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Vorpodu
01-28-2016, 04:06 PM
Would you change anything? Is Dervish even worth it?

(at level 71), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 250 150
Shield Use.........................| 319 219
Combat Maneuvers...................| 246 146
Edged Weapons......................| 246 146
Ambush.............................| 120 30