

The topic came up because Tservin/Blanks had been telling everyone he just goes to events to buy items and sell them for real $$.

[Merchant]-You: "wb tservin. i guess you werent kidding when you said you only show up for events so you can make money" (17:37:41)
[Merchant]-GSIV:Tservin: "Nope. I was quite up front about it at Simucon also." (17:38:05)
[Merchant]-GSIV:Tservin: "Oh. P.S. GMs don't care. They bid on items to make money too =)" (17:38:31)
[Merchant]-GSIV:Tservin: "You should pay closer attention to the Simucon auction list, you'll see GMs bought a few items and bidded =)" (17:39:27)


Thank you.


I wonder if they would ban him if we all collectively assist, email Wyrom and feedback that he's lessening the enjoyment of the game.

[Haldrik]

I wonder if they would ban him if we all collectively assist, email Wyrom and feedback that he's lessening the enjoyment of the game.

Tservin makes accusations that GMs are profiting off item sales and you DON'T want to discuss it?

[SashaFierce]

Tservin makes accusations that GMs are profiting off item sales and you DON'T want to discuss it?

You overreact to every situation and create havoc everywhere you go and don't expect to be banned?


Edit: Nice delete on your post. Glad I copied it before you had a chance to make it disappear.

[Haldrik]

You overreact to every situation and create havoc everywhere you go and don't expect to be banned?


Edit: Nice delete on your post. Glad I copied it before you had a chance to make it disappear.

You would be banned 100x over for "overreacting". And I didn't delete my post, looks like it was pulled.

[MrMortimur]

Tservin makes accusations that GMs are profiting off item sales and you DON'T want to discuss it?

GMs are players too. As long as they aren't using their GM powers to create items for their PCs there is no issue. Hell they already have a lot of restrictions on their PCs, like not being allowed to attend things like rtcf,ccf and other limited ticket events.

[chalion]

You would be banned 100x over for "overreacting". And I didn't delete my post, looks like it was pulled.

http://i.imgur.com/eSQXbMV.jpg

[Hoodtralfeck]

i was at the con and got the bubble flare service for 3 million and sold it for ALOT more then that . and i didnt buy the aauction tier til i seen the list , lol . im also looking forward to the argent mirror meeting i won fer 100 silvers , or was it 1000 silvers ? i cant recall

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Updated.


Dis Drama Staff is now up for sale.

[ElevenElven]

Self knowledge 1711 sounds pretty cool, until you see the price tag. Then you go back to your heavy charged orbs and start to not care that they're so heavy.

[ElevenElven]

To the red rep "shitting on threads is considered poor form" go read through the 8 pages of garbage on this thread and give them all red rep for "shitting on the thread" at least my post was actually on the subject. Damn thread nazi.

[Thondalar]

To the red rep "shitting on threads is considered poor form" go read through the 8 pages of garbage on this thread and give them all red rep for "shitting on the thread" at least my post was actually on the subject. Damn thread nazi.

Not sure you understand what that term means.

[ElevenElven]

I'm not sure they know what it means, considering all I said was "hey, this runestaff makes me not care that quartz orbs are so heavy because they're cheap but self knowledge 1711 seems pretty cool."

The retardation level in this thread is seriously too high, even for Gemstone.

[Thondalar]

I'm not sure they know what it means, considering all I said was "hey, this runestaff makes me not care that quartz orbs are so heavy because they're cheap but self knowledge 1711 seems pretty cool."

The retardation level in this thread is seriously too high, even for Gemstone.

That's shitting on a sales thread. If someone is selling something, you don't post things to bring down the value of the item being sold. You bid on it or you don't.

[Hoodtralfeck]

i dont know how to copy someone else quote with the boxed in words and there name and all that si i just highlighted it and copy/pasted it . If someone knows how to do it left me know please . here the best i could do

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Quote Originally Posted by WRoss View Post
Did this person really bid 120m? I don't remember it going that high.
That was the price listed in the other thread. Unless it was a typo.


#18 1711 spell enhancive runestaff - 5x - +6 mana recovery/+6 stamina recovery -- Sold for 120m to Tservin

where this the simucon live auction thread at? i would like to see it please

[Roblar]

where this the simucon live auction thread at? i would like to see it please

You click on the Reply with Quote

Also, here is the link, post #34

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?103616-Simucon-News/page4&highlight=simucon

[blanks]

Updated.

Will take cash at current market rate. (CMR = $10/mil)

[blanks]

Flash Sale!

[Methais]

lol @ this item

[blanks]

Updated.

Thanks for all the drama, but this item is now considered SOLD!