Ohio recount a go!

[Tsa`ah]

According to the people raising the funds, the Green party has been successful and the Ohio recount will commence ASAP.

This was apparently a joint venture between the Green and Libertarian parties.

They were able to raise over 100 grand in under 4 days.

http://www.votecobb.org/

[TheRoseLady]

I'm happy about this for one reason:

I hope that Ken Blackwell (Sec of State) gets lots of negative press, or that he tries to do obstructionary type things and the media reports it - causing himl either be removed (not likely) or seriously damaging his chance of being elected as our Governor in 2006.

:rant:

[Parkbandit]

I will be glad once the recount is over and all the cries of "He stole another election!!" can once again be disproven.

Well, to most people anyway. We will always have the freaks ala 2000 election recount.

[Back]

I am not supporting the theory, BUT, do you think that stealing an election is impossible or that the Republicans, or Democrats, wouldn’t if they thought they could get away with it?

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Backlash
I am not supporting the theory, BUT, do you think that stealing an election is impossible or that the Republicans, or Democrats, wouldn’t if they thought they could get away with it?

I don't think it's possible only because it would take far too many people to pull it off. I think if it was possible, many politicians would try.

[Back]

Rumors from the District

I overheard some guy in the lobby of my building talking on his cell with someone saying that there are reports of double ballot counts in Ohio.

District sighting of the week

Senator John McCain walked into the building I work in yesterday.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Backlash
Rumors from the District

I overheard some guy in the lobby of my building talking on his cell with someone saying that there are reports of double ballot counts in Ohio.


Well, it looks like Kerry lost by an even larger margin then. :lol:

[4a6c1]

umm....wow

I thought they said that even with all Ohio votes AGAINST Bush the Dems still would have needed another of state.

:?:

R, honestly wondering

[Chelle]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
I will be glad once the recount is over and all the cries of "He stole another election!!" can once again be disproven.

Well, to most people anyway. We will always have the freaks ala 2000 election recount.

Ditto that.

I am glad for the recount so it all can finally be put behind us. Eeesh.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
I thought they said that even with all Ohio votes AGAINST Bush the Dems still would have needed another of state.


No, Ohio was the deciding factor.

Kerry 252
Bush 266

Ohio +20

So it would have put either of them over 270.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Chelle
I am glad for the recount so it all can finally be put behind us. Eeesh.

Agreed.

We should also recount Florida from 2000.

Just to be consistant.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Wezas

Originally posted by Chelle
I am glad for the recount so it all can finally be put behind us. Eeesh.

Agreed.

We should also recount Florida from 2000.

Just to be consistant.

Already happened. Bush was still the winner.

[SpunGirl]

I'd like to see a recount that no one can argue with, that'd be nice. Do you think for the next election, we could get everyone in a giant stadium and say, "ok, raise your hand for x, alright, that's 26,400,824 votes, now, raise your hand for y .... no voting twice... okay, that's 45,109,100 votes, y is the winner."

-K

[4a6c1]

Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

Imagine the dark ages in the 21st century.

:D

[SpunGirl]

Either that or Bush will also demand a recount in the remaining 49 states. Just to make super-dooper sure.

-K

[DeV]

Maybe even World War III... :medieval:

[Nakiro]

If Kerry were to win the recount it would be good in the sense that the truely appointed offical would take office, but disasterious in the sense that our entire nation would lose an immense amount of confidence in our electoral system.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Nakiro
If Kerry were to win the recount it would be good in the sense that the truely appointed offical would take office, but disasterious in the sense that our entire nation would lose an immense amount of confidence in our electoral system.

Agreed.

Maybe they could share.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Parkbandit]

You would also hear a much more vocal voice for election reform in this country. If Kerry wasn't such a horrible candidate.. I'd almost hope that it was, JUST to get the election reform process going.

Unfortunately, the powers in the 2 parties want to keep it JUST the way it is, because it helps them both.

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by Wezas

Originally posted by Nakiro
If Kerry were to win the recount it would be good in the sense that the truely appointed offical would take office, but disasterious in the sense that our entire nation would lose an immense amount of confidence in our electoral system.

Agreed.

Maybe they could share.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There can be only one solution....






















THUNDERDOME!

[Fallen]

Well said, Nakiro. Well said indeed.

