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Parkbandit
11-17-2004, 04:08 PM
By Desmond Butler
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Wednesday, November 17, 2004
NEW YORK -- Saddam Hussein diverted money from the U.N. oil-for-food program to pay millions of dollars to families of Palestinian suicide bombers who carried out attacks on Israel, say congressional investigators who uncovered evidence of the money trail.
The former Iraqi president tapped secret bank accounts in Jordan -- where he collected bribes from foreign companies and individuals doing illicit business under the humanitarian program -- to reward the families up to $25,000 each, investigators told The Associated Press.
Tsunami
11-17-2004, 04:13 PM
I can't say I'm terribly surprised.
Keller
11-17-2004, 04:28 PM
What is the world coming to. That a travesty, a real moral-breaker. Who knows, next they'll tell us something like, the United States has been funding the Israeli terror-program. I can only imagine. :rolleyes:
Hulkein
11-17-2004, 05:06 PM
Anti-semite.
Keller
11-17-2004, 05:22 PM
you forgot fuckstain -- so far Tsa'ah has pwnd you in the insulting Keller category.
longshot
11-17-2004, 05:43 PM
Keller, you're a shitbag.
The West Bank/Gaza strip bullshit has nothing to do with "Palestinian" soveirgnty. It's part of a pan-arab movement to eliminate jews. It's not hard to understand.
For not liking Jewish people, you've chosen a rather poor profession...
Keller
11-17-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by longshot
Keller, you're a shitbag.
The West Bank/Gaza strip bullshit has nothing to do with "Palestinian" soveirgnty. It's part of a pan-arab movement to eliminate jews. It's not hard to understand.
For not liking Jewish people, you've chosen a rather poor profession...
I thought I was a cocknozzle?
Also, please show some sort of evidence of said pan-arab movement to eliminate jews. Maybe pan-arab movement to eliminate near-asian jewry.
And as to not liking jewish people ... I grew up in Little Israel in Indianapolis. In seventh grade I went to a bar/bat mitzvah nearly every saturday night and I've done the chicken dance too often to count. So until you have a better grasp of who I am -- maybe you could refrain from make generalizations.
Disagreeing with anything that Israel does is a fast way to get labeled an anti-semite.
- Arkans
Latrinsorm
11-17-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Arkans
Disagreeing with anything that Israel does is a fast way to get labeled an anti-semite.In which case, one would obviously be....
How does disagreeing with Israeli policy make you hate Jews?
- Arkans
Keller
11-17-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Arkans
How does disagreeing with Israeli policy make you hate Jews?
- Arkans
SHUT UP YOU MAKE MY BRAIN HURT
Latrinsorm
11-17-2004, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Arkans
How does disagreeing with Israeli policy make you hate Jews?The answer was "FUCKING PWNED!!11!!", not "THE SOCRATIC METHOD!!!". But I'll give you half credit.
It is a interesting story, the one I read said the intel came from Israel which I must say made me skeptical. Let's not forget that the mossad's motto is "By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Make War" or there about.
Also the US lacks credibility in the intel game after the WMD fiasco. I am waiting to see what the UN inquiry discovers. I wouldn't put it pass Saddam but I would like to see what a UN investigation turns up.
I agree with Keller's first post a 100%.
I have never understood how opposing Israel on an issue automatically makes one an anti-semite. Of course that term is used incorrectly as semites include some muslims and arabs.
Wasn't Saddam paying families of suicide bombers way before this post, way before that article, way before our prez said he was? Way before.. cause I remember this being brought up in a conversation like at least 3 years ago.
The fact that he paid off the families of Palastinian suicide bombers has been known for quite some time. The level of corruption within the UN Oil for Food program, however, is just now coming to light.
Tsa`ah
11-18-2004, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
Wasn't Saddam paying families of suicide bombers way before this post, way before that article, way before our prez said he was? Way before.. cause I remember this being brought up in a conversation like at least 3 years ago.
You would be absolutely correct.
Sadam made it globally known that he would pay the surviving families of suicide bombers for successful attacks against American interests well before 9-11.
Tsa`ah
11-18-2004, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by xtc
It is a interesting story, the one I read said the intel came from Israel which I must say made me skeptical. Let's not forget that the mossad's motto is "By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Make War" or there about.
Also the US lacks credibility in the intel game after the WMD fiasco. I am waiting to see what the UN inquiry discovers. I wouldn't put it pass Saddam but I would like to see what a UN investigation turns up.
I agree with Keller's first post a 100%.
I have never understood how opposing Israel on an issue automatically makes one an anti-semite. Of course that term is used incorrectly as semites include some muslims and arabs.
