What a big fat giant turdstain

[Nieninque]

Callinar chants a reverent litany and clasps his hands while tightly focusing his thoughts...
Callinar gestures at Indoctrination.
CS: +508 - TD: +105 + CvA: +12 + d100: +45 - -5 == +465
Warding failed!
As Callinar stares intensely at Indoctrination, a black film covers Indoctrination's eyes.
Indoctrination appears dazed.

>
Callinar quietly says, "Stupid name tax."

[Skeeter]

fantastic roleplay :rolleyes:

[Caramia]

So Callinar is a self-appointed name police who thinks he's above policy to handle OOC things in the game that are only enforceable by the GMs? Nice. Guess who the GMs are going to have a chat with first?

[Alarke]

Yes.. horrible, but on the same note, so are 90% of the paladin names i've seen. I don't condone the action, but.. seriously.

[AnticorRifling]

I agree the name is stupid but that was handled poorly

[Sylvan Dreams]

Edited to say: Nevermind, I went back and reread it.

[Edited on 12-1-2004 by Sylvan Dreams]

[4a6c1]

I love that name. I think its appropriate. Better than Kittypur. :S

[Mistomeer]

LOL, coming from someone who plays Snowdrop, I could see how making fun of someone's name hits close to home.

Callinar doesn't claim to RP, that I know of, but given that GS is an environment where disbelief has to be suspended, for the most part, in terms of names, I fail to see how making fun of someone's name, when it's assumed that you already know it, is bad RP.

Edited to add:
Oh, yes, I agree, it's an asshole thing to do, but when you RP an ass, I don't see it as being bad RP. If not introducing yourself to every new person you meet is bad RP, 98% of the game is guilty of it.

[Edited on 12-1-2004 by Mistomeer]

[pennywise]

Callinar should have hit him with a banjo.

Signed
Propaganda

[Brattt8525]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
LOL, coming from someone who plays Snowdrop, I could see how making fun of someone's name hits close to home.

Callinar doesn't claim to RP, that I know of, but given that GS is an environment where disbelief has to be suspended, for the most part, in terms of names, I fail to see how making fun of someone's name, when it's assumed that you already know it, is bad RP.

Edited to add:
Oh, yes, I agree, it's an asshole thing to do, but when you RP an ass, I don't see it as being bad RP. If not introducing yourself to every new person you meet is bad RP, 98% of the game is guilty of it.

[Edited on 12-1-2004 by Mistomeer]

I actually found it humorous, I mean how many times in school did another student make fun of another kid for his name? Heck the guys I hung out with would give swirlies to some guy with a lame name.

Not sure what all happened other then what Nien posted, but it did make me chuckle.

[Betheny]

Callinar is definitely a steaming turd from the ass of a rabid, STD-infested whore.

[DeV]

It was a dumb thing to do. If you're going to involve another character in your in game actions strive for at least mediocre role play.

But wait?!

How could he have known the name of the fellow bad-namer without having being properly introduced with by the book RP etiquette? :rolleyes:

[pennywise]

Well, look at it this way, if someone would have taken Indoctrination asides weeks ago, and killed his sorry ass over and over, forcing him to say "Oh god, Im so sorry, Oh god, Im so sorry", this wouldnt have been a problem.

[pennywise]

Oh, and by the way.

"Callinar is definitely a steaming turd from the ass of a rabid, STD-infested whore. "

What another classic Maimara one liner.
Hahaha, she is so intelligent and funny.

[Soulpieced]

The problem is all these idiots with stupid names probably are *not* people new to Gemstone...

[DeV]

Or maybe if the GM's would perform that aspect of their job properly, players wouldn't take it upon themsleves to be the name police.

[Mistomeer]

The sad thing isn't that GM's don't actively seek out people with bad names and fix it, it's that if you report someone for having an awful name they do nothing about it.

[Sweets]

Originally posted by Maimara
Callinar is definitely a steaming turd from the ass of a rabid, STD-infested whore.

How to effectively get your emotions across by Maimara.

This one made me nearly spit out my sprite.

[Betheny]

I should write a book.

It's funny, I was having a conversation with someone the other day. He said, "How do you think of these things?" They come off the top of my head. It's sometimes a struggle not to say them out loud.