[Farquar]

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

The Reds will probably initiate recounts in the closer blue states (Wisconsin/Mich/NH). Barring any changes, a legal battle will ensue and will work its way up to the High Court. The Court, controlled by the Republicans, will promptly ignore the lack of legal precedent, make up a new rule, and then hand the presidency back to the reds, a la 2000. Same result.

[Keller]

Originally posted by Farquar

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

The Reds will probably initiate recounts in the closer blue states (Wisconsin/Mich/NH). Barring any changes, a legal battle will ensue and will work its way up to the High Court. The Court, controlled by the Republicans, will promptly ignore the lack of legal precedent, make up a new rule, and then hand the presidency back to the reds, a la 2000. Same result.


quit thinking of the world as red and blue. can't we all come together and just be pink? :saint:

[Delaroz]

Umm, nothing would happen if Kerry miraculously found the necessary votes in Ohio. He conceded. Bush would still be you incumbent "president elect" and Kerry would still be gearing up to campaign for his senate seat in 2006. Of course, there would be legal wrangling and accusations and such, but look at which parties have instigated the recount. I know everyone loves a good conspiracy theory but this is simply a test, as it were, by the less powerful parties.

As for either party cheating if they thought they could get away with it, well, of course they would. Look at Nixon and Watergate? Nixon had that election wrapped up and had no need to cheat, but in his paranoia, took the chance. Of course, it cost the Republican party big time in 1976, but thems the breaks.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Farquar

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

The Reds will probably initiate recounts in the closer blue states (Wisconsin/Mich/NH). Barring any changes, a legal battle will ensue and will work its way up to the High Court. The Court, controlled by the Republicans, will promptly ignore the lack of legal precedent, make up a new rule, and then hand the presidency back to the reds, a la 2000. Same result.

:lol::lol:

I don't even know where to begin with the ignorance displayed here.

[Trinitis]

PB! Get out of this damn political thread and make a new, funny thread about you and your park, damnit.

:birdshit:

[Parkbandit]

I haven't been playing alot.. mostly due to work.. but now with HL2 out, I won't be around much until I get through that game.

Recently, I've been pretty bored in GS4... Maybe a new paladin character will spice things up...

[CrystalTears]

No kidding, PB. That was just so wrong. :lol2:

Isn't Farquar the idjit king in Shrek? The little guy with the big ego? Would make a lot of sense. We named our boss that since he's short and thinks way too much of himself, has a story and opinion for everything.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
No kidding, PB. That was just so wrong. :lol2:

Isn't Farquar the idjit king in Shrek? The little guy with the big ego? Would make a lot of sense. We named our boss that since he's short and thinks way too much of himself, has a story and opinion for everything.

It's Farquaad.

[Farquar]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Farquar

Originally posted by JihnasSpirit
Sooo, just wondering. Whats going to happen if it comes up that Kerry won?

The Reds will probably initiate recounts in the closer blue states (Wisconsin/Mich/NH). Barring any changes, a legal battle will ensue and will work its way up to the High Court. The Court, controlled by the Republicans, will promptly ignore the lack of legal precedent, make up a new rule, and then hand the presidency back to the reds, a la 2000. Same result.

:lol::lol:

I don't even know where to begin with the ignorance displayed here.

Did you read the opinion in Bush v. Gore? Nope.

Did you go over the opinion in your Constitutional Law class?
Nope.

Have you gone or did you go to law school?
Nope.

Stay in middle management where you belong.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Keller
quit thinking of the world as red and blue. can't we all come together and just be pink? :saint:

red and blue would make purple.

pink would be the result of red and white.

And on that subject - Red, White, and Blue would combine to make an uber-gay pink-purple.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Farquar

Did you read the opinion in Bush v. Gore? Nope.

Did you go over the opinion in your Constitutional Law class?
Nope.

Have you gone or did you go to law school?
Nope.

Stay in middle management where you belong.

If "Stay in middle management where you belong" is the best retort you can muster.. run now before I make you cry.

[Alarke]

I love the idjits that are in high school constitution class and pull out the.. "My teacher said this!!!!" and actually deep down inside themselves believe they have a valid arguement.

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Delaroz
Umm, nothing would happen if Kerry miraculously found the necessary votes in Ohio. He conceded.

