The zombies keep winning - Training help

[Iqxero]

I'm having trouble with my 23 train cleric. He was(is) a swinging cleric, but my AS and DS are not high enough to survive in zombies. Either I just can't cut it, or I'm doing something wrong. I have looked over it a hundred times, and read through some of the other posts in this folder, but I can't figure out what my problem is. His current configuration is as follows:

Normal(Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 79 (24) ... 79 (24)
Constitution (CON): 61 (20) ... 61 (20)
Dexterity (DEX): 53 (1) ... 53 (1)
Agility (AGI): 54 (-3) ... 54 (-3)
Discipline (DIS): 71 (20) ... 71 (20)
Aura (AUR): 93 (11) ... 93 (11)
Logic (LOG): 71 (15) ... 71 (15)
Intuition (INT): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 59 (-6) ... 59 (-6)

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 58 12
Shield Use.........................| 105 25
Combat Maneuvers...................| 105 25
Blunt Weapons......................| 105 25
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Harness Power......................| 105 25
Spirit Mana Control................| 105 25
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 30 6
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 58 12
Climbing...........................| 30 6
Swimming...........................| 30 6

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 22

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 11

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 22

I am converted, I am not hunting encumbered, and I am only using 4x double leathers. I am using a 4.5x sancted blunt, and a 5x tower shield.

If I can't figure out, or nobody knows, what I seem to be doing wrong, I am probably going to convert him to a runestaff using cleric. His stats would stay the same but his skills would switch to:

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Physical Fitness...................| 105 25
Harness Power......................| 150 50
Spirit Mana Control................| 105 25
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 30 6
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 62 13
Climbing...........................| 62 13
Swimming...........................| 58 13
First Aid..........................| 105 25
Arcane Symbols.....................| 150 50
Magic Item Use.....................| 150 50

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 24

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 12

Spell Lists
Cleric.............................| 24

Any help at all would be appreciated, either here or via U2U. Heck, thanks even for reading it.

[Parkbandit]

I haven't hunted zombies in a few years.. but I never considered them easy at level 23 for a cleric without extra spell help. How are you hunting? Blunt or 302? Zombies should be a cake walk if you are using bane/smite

I have noticed your wisdom is already maxed and your physical stats like dex, agil and str are painfully low which will account for your less than spectacular AS and DS.

[Iqxero]

I didn't think they would (or should be) a cake walk. But they are same level. I should have "some" chance of hitting them, and I don't seem to be able to.

I am swinging at them, but having to fall back on 302 to kill them. And my 302ing isn't exactly my most spectacular feature either.

I had thought about my stats, but I haven't figured out how to go about fixing them. I guess I hadn't looked at them enough to realize how pathetic they are, I just went to trying to figure out what skills I screwed up.

I think maybe I'm kinda stuck trying to be a swinger, with more magically inclined states. Or just trying to be a hunter, with bad stats. One or the other.

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Iqxero
Agility (AGI): 54 (-3) ... 54 (-3)


This is probably one of your biggest problems.

Other than that, since you swing, you can't use 102 which is a major hit to your DS that your shield can't make up for at such a young age. That's all I can think of.

[Stunseed]

Voln or CoL?

Also, if you're a swinging Cleric, utilize your mana positively by using 301. Expensive as hell, makes Zombies blunt bait.

[Alarke]

I was a swinging cleric until about 43.. granted that was all in GS3, but raise your agility a bit, use 301, and if you cant hit with that, just stance dance, zombies are about as slow as a critter can get.