[Caramia]

It's not about whether GMs deal with names YOU think are stupid and shouldn't be here, you aren't the one who gets to decide what names are good or bad right now, or get to enforce policy. When that changes, have a party!

Still, it was an OOC thing to do, not an assholic RP thing to do. You need consent to kill someone in the game -- and having a stupid name doesn't grant you consent.

[Edited on 12/1/2004 by Caramia]

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
LOL, coming from someone who plays Snowdrop, I could see how making fun of someone's name hits close to home.


he didnt make fun of someone's name, wanker. He cast at someone because of their name.

:blah::blah::blah:

Edited to add:
Oh, yes, I agree, it's an asshole thing to do...[snip]


Glad you get the point :)

[Kainen]

Originally posted by pennywise
Well, look at it this way, if someone would have taken Indoctrination asides weeks ago, and killed his sorry ass over and over, forcing him to say "Oh god, Im so sorry, Oh god, Im so sorry", this wouldnt have been a problem.

Bullshit.. the ONLY one's who have shit to say about someone's name is the GM's.. period. To appoint yourself name-police should be punishable by having your surname changed to "Assmunch". For god's sake.. get over it.

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Kainen

Bullshit.. the ONLY one's who have shit to say about someone's name is the GM's.. period. To appoint yourself name-police should be punishable by having your surname changed to "Assmunch". For god's sake.. get over it.

Wrong, your name is part of your IG persona. To ignore your name is to ignore part of your character, so if you want to make fun of someone's dumbass name, it's perfectly acceptable. I don't think you should go around attacking people based on names, but there's nothing wrong with giving people shit about their stupid names.
Besides, if only GM's were to say things about names, then no one would ever say anything about names.

[Kainen]

Originally posted by Mistomeer

Originally posted by Kainen

Bullshit.. the ONLY one's who have shit to say about someone's name is the GM's.. period. To appoint yourself name-police should be punishable by having your surname changed to "Assmunch". For god's sake.. get over it.

Wrong, your name is part of your IG persona. To ignore your name is to ignore part of your character, so if you want to make fun of someone's dumbass name, it's perfectly acceptable. I don't think you should go around attacking people based on names, but there's nothing wrong with giving people shit about their stupid names.
Besides, if only GM's were to say things about names, then no one would ever say anything about names.

I was commenting on the asshole stunning him then saying it was for a bad name tax.. had he just gaven him some shit about it.. we wouldn't be hearing about this. This will teach me to be more specific. :)

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Mistomeer

Wrong, your name is part of your IG persona. To ignore your name is to ignore part of your character, so if you want to make fun of someone's dumbass name, it's perfectly acceptable. I don't think you should go around attacking people based on names, but there's nothing wrong with giving people shit about their stupid names.
Besides, if only GM's were to say things about names, then no one would ever say anything about names.

Agreed.

Appropriate:

Callinar: Whats your name, [insert race or other descriptive noun here]?
Indoctrination: Indoctrination...
Callinar: Geez. Did your parents hate you or something?

Or something funnier

:shrug:

Inappropriate:
Callinar casts at indoctination as soon as he walks in the room.
Callinar: Stupid Name tax.

One would be appropriate and involve a minimal amount of roleplaying
The other is retarded and makes him look like a wanker.

[Amaron]

Gm's do take the time to get names changed when they are reported... and IF they are against policy.


example:

Last night I was in Ta'Vaalor mentoring and a true newbie popped up.

His name was Billygoatman.

I reported it and a GM poofed in while I was talking with the fella. The gm asked me to explain about the name and when he was ready the gm would take him to change it.

I explained policy and had him read policy 6

I then offered to help him think of a new name and we came up with one. The GM poofed him away and he came back changed and I helped him out...

Some newbies just don't get it until you spell it out.

Take the time to report names you are sure are against policy, not just names you dislike and something does get done.


J

[Nilandia]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
To ignore your name is to ignore part of your character.
While that is true, on a completely unrelated tangent, there are characters who do want to ignore that part of their character. For example, I play a character whose name translated into Common means "Shadow." She will give her name simply as Shadow, at least the few that have actually seen her and spoken with her. Her name, chosen from the mangler, is not Shadow, however, but Arasan, but she has never spoken it, and people have luckily been very good about abiding by that. I've only had a couple people slip and call her Arasan, and they have admitted that they shouldn't have when I whispered to them.

