Confused with training, argh!

[itharr]

So here's my problem, I'm currently a Level 5 Warrior. Here's my info/training:

exp
Level: 5 Deeds: 0
Experience: 30839 Death's Sting: None
Exp. until next: 9161 Recent Deaths: 0
Mental TPs: 116 Fame: 5979
Physical TPs: 50 Mana: 4/4 max

Your mind is numbed.
>skill
Zenthis (at level 5), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 50 10
Combat Maneuvers...................| 50 10
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 50 10
Ambush.............................| 25 5
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 50 10
Dodging............................| 50 10
Survival...........................| 10 2
Perception.........................| 25 5
Climbing...........................| 15 3
Swimming...........................| 10 2
First Aid..........................| 15 3
Training Points: 50 Phy 116 Mnt
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

As you can see, I'm only at 10 ranks in Armor (and other skills, but we'll talk about armor for now). Now as I understand it, training 2x in Armor to level 5 should be 12 ranks not 10 ranks, correct? Well as soon as I leveled to 5, I went to train and here are my costs:


Ranks P/M (Max) Skill Name Ranks P/M (Max) Skill Name
Armor Skills Magic Skills
1) 10 4/0 (21) Armor Use 26) 0 0/7 (7) Arcane Symbols
2) 0 2/0 (21) Shield Use 27) 0 0/8 (7) Magic Item Use
Weapon Skills 28) 0 0/10 (7) Harness Power
3) 0 2/1 (14) Edged Weapons 29) 0 5/25 (7) Spell Aiming
4) 0 2/1 (14) Blunt Weapons 30) 0 0/10 (7) Mana Control: Elemental
5) 10 6/2 (14) Two-Handed Weapons 31) 0 0/10 (7) Mana Control: Spiritual
6) 0 2/1 (14) Ranged Weapons 32) 0 0/15 (7) Mana Control: Mental
7) 0 2/1 (14) Thrown Weapons Spell Research (7)
8) 0 3/1 (14) Pole Arm Weapons 33) 0 0/120 Minor Elemental
9) 0 2/1 (14) Brawling 34) 0 0/120 Minor Spiritual
Combat Skills
10) 0 2/2 (14) Two Weapon Combat Elemental Lore (7)
11) 10 8/6 (14) Combat Maneuvers 36) 0 0/15 Air
12) 5 4/3 (14) Multi-Opponent Combat 37) 0 0/15 Earth
13) 5 3/4 (14) Ambush 38) 0 0/15 Fire
14) 10 4/0 (21) Physical Training 39) 0 0/15 Water
15) 10 8/4 (21) Dodging Spiritual Lore (7)
40) 0 0/15 Blessings
General Skills 41) 0 0/15 Religion
16) 3 3/0 (14) Climbing 42) 0 0/15 Summoning
17) 2 2/0 (14) Swimming Sorcerous Lore (7)
18) 0 2/4 (14) Disarming Traps 43) 0 0/30 Demonology
19) 0 2/3 (14) Picking Locks 44) 0 0/30 Necromancy
20) 0 3/2 (14) Stalking & Hiding Mental Lore (7)
21) 5 0/3 (14) Perception 45) 0 0/40 Divination
22) 3 1/2 (14) First Aid 46) 0 0/40 Manipulation
23) 0 0/4 (14) Trading 47) 0 0/40 Telepathy
24) 0 2/3 (7) Picking Pockets 48) 0 0/40 Transference
25) 2 1/3 (14) Survival 49) 0 0/40 Transformation

My question is: Why is my Armor cost doubled? Same for Dodging, PT, etc... I thought Armor cost was base the first training, then doubled if you 2x it. But when I leveled to 5, it seemed to start off at double-cost?

I thought if I 2x'd armor, it would cost 6 PTP every time (2/0 first train, 4/0 second train) - is that not the case?

Thanks for your help!
-Itharr

[Gelston]

You're still over 1x in it, it costs the double amount when you are over 1x in it.

So, 0-6 ranks would be the 1x cost, 7-12 ranks would be the 2x cost, 13+ is the 3x cost for your level.

[Jeril]

Right and wrong at the same time. It is ranks 0-7 where he would be paying the single cost then ranks 8-14 is double and 15-21 where he'd pay triple. You get ranks for level 0 as well as the level you are working towards so effectively level +2 for your limits in 1x, 2x, and 3x until you actually cap and there is no change in max ranks from level 99 to 100. Kind of odd but that is how the system is set up.

You also get points back for things above 1x when you level. At level 5 max ranks in a weapon skill would be 14 ranks. You are paying the single cost for ranks up to 7 and double for ranks 8 up to 14. When you level this changes slightly to where you are paying the single cost for ranks up to 8 and double up to max there after. You get some tps back for that 8th rank changing from double cost to single cost.

[itharr]

Right and wrong at the same time. It is ranks 0-7 where he would be paying the single cost then ranks 8-14 is double and 15-21 where he'd pay triple. You get ranks for level 0 as well as the level you are working towards so effectively level +2 for your limits in 1x, 2x, and 3x until you actually cap and there is no change in max ranks from level 99 to 100. Kind of odd but that is how the system is set up.

You also get points back for things above 1x when you level. At level 5 max ranks in a weapon skill would be 14 ranks. You are paying the single cost for ranks up to 7 and double for ranks 8 up to 14. When you level this changes slightly to where you are paying the single cost for ranks up to 8 and double up to max there after. You get some tps back for that 8th rank changing from double cost to single cost.

I see, thank you everyone!