You read/skim far too much Ostrovsky and conspiracy pages to be anything close to credible.
"Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety"
Originally posted by Tsa`ah
You read/skim far too much Ostrovsky and conspiracy pages to be anything close to credible.
"Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety"
Who is more credible than a former mossad agent. Deception is their motto. The mossad has been caught several times in less than honest circsumstances. Most of their exploits regularly make into Canadian news as the mossad likes to use fake Canadian passports to travel on.
http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=4037
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1091623839571_45?hub=Canada
Anyway I am simply waiting to see what the UN investigation turns up. As I stated before I wouldn't put it pass Saddam.
Tsa`ah
11-18-2004, 02:02 PM
A former Mossad agent of how many years? He was an officer for 2 years and in training for a few years prior, yet he was privy to super-duper-secret-information.
I'm sorry, but taking this guy's reports as factual and credible shows a vast helping of gullibility.
Why would he do it? Money. You just show how willing you are to subscribe to his conspiracy theories and line his pockets. That much is evident with your belief that you really know what the Mossad motto is.
Originally posted by Tsa`ah
A former Mossad agent of how many years? He was an officer for 2 years and in training for a few years prior, yet he was privy to super-duper-secret-information.
I'm sorry, but taking this guy's reports as factual and credible shows a vast helping of gullibility.
Why would he do it? Money. You just show how willing you are to subscribe to his conspiracy theories and line his pockets. That much is evident with your belief that you really know what the Mossad motto is.
My point was simply that I will wait and see what an UN investigation turns up and yes I believe that Saddam is capable of funding Palestinians suicide bombers.
Regarding Ostrovsky he had a long career in the Israeli military. I hope after working in the mossad he would know what their motto was. But that doesn't matter. The mossad had been caught in deception.
You are guessing at what Ostrovsky's motives are.
I was unaware that Ostrovsky had said anything regarding this story
Tsa`ah
11-18-2004, 03:09 PM
Fox news 2002 (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html)
Ausie Paper (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/03/25/1017004766310.html?oneclick=true)
CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/03/world/main505316.shtml)
There are tons of links to stories that are in excess of two years old. This isn't a new story at all.
Per Ostrovsky, it would probably be of little interest to you that his bio is very fluffed. From his military career to his intelligence career. Money through sensationalism ... that's Ostrovsky.
Hulkein
11-18-2004, 03:11 PM
You're an anti-Dentite.
Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Fox news 2002 (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html)
Ausie Paper (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/03/25/1017004766310.html?oneclick=true)
CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/03/world/main505316.shtml)
There are tons of links to stories that are in excess of two years old. This isn't a new story at all.
Per Ostrovsky, it would probably be of little interest to you that his bio is very fluffed. From his military career to his intelligence career. Money through sensationalism ... that's Ostrovsky.
Like I said I wouldn't put it passed Saddam, so no suprpise there.
Regarding Ostrovsky, he was a Mossad officer for a least 2 years and was in training with the Mossad for 2 years.
He has received death threats and columnists in Israel have called upon Canadian Jews to kill him.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0195/9501017.htm
You have your opinion of Ostrovsky which you are entitled to. However if you want to convince me that Ostrovsky's bio is full of fluff and that he is only concerned with money prove it.
Tsa`ah
11-18-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by xtc
Regarding Ostrovsky, he was a Mossad officer for a least 2 years and was in training with the Mossad for 2 years.
He has received death threats and columnists in Israel have called upon Canadian Jews to kill him.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0195/9501017.htm
You have your opinion of Ostrovsky which you are entitled to. However if you want to convince me that Ostrovsky's bio is full of fluff and that he is only concerned with money prove it.
Notice that the article is written by Ostrovsky.
It's not that I have to prove his bio is fluffed; it is more that he has to prove that it is not.
Family members have described the man as "shady", "scheming", and "looking for the quick buck".
Ostrovsky claims knowledge of things that no intelligence agency in the world would allow a 2 year officer access to. He can't produce a military record, his place of birth is in question, and even more interesting is that no media outlet I can find provides any detail of the man outside of his book. It's conspirator nonsense.
Look at most books authored by whistle blowers. There is normally concrete proof of their credentials, yet with Ostrovsky ... he wrote the bio and has nothing to back it with.
He points to Israeli attempts to stop publication for evidence that his book is credible, yet leaves out the fact that the ONLY thing the Israeli government wanted was the removal of operative names. The CIA, the FBI, MI5, and CSIS would have done the same.
Did Israel put him on a hit list? Nope, just the deputy PM saying he should be killed. Much in the same way many in the US feel that John Walker Lind should be sucking on the business end of a machine gun.
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