Arasan's true name, however, is unknown, as she will never so much as breathe it. It is part of her back story, but in short, she left her homeland as soon as she was able and came to the Landing to hone her skills and because it was far from home (so few people would recognize her). Before she arrived, she burned everything that would give any clue as to her identity and dressed in black, covering herself from head to toe. While doing so, she left her real name behind and took the name "Arasan," or Shadow, because she chose that she would live within the shadows.

I really should play her more often. She's the closest thing I have to an evil character. She's completely cold, calculating, logical, distant and aloof, as if she were devoid of feeling or emotion. Add that to that she is literally always hiding and never speaks unless absolutely necessary, and people get really nervous around her.

Fun times...

Nilandia

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think it's kind of extreme to think that people won't call a person by their name. I won't ever put the effort into saying "hi there person number 134123413, I've not met you, what is your name?"

I'm just lazy or not an uber roleplayer. We are all, in my mind, notorious because we are hero's in the lands. The plain folks are the characters in the background of room descriptions.

[DeV]

In the same sense its extreme to just approach someone cast at them and say the action is a tax on their name and that's the only interaction you've had with them.

He could have used a better approach.

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by DarkelfVold
Or maybe if the GM's would perform that aspect of their job properly, players wouldn't take it upon themsleves to be the name police. Maybe if the GMs would perform that aspect of their job properly, sorry ass fucktards who took it upon themselves to be the name police'd be locked out, because it ain't their fucking business.

[pennywise]

Maybe if the GMs did there job properly, sorry ass fucktards who pick a crappy ass fucktard name with doesnt fucktard properly in the fucking game wouldnt be around for fucktards to have to fucking tax.

I hope that was understandable to to you Galleazzo

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by pennywise]

[DeV]

They don't get a paycheck from Simutronics therefore they shouldn't be doing a GM's job.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by pennywise
Maybe if the GMs did there job properly, sorry ass fucktards who pick a crappy ass fucktard name with doesnt fucktard properly in the fucking game wouldnt be around for fucktards to have to fucking tax.

I hope that was understandable to to you Galleazzo

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by pennywise]

If he understands that, he can read dyslexic better than I can, because it made no sense to me :shrug:

[Edited on 2-12-04 by Nieninque]

[Scott]

Originally posted by Nieninque

Originally posted by pennywise
Maybe if the GMs did there job properly, sorry ass fucktards who pick a crappy ass fucktard name with doesnt fucktard properly in the fucking game wouldnt be around for fucktards to have to fucking tax.

I hope that was understandable to to you Galleazzo

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by pennywise]

If he understands that, he can read dyslexic better than I can, because it made no sense to me :shrug:

[Edited on 2-12-04 by Nieninque]

I think he was making a crack at how Galleazzo isn't able to make a post without having some variation of "fuck" in it.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Scott

Originally posted by Nieninque

Originally posted by pennywise
Maybe if the GMs did there job properly, sorry ass fucktards who pick a crappy ass fucktard name with doesnt fucktard properly in the fucking game wouldnt be around for fucktards to have to fucking tax.

I hope that was understandable to to you Galleazzo

[Edited on 12-2-2004 by pennywise]

If he understands that, he can read dyslexic better than I can, because it made no sense to me :shrug:

[Edited on 2-12-04 by Nieninque]

I think he was making a crack at how Galleazzo isn't able to make a post without having some variation of "fuck" in it.

Or any degree of intelligence.

[Killer Kitten]

I remember once when my rogue was picking boxes and yakking with a bunch of folks in a public area some idiot took it upon himself to start whispering to her about how awful her name was and how I (the player) should have used my 'obvious wit and intelligence' to pick a better name.

I had two immediate thoughts. One was piss-off that I was having a great time IN CHARACTER with a roomful of people who were also IN CHARACTER and this idiot pulls me OUT OF CHARACTER to complain that something I can no longer do anything about is not IN CHARACTER enough to suit him. Instead of just ignoring me he'd rather fill my ear with his bullshit, completely ruining the fun I was having playing the game.