I'm not so sure about that. You're saying that even if the count showed that Kerry won Ohio (which is highly unlikely), their memebers in the Electoral College would vote for Bush?

Additionally, if that was the case, they wouldn't even bother with a recount, would they?

Jorddyn, just sayin'

[Keller]

Originally posted by Wezas

Originally posted by Keller
quit thinking of the world as red and blue. can't we all come together and just be pink? :saint:

red and blue would make purple.

pink would be the result of red and white.

And on that subject - Red, White, and Blue would combine to make an uber-gay pink-purple.

It was a communism joke, not a color combination joke. Do you have to ruin EVERYTHING?!?!

[xtc]

Originally posted by Farquar

Did you read the opinion in Bush v. Gore? Nope.

Did you go over the opinion in your Constitutional Law class?
Nope.

Have you gone or did you go to law school?
Nope.

Stay in middle management where you belong.

High court? and which "high court" do the Republicans control, the Supreme Court of USA?, certainly not, or Roe vs Wade would have been over turned.

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by xtc
High court? and which "high court" do the Republicans control, the Supreme Court of USA?, certainly not, or Roe vs Wade would have been over turned.

There's a difference between "Republican" and "UltraConservative prolifer."

Jorddyn, YAY! Can we have an abortion debate, too?

[Farquar]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
If "Stay in middle management where you belong" is the best retort you can muster.. run now before I make you cry.

What can you possibly say that would make me cry? That your minivan can go faster than mine? That your above ground pool is bigger than mine? That the couch on your front lawn has less bugs in it than mine? Gimme a break.

I think it's a pretty good retort myself. It encompasses not only the economic, but the social, geographical, and the political facets of your existence. It's so subtly demeaning that the true magic of the quote is that someone in your "position" may not even take it as an insult.

Oh - Alarke:
It wasn't high school constitution(sic). It was "constitutional" law at one of this nations greatest law schools. And when your prof was an amicus brief writer in Bush v. Gore, I tend to take his views seriosuly.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Delaroz
Umm, nothing would happen if Kerry miraculously found the necessary votes in Ohio. He conceded. Bush would still be you incumbent "president elect" and Kerry would still be gearing up to campaign for his senate seat in 2006.

Incorrect.

Conceding the election is no more than rolling up the tents and going home. The game hasn't been called yet since the electoral votes are still in question.

If Kerry is found the winner of OH, then Kerry wins the election. It's as simple as that until the legal battles start.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Keller
It was a communism joke, not a color combination joke. Do you have to ruin EVERYTHING?!?!

Oh, if it would have been funny I wouldn't have commented.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Farquar

What can you possibly say that would make me cry? That your minivan can go faster than mine? That your above ground pool is bigger than mine? That the couch on your front lawn has less bugs in it than mine? Gimme a break.

I think it's a pretty good retort myself. It encompasses not only the economic, but the social, geographical, and the political facets of your existence. It's so subtly demeaning that the true magic of the quote is that someone in your "position" may not even take it as an insult.


You are correct.. I certainly didn't take it as an insult. Like I told you before when you were trying to look all high and mighty and attempting to make yourself look like a rich elitist snob.. I'm willing to bet I make more in a year than you do... before stock options, 401K contributions and EDCP. DiIfference is, I don't act like a self-righteous pompus ass that is better than everyone else. (Well most of the time)

And I wouldn't be caught dead with an above ground pool. Fucking Hayseed.

[Wezas]

I somehow feel responsible for the uneasy feeling I get when I see people who don't know PB well making fun of the fact that his wife drives a minivan.

Might have to take it out of my sig. :sniffle:

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Wezas
I somehow feel responsible for the uneasy feeling I get when I see people who don't know PB well making fun of the fact that his wife drives a minivan.


Or, you could just realize that anyone who judges someone else on what he or she drives is not worth a second thought, and keep it because it is amusing :)

Jorddyn, and her smokin' 97 Sunfire

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Jorddyn
Or, you could just realize that anyone who judges someone else on what he or she drives is not worth a second thought, and keep it because it is amusing :)


True, there is much more to make fun of PB about.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Wezas
I somehow feel responsible for the uneasy feeling I get when I see people who don't know PB well making fun of the fact that his wife drives a minivan.

