Bards . . . explained!!!

[Drinin]

Was out hunting with a rogue friend of mine while I was on my cleric and somehow we got to the topic of bards.

You say, "Everyone hates bards."
s>say I don't understand why.
You say, "I don't understand why."
s>
Guanthur says, "Yes."
s>say We're a fun class to play.
You say, "We're a fun class to play."
s>
Guanthur says, "Look you're finally realising stuff about bards."
s>say I think everyone has this stereotype.
You say, "I think everyone has this stereotype."
s>
You feel more refreshed.
s>say That bards are somehow flaming homosexuals or something.
You say, "That bards are somehow flaming homosexuals or something."
s>
Guanthur says, "Let me explain bards to you."
s>chort
You chortle.
s>say Please do.
You say, "Please do."
s>
You do not feel drained anymore.
s>l
[Hammer Table]
While the tables are spaced far enough apart to ensure some measure of privacy, they stand in the center of the skylit atrium. Like all of the tables in the room, this one is round and spacious, its heavy cast iron base supporting a carved black marble top. Set at an angle into the stone is a black steel plate inset with five white starstones in the shape of a "T."
Also here: Guanthur who is sitting
Obvious exits: out
s>l guan
You see Guanthur Thurenfal the Prowler.
He appears to be a Human.
He appears to be very young and tall. He has blue-grey eyes and fair skin. He has short, dark blonde hair. He has an unshaven face.
He is in good shape.
He is wearing a serpentine amethyst ring, a crystal amulet, a krodera-edged human armband, some shadowy black leather boots, some pitch black gloves, a burlap sack, a voluminous black stalking cloak, a dark leather locksmith's toolkit, a blue black glaesine orb, some matte black banded mail, some crossed black leather back-sheaths, a crystal amulet, and a crystal amulet.
s>
Guanthur says, "People see bards as spandex fluffy frilly leg and arm wearing flamos, that play a guitar, but its not electric, and its not classical, really its a tree stump with strings."
s>
You feel more refreshed.
s>chort
You chortle.
s>
You feel at full magical power again.
s>say That's fucking hilarious.
You say, "That's fucking hilarious."
s>say I would use that as my profile quote, but I would get in trouble.
Guanthur says, "And they sing when they fight, people don't sing, they scream yell, etc, not sing like they had been stabbed in the biggs."
s>
You say, "I would use that as my profile quote, but I would get in trouble."
s>
s>inc 303
You raise your hand while murmuring a soft orison, focusing on the Prayer of Protection spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
A pure white aura sparkles around you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
s>
Guanthur says, "Singing spells is how shall i say lame."

. . . and now we know why barely anyone plays bards.

[Edited on 11-27-2004 by HarmNone]

[Drew]

Well, also they used to be a very poor class, under-supported and under-developed. It's good for current bards though, since so few people play them less people complain that they are overpowered and now you have a class that's easily the most powerful in the game at the moment.

[Chyrain]

no one gets laid more than a lead singer of a band.

[Amberlei]

I think bards are great. They're able to maintain their composure even in times of duress, providing an example of bravery to inspire the rest of their group. Ever been hunting with someone singing Kai's song? They seem to be very versatile also, having the ability to effectively wield weapons or magic at whim.

[Myitkyina]

i love playing my bard too, except for the variety of things that can cause her to lose her songs... like checking in with the monks at Voln or being stunned at the wrong time. I can kinda understand the latter, but it's never made sense to me why she can't sing inside the Voln monastery.

[Soulpieced]

Ixnay on the owerfulpay...

[Drew]

Heh, yes, I mean: Bards, boy they are horrible.

[Warclaidhm]

Bards and sorcerers are the BEST professions most strongest in the game.

I don't see why people here think bards are bad..

Here's how I'd rate the professions:

Total professions: Warrior, Rogue, Cleric, Empath, Paladin, Ranger, Bard, Sorcerer, Wizard.

Rating (1=best. 10 = worst.)

Rating for hunting:
Warrior = 1
Rogue = 2
Paladin = 3
Ranger = 4
Bard = 5
Cleric = 6
Sorcerer = 7
wizard = 8
empath = 9


Best for PvP or CvC:
Sorcerer = 1 (Due to implosion)
Wizard = 2 (Due to meteor swarm and other manuever spells)
Ranger = 3 (Natures fury, spike thorn, etc)
Bard = 4 (Due to weapon creation spells and armor creation spells)
Cleric = 5 (Dont clerics have insta-kill spells like smite/bane on a certain end roll?)
Warrior = 6 (manuevers)
Paladin = 7 (tough semi)
rogue = 8 (ambush, cutthroat, garrote, etc. Rogues should be more closer to the top, but oh well)
empath = 9. (Basically not meant for hunting unless specially trained.)