My second thought was along the lines of 'Just what does this person think I'm going to do?'. I mean Honestly... I was opening Tower boxes from Maahagra (or however you spell it). Some I was doing manually and some I was doing majikally. This means that my character was obviously of reasonably high level. Did he think I was going to fling myself at his feet thanking him for pointing this out, then give him all my higher level gear in gratitude and run off to re-roll a better name? Say something like 'Oh thank you for pointing this out, I'm going to go rename myself. It should only take me another 7 years to get back to this current training, so since at level 0 I won't be able to use any of these weapons or this armor or these lockpicks I want you to have them for putting me on the right path.'?

I mean really, what do people who play name police actually hope to accomplish? I can see giving tips to an obvious newbie, but what is the point of harassing an older character? Just to make them feel bad? To try in some pathetic way to make yourself look good at somebody elses expense?

If a person is highly trained and has a dubious name, the chances are they already know that their name isn't the best one out there. The odds are pretty good they made the character back in the days when you had to roll for hours, sometimes days, to get anything remotely resembling reasonable stats. By the time you got done with that, you were half punch drunk. Then when you went to pick a name, it seemed like everything you tried was rejected. By the time you'd put something in that was accepted, you didn't care what it was. 'Oh thank God they accepted Frostie Snowman!' Then next day you'd look at the name and think 'oh shit' but you'd rather roast in the fires of Hell than go through that rolling process again.

Seven years later having some fool whisper to Frostie Snowman that their name was bad... I think it's a testimony to my patience and sense of humor that I didn't just stick my falchion up his arse and turn him into a popsicle, which would have been a very IC thing for a Frostie to do. <g>

The point of all this rambling? Policing other people in the game is the job of the staff, not other players. It is not up to me as a player to whisper to somebody else that something OOC about their character is unacceptable to me. If it bothers me that much, I should just get the hell away from it. If I can't escape it, then I can report it and let those whose job it is do something about it. If they choose not to, that is their decision as staff and as a player it is up to me to abide by that decision, not to appoint myself the guardian of OOC/IC for the game.

Kimm/Ex-Tilone

[pennywise]

Well, when you get down to it, indoctrination is a bad name, but no where near as offensive and OOC as beaujangles thedancer.

[Killer Kitten]

Originally posted by pennywise
Well, when you get down to it, indoctrination is a bad name, but no where near as offensive and OOC as beaujangles thedancer.

Since I'm sure during the 8 years I played her Beau was reported out the wazoo and she was never sent to ReName Heaven, her name was therefore acceptable to the GM's and not the business of some halfwit who was too puffed up with his own self importance to realize that he was the one being OOC, not Beau.

FYI I got her first name from my cat of the same name. I named all of my characters after my cats. The last name came after over an hour of 'sorry that name is unavailable'. By the time they FINALLY accepted TheDancer I was so relieved to have escaped being booted and losing the stats that I gladly clicked the yes button.

If you really found her name offensive you need to get out more. Borderline OOC (just like Pennywise from the Stephen King story) I'll grant you, but hardly in the offensiveness league of, say, Analprobe.

Kimm/Ex-Tilone, and Ex-Beau

[pennywise]

Pennywise isnt my characters name, so being an OOC name on an OOC board seems to be alright.

And Im not puffed up, Im just saying, its a very OOC name. Yeah, I reported it, along with a ton of others. I just figure with a little creativity, someone can come up with a halfway decent made up name.

And, as for the cat thing, your serious, you named it for your cat? You've never heard of Bill Robinson? Bojangles, the......Dancer? I mean come on. May as well called her Mammy TheMaid, or Jamima theSyrup.

[Killer Kitten]

Originally posted by pennywise
Pennywise isnt my characters name, so being an OOC name on an OOC board seems to be alright.

And Im not puffed up, Im just saying, its a very OOC name. Yeah, I reported it, along with a ton of others. I just figure with a little creativity, someone can come up with a halfway decent made up name.

And, as for the cat thing, your serious, you named it for your cat? You've never heard of Bill Robinson? Bojangles, the......Dancer? I mean come on. May as well called her Mammy TheMaid, or Jamima theSyrup.

Of course I heard of the song, where do you think I got the cats name from? All of my Gemstone characters were named for my cats. I did use the song for Beau's last name, after trying dozens of others and being told they were unavailable. Sorry my lack of creativity is such a source of disappointment to you, but we can't all be creative geniuses. I'd like to think there's room in Gemstone for everybody, even folk like me who are not as gifted in the creativity department as you seem to think we should be.

My bad, I thought you were the character Pennywise ingame also. I never reported Pennywise, but I did take pleasure in knowing where the name came from.

I feel badly for you, that instead of spending your time in game enjoying the game you feel compelled to police the names of your fellow players. I'm glad for my own part that my hold on the fantasy aspect of Gemstone wasn't so tenuous that a name could disturb my game play.

The Jamima reference I got, but the Mammy one escapes me. The character in Gone With the Wind, perhaps? Though I remember Mammy as The Boss, not really The Maid. <g>

Kimm

[Mistomeer]

You know, I made fun of Beaujangles TheDancer for that awful name, but in retrospect, I probably should have rolled up a character and named him TheMan KeepingYouDown and just attacked Beaujangles left and right. Or I could have made Shirley TheTemple and just followed Beaujangles around saying, "Hey Mister, can you teach me how to dance?"

I remember those days of rolling up characters (Damn, I miss the autoroller) and yeah, coming up with names was tough, but come on, Beaujangles TheDancer was probably the most OOC name I've ever seen, a clear violation of policy and a friendly reminder of the rampant stereotpying and exploitation that permeated early cinema.

So you chose a bad name, and people gave you shit for it, big deal. Why shouldn't you expect OOC whispers when you have an OOC name?

[pennywise]

Hey, Im not asking for much, just that I figured a name taken from a film actor is blatently OOC

Oh, and to stay on the subject. Indoctrination sucks.

[Killer Kitten]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
You know, I made fun of Beaujangles TheDancer for that awful name, but in retrospect, I probably should have rolled up a character and named him TheMan KeepingYouDown and just attacked Beaujangles left and right. Or I could have made Shirley TheTemple and just followed Beaujangles around saying, "Hey Mister, can you teach me how to dance?"

I remember those days of rolling up characters (Damn, I miss the autoroller) and yeah, coming up with names was tough, but come on, Beaujangles TheDancer was probably the most OOC name I've ever seen, a clear violation of policy and a friendly reminder of the rampant stereotpying and exploitation that permeated early cinema.

So you chose a bad name, and people gave you shit for it, big deal. Why shouldn't you expect OOC whispers when you have an OOC name?

I liked the name Beaujangles and TheDancer was the first surname accepted after spending literally hours on the computer rolling her up. This was back in the day when I got to GS through AOL at three bucks an hour and getting booted offline was a constant problem. I wanted to get the hell out of the roller and actually keep the character and her stats. Jingles (Beaujangles the cat) was ill at the time and I wanted to name the character I was making after him. Frankly I never liked the last name, but I worked it into her character, adopting as her symbol a silver-haired sword dancer and having that symbol embossed on all her equipment.

As far as rolling up characters for the purpose of following around or repeatedly killing somebody because you hate their name... Geez, dear, get a life. The same with whispering to somebody about their name. As I stated in my first post, what do YOU expect? That the person will rush to re-roll, all the while simpering at you in gratitude for pointing out the obvious?

For all the people who reported Beau, and from these posts I know there were at least two, she was never LCI'd and never even taken into a GM lounge to discuss her name. From that I posit that her name was not in violation. The only violation was the occasional OOC that she was subjected to by the self appointed name police who should have stuck to reporting and not imposed on my game play with their OOC issues.

Kimm

[Mistomeer]

Actually, it is against policy:

"The following guidelines are in place to ensure a high level of consistency among the names of the adventurers within our community. Players consistently creating names that violate the guidelines may be formally warned or face suspension of playing privileges.

- Racist or racist related terms are clearly unacceptable. (Klan, Towelhead)
- Names of well-known historical or religious figures. (Hitler, God, St. Peter, Gandhi)
- Famous Out-of-genre literary figures or well-known literary terms. (Buck Rogers, Chewy Bacca)
- Names taken from movies, cartoons or video games.
- Names of current or past well-known personalities. (Madonna, Goldberg, Cronkite)"

Take your pick from that list, an argument could be made for any of those. Just because names aren't more carefully vetted doesn't mean they're acceptable.