Might have to take it out of my sig. :sniffle:

LOL.. not at all. It's funny shit. Hell, I even make fun of it.

[Ravenstorm]

Originally posted by Wezas
True, there is much more to make fun of PB about.

LIke flip-fl... mandals.

Raven

[Jorddyn]

Originally posted by Wezas

Originally posted by Jorddyn
Or, you could just realize that anyone who judges someone else on what he or she drives is not worth a second thought, and keep it because it is amusing :)


True, there is much more to make fun of PB about.

:lol:

Jorddyn

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Ravenstorm

Originally posted by Wezas
True, there is much more to make fun of PB about.

LIke flip-fl... mandals.

Raven

:no:

They are not flip-flops dammit! When I walk, there is no "Flip" "Flop" "Flip" "Flop" sound.

They are my stylish mandles. Made for real mans like me.

[Wezas]

http://benjaminm.net/content/binary/SocksAndSandalsJustSayNo.jpg

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Wezas
No, Ohio was the deciding factor.Except for Wisconsin. Like Farquar said. Only makes sense.

Farquar is one of a number of objects that astronomers with too much time on their hands tried to call the 10th planet.

[Czeska]

I haven't been able to find this announcement on a news site anywhere.. Link, anyone?

[Tsa`ah]

I linked it in the first post.

[Czeska]

Ah yes, how soon they (I) forget. And I see now why it's not on a news site.. they're filing tomorrow.

I'm sure I'll hear all about it on the ride in to work.

[TheRoseLady]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
You would also hear a much more vocal voice for election reform in this country. If Kerry wasn't such a horrible candidate.. I'd almost hope that it was, JUST to get the election reform process going.

Unfortunately, the powers in the 2 parties want to keep it JUST the way it is, because it helps them both.

It concerns me greatly that I am agreeing with you again in a political thread. :lol:

[Tsa`ah]

Yet what does it say about the incumbent when independent parties fund a recount?

Tells me that Kerry, despite being a horrible candidate, is preferred over the incumbent.

Both candidates sucked, and sucked hard.

[Shalla]

I don't understand why on earth this happened again. I mean, don't you think that America would've learned their lesson from last election, and prevented this from happening again? :lolwave:

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Lady Shalla
I don't understand why on earth this happened again. I mean, don't you think that America would've learned their lesson from last election, and prevented this from happening again? :lolwave:

500 < 136,000

It didn't happen again. This is like the coach at his post game press conference, complaining about the refs when his team loses 50-3.

Looks like Kerry should have spent some of that nice 15 million dollar nest egg he's still sitting on.

:lol:

[Keller]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Lady Shalla
I don't understand why on earth this happened again. I mean, don't you think that America would've learned their lesson from last election, and prevented this from happening again? :lolwave:

500 < 136,000

It didn't happen again. This is like the coach at his post game press conference, complaining about the refs when his team loses 50-3.

Looks like Kerry should have spent some of that nice 15 million dollar nest egg he's still sitting on.

:lol:

It would be like losing 50-35 and blaming it on the refs the night after you lost it 50-49 and blamed it on the refs. Last night the refs fucked up. So they'll bitch again and hope someone listens this time.

Either way you gotta hope the league does something about the refs. Both sides want fair officials.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Keller

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Lady Shalla
I don't understand why on earth this happened again. I mean, don't you think that America would've learned their lesson from last election, and prevented this from happening again? :lolwave:

500 < 136,000

It didn't happen again. This is like the coach at his post game press conference, complaining about the refs when his team loses 50-3.

Looks like Kerry should have spent some of that nice 15 million dollar nest egg he's still sitting on.

:lol:

It would be like losing 50-35 and blaming it on the refs the night after you lost it 50-49 and blamed it on the refs. Last night the refs fucked up. So they'll bitch again and hope someone listens this time.

Either way you gotta hope the league does something about the refs. Both sides want fair officials.

Please show me how the refs fucked up last night. Let's not include election reform because many of us want that. But I have seen no evidence that the election was fucked up for one team or the other in 2004.

It wasn't a landslide, but for an election that was supposed to be razor close.. it simply wasn't.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
But I have seen no evidence that the election was fucked up for one team or the other in 2004.

It wasn't a landslide, but for an election that was supposed to be razor close.. it simply wasn't.

It doesn't look good if you look.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1118-22.htm