Bards can* create their own weapons, their own armor, have several AS and DS boosting spells, and are also great hunters. They also have a new RT reducing spell.

Not to mention they can loresing..


-* Edited to make cant "can".

[Edited on 11-27-2004 by Warclaidhm]

[Axhinde]

Why did you state you think Empath's aren't meant for hunting then list it under CvC or PvP?? Hunting has nothing to do with those? So, I'm now convinced you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[Chadj]

The trick to songspells and stuns: Don't get stunned. It's rather simple. I don't think I've EVER been stunned while hunting and lost my songspells.

[Methais]

<<Guanthur says, "People see bards as spandex fluffy frilly leg and arm wearing flamos, that play a guitar, but its not electric, and its not classical, really its a tree stump with strings.">>

Holy shit it's true!

[Drew]

In your ratings Warclaidhm, for bards you don't even mention song of noise for CvC which basically equates to death for most pures.



EDIT: Also, I can tell you don't play pures that much. There is a good reason that when you look at the fame list sorcs make up 40% of the top 200. They are easier to hunt with (also easier to script, but that has to do with being easy to hunt), and do very well.


A really spectacular sorcerer could probably go from level 1 to 50 without having to die once, but even after 50 trains pure deaths are mostly manuever based from the long stuns they get, but, you know, when they don't actually die they tend to come back from hunts unscathed. You can't say that for warriors.

Anyway, I think your ratings are a bit off, but I actually wanted to start a thread similar to this, asking people to order professions from "most powerful" to "least powerful" so it's a neat idea.

[Edited on 11-27-2004 by Drew]

[Soulpieced]

There really is no clear cut "strongest" or "best" profession anymore since GSIV was released. Too many different qualities for each. You'd also be hard pressed to find another profession post-100 that can keep up with me.

[Shalla]

all like leveled characters in battlefield.. I think the one who would win and the most powerful is the one who can type fast, and fastest internet connection.. oh not to mention premium with type ahead lines.

[Eiderfleur]

Originally posted by Warclaidhm
Bards and sorcerers are the BEST professions most strongest in the game.

I don't see why people here think bards are bad..

Here's how I'd rate the professions:

Total professions: Warrior, Rogue, Cleric, Empath, Paladin, Ranger, Bard, Sorcerer, Wizard.

Rating (1=best. 10 = worst.)

Rating for hunting:
Warrior = 1
Rogue = 2
Paladin = 3
Ranger = 4
Bard = 5
Cleric = 6
Sorcerer = 7
wizard = 8
empath = 9


Best for PvP or CvC:
Sorcerer = 1 (Due to implosion)
Wizard = 2 (Due to meteor swarm and other manuever spells)
Ranger = 3 (Natures fury, spike thorn, etc)
Bard = 4 (Due to weapon creation spells and armor creation spells)
Cleric = 5 (Dont clerics have insta-kill spells like smite/bane on a certain end roll?)
Warrior = 6 (manuevers)
Paladin = 7 (tough semi)
rogue = 8 (ambush, cutthroat, garrote, etc. Rogues should be more closer to the top, but oh well)
empath = 9. (Basically not meant for hunting unless specially trained.)



You mention warriors as number 1 by your rating system...... Is that before, or after you have begged and whined for a full wizard spellup?

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Eiderfleur

You mention warriors as number 1 by your rating system...... Is that before, or after you have begged and whined for a full wizard spellup?

:ohshit: :rofl:

[Soulpieced]

Also, why the hell are paladins on that list. They haven't even existed for a week and they can hunt better than half the professions in game? Come on.

[Eiderfleur]

Considering he plays a crap warrior who is always begging for spells then has the nerve to say wizards and empaths suck?!?!?!

C'mon! I've seen people getting pwned by empaths and plenty of empaths would easily be able to whoop WarCanIhaveAFullMageSpelluphm.

[Amaron]

Well maybe we can all give our opinions.. That is just warcladhm's opinion... whats all yours on who hunts best and all...

I stand by my bard and my ambushing rogue any day. I can up hunt and the songs for bard and cmans for rogue are the best...


I just wish cman groinkick would be available for my bardess... she would have a use for it....

J