As for rolling up a character to harass someone, I'd do it cause it'd be funny to see Shirley TheTemple asking Beaujangles TheDancer for dancing lessons, and for whispering, why not? You choose an OOC name, but you don't want anyone to ever mention to you that your name is OOC?

Alot of people played on AOL at $3/hour, myself included, but somehow I never managed to create Luke TheJedi or JonathanE TheRollerballKing. Of course, even then, those two characters aren't used to point out examples of racism in early American cinema.

[Edited on 12-4-2004 by Mistomeer]

[DeV]

I just think the name police need to chill out and worry about their own monthly subscription to gemstone. Let the poorly paid GM's either do their job or not. That's what we have a bad names folder and the report verb for.

[Nilandia]

Personally, I don't mind bad names half as much as the people who name their character after something OOC and then RP that they are that character.

Bad names, and I've seen a bunch of doozies, do get on my nerves, but not nearly as much as the people who don't come up with a unique character instead of following something someone else has already established. Best example I can think of right now is Swiper.

Nilandia

[Killer Kitten]

quote]Originally posted by DarkelfVold
I just think the name police need to chill out and worry about their own monthly subscription to gemstone. Let the poorly paid GM's either do their job or not. That's what we have a bad names folder and the report verb for. [/quote]

What he said.

As for Beau, all I can do is stand by what I said before: She was never talked to or LCI'd for her name despite apparently thousands of reports. I can only interpret that to mean that according to the Simu staff, whose job it is to interpret policy, her name was not in violation of policy. Perhaps it was not to everybodys taste, but is there anything on this Earth to everybodys taste? I think a character with a dubious name is far less detrimental to game play than a vigilante player who runs around trying to force their interpretation of policy upon their fellow adventurers.

Had anybody rolled up a character for the purpose of harassing my character or killed my character for an OOC reason like her name my response would have been to utilize the report verb. Then the assist verb. I would have continued to do so until the harassment was stopped. Gemstone was something I did for fun, not to tangle with some self-important loser who was so lacking in a life that he'd spend his money to pretend he was an unpaid staff member in an online video game.

Kimm

[BigBadBonar]

Callinar did the same thing to me with the stupid name tax. I then told him he was merely jealous that he didn't have one up his ass. At that point he proceeded to blind me for the next 5 minutes.:cry:

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Killer Kitten

Stuff....

Kimm

Yeah, yeah, you chose a crappy name, on a subject you seem to know nothing about, one that was completely OOC, and are still whining that you got OOC whispers based on your OOC name. It's just sad that you spend all this time posting, trying to justify a name that's completely OOC, but still don't seem to know anything about the life of Bill Robinson.

As far as name police goes...
Why shouldn't people make fun of dumbass names? Sure, it's the job of the GM's to enforce policy in that regard, but making fun of someone for their dumb name is just as reasonable as making fun of that character for any other aspect of their persona. I think everyone here agrees that attacking for it is taking it too far, but making fun of a name is just as reasonable as making fun of a character's race, gender, or any other aspect of their persona.

[Nieninque]

Yeah but Callinar is an arsehole...you forgot that bit

[Eiderfleur]

Unfortunately I've seen others do the "stupid name tax" thing on other characters, trouble is they complain about blatently OOC names, however..... the mere fact that they have attacked someone who they have never met in their in-game lives and never been introduced to because they can READ your name off a screen isn't OOC? PLEASE!!! Gimme a fucking break!!!

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Eiderfleur
Unfortunately I've seen others do the "stupid name tax" thing on other characters, trouble is they complain about blatently OOC names, however..... the mere fact that they have attacked someone who they have never met in their in-game lives and never been introduced to because they can READ your name off a screen isn't OOC? PLEASE!!! Gimme a fucking break!!!

I don't think it's OOC to not introduce yourself...there's plenty of ways to RP out knowing someone's name. The game gets alot more complicated if you don't know anyone's name unless you've met them, just like it would be more complicated if you had to spend time eating every day, sleeping, bathing, etc. Sure, it's more realisitic, but at certian points, you have to suspend disbelief just for the sake of gameplay, names is one of those things. Of course, you can always petition the GM's to design a system where you don't see people based on name unless you've been introduced, but until that day comes, you can just assume that everyone in the game is a well known adventurer and your character knows them based on reputation.

[Eiderfleur]

There are people who Eiderfleur has seen so many times on the dais or elsewhere but still does NOT refer to them by their name. She will call them by their race or possibly profession if she has heard from someone else on the dais about what profession they might be and she will either refer to them as "Dat leetle sylvan ranger" and point to Snowdrop or just not use their name..... If someone cannot figure out who Eider is talking about, only then will she whisper to the person she is talking to the name of who she is talking about, if that makes sense.

I have never assumed that everyone is a famous adventurer and that their reputation preceeds them.


I am Godzilla, You are Japan, Your reputation far exceeds your abilities Mammyramma!

[Mistomeer]

Good for you, but the game isn't setup like that, so it's not really fair to hold everyone else IG to a standard you set for yourself. I mean, sure you could RP pain, suffering, eating, sleeping, or any other number of things, but I don't think it's fair to jump on someone else because you decided to do something the majority of people don't do. It's just like movement...Is it really all that feasible to make the journey from the Landing to Illistim and still have the energy to hunt without having rested for a few hours? Honestly, is it even possible to make that kind of distance in a day, much less 20 minutes? Sure, you can play the game that way, but I don't think it's fair to expect everyone else to.

[Edited on 12-5-2004 by Mistomeer]

[Eiderfleur]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
Sure, you can play the game that way, but I don't think it's fair to expect everyone else to.



Fine, but don't thrust your Bad RP skills on someone else, fine they have a sucky name and you think they suck at life...... But that really is none of your business. If you don't like it don't have anything to do with them..... Why throw your CS/AS around like a playground bully.... OH NOEZ MY PENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PENIS!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!


(Just to clarify I wasn't directing this at you, just using your quote, never really had anything much to do with Mistomeer in game except he's raised Eider a couple times.)


It is an RPG and as much as people may protest that GS is no longer an RPG I, and some others still consider it as such and like to play it as such.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
Good for you, but the game isn't setup like that, so it's not really fair to hold everyone else IG to a standard you set for yourself. I mean, sure you could RP pain, suffering, eating, sleeping, or any other number of things, but I don't think it's fair to jump on someone else because you decided to do something the majority of people don't do. It's just like movement...Is it really all that feasible to make the journey from the Landing to Illistim and still have the energy to hunt without having rested for a few hours? Honestly, is it even possible to make that kind of distance in a day, much less 20 minutes? Sure, you can play the game that way, but I don't think it's fair to expect everyone else to.

[Edited on 12-5-2004 by Mistomeer]

Its fair to expect people to not be a complete prick

On that count, Callinar fails miserably

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Eiderfleur

Fine, but don't thrust your Bad RP skills on someone else,

Bad RP skills cause I don't ask names? Do you also make sure to eat 3 meals a day, spend a couple days travelling long distance? Suspending disbelief for the sake of gameplay isn't bad RP, some people just have different views on it. From the way the game is setup, names can be known to characters or not, I see that as personal preference rather than Good RP vs Bad RP.


fine they have a sucky name and you think they suck at life...... But that really is none of your business. If you don't like it don't have anything to do with them..... Why throw your CS/AS around like a playground bully.... OH NOEZ MY PENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PENIS!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!



(Just to clarify I wasn't directing this at you, just using your quote, never really had anything much to do with Mistomeer in game except he's raised Eider a couple times.)


It is an RPG and as much as people may protest that GS is no longer an RPG I, and some others still consider it as such and like to play it as such.

I like both aspects of the game, the RPG aspect as well as the power-hunting aspect, but you know, from an RP standpoint, OOC names do quite a bit to detract from that. I just don't see anything wrong with making fun of awful names. Of course, when I saw Bonar, I rubbed him rather than blinding him. You rub Bonar.

The problem isn't so much making fun of bad names, as I see it, it's the fact that the name policy isn't enforced. If the GM's enforced policies they set, this wouldn't even be an issue.

[Eiderfleur]

Originally posted by Mistomeer

Originally posted by Eiderfleur

Fine, but don't thrust your Bad RP skills on someone else,

Bad RP skills cause I don't ask names? Do you also make sure to eat 3 meals a day, spend a couple days travelling long distance? Suspending disbelief for the sake of gameplay isn't bad RP, some people just have different views on it. From the way the game is setup, names can be known to characters or not, I see that as personal preference rather than Good RP vs Bad RP.



Bad RP because You don't talk to someone but instead choose to stun them the second they walk into the room for having a name that you don't like.



fine they have a sucky name and you think they suck at life...... But that really is none of your business. If you don't like it don't have anything to do with them..... Why throw your CS/AS around like a playground bully.... OH NOEZ MY PENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR PENIS!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!



(Just to clarify I wasn't directing this at you, just using your quote, never really had anything much to do with Mistomeer in game except he's raised Eider a couple times.)


It is an RPG and as much as people may protest that GS is no longer an RPG I, and some others still consider it as such and like to play it as such.

I like both aspects of the game, the RPG aspect as well as the power-hunting aspect, but you know, from an RP standpoint, OOC names do quite a bit to detract from that. I just don't see anything wrong with making fun of awful names. Of course, when I saw Bonar, I rubbed him rather than blinding him. You rub Bonar.

The problem isn't so much making fun of bad names, as I see it, it's the fact that the name policy isn't enforced. If the GM's enforced policies they set, this wouldn't even be an issue. [/quote]

Ok You don't like someone's OOC name, REPORT IT don't start causing shit to that person for making a bad decision when they were rolling up the character. I was lucky when I first started playing GS and created my first character because my fiance was sitting next to me and I kept running names by him because I had no clue what to expect from the game as I had never played a game like GS before and my first AND last attempt at playing D&D it took me so long to pick a name that I settled for Jezzabelle simply because I couldn't think of anything and it was my first attempt at playing an RPG that required a semi decent name.

Some people just lack the imagination to pick names or don't have the knowledge to find medieval sounding names from the net. Who knows what their reasoning is but it is not up to you to judge them on it, REPORT and hope the GMs do something about it if you find it so offending.

[Mistomeer]

I wasn't referring to Callinar stunning..I was referring to not introducing yourself. I don't think assuing names is bad RP, I think it's a matter of personal preference, as far as how far you want to take it, and either way is acceptable. We can agree to disagree, i think a name is part of a character's persona, and as such, is subject to the same things a character is.

[Eiderfleur]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
I wasn't referring to Callinar stunning..I was referring to not introducing yourself. I don't think assuing names is bad RP, I think it's a matter of personal preference, as far as how far you want to take it, and either way is acceptable. We can agree to disagree, i think a name is part of a character's persona, and as such, is subject to the same things a character is.

My paladin has only told one person her name since I created her however people still refer to her by name and ask her if she wants healing.

And I don't recall who it was who mentioned her rogue here, who she rarely plays but she never tells them the name that you see on your monitor, if someone asks her name she calls herself Shadow......

Everyone is entitled to RP the way they want to however for Callinar, a capped cleric to impose his RP on someone else simply because they have a name he doesn't like is not exactly RP. It's like those who stun Candor or whatever, instead of having a battle of wits they just choose to stun, blind, sleep, etc them rather than RP with them.

Situation could have been, Ohhh Are you that (insert race) cleric Indoctrination? *laugh* Boy your parents must have hated you to name you that huh..... Indoctrination could reply with, "Yeah hahaha No idea what pipes they had been smokin' when I was born.

And anyway you never know they might have ended up actually liking eachother despite the fact his name sucks.

[DeV]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
I think everyone here agrees that attacking for it is taking it too far That's all I'm saying. Make fun all day and night, I'd never have a problem with that. A battle of wits or dim wits is always a good option but at least attempt at some convo or roleply.

[Nilandia]

Originally posted by Eiderfleur
And I don't recall who it was who mentioned her rogue here, who she rarely plays but she never tells them the name that you see on your monitor, if someone asks her name she calls herself Shadow......
That would be me. Imagine my chagrin when I noticed an Aelotoi rogue running around with the name Shadow. :lol:

Nilandia

Chainsaw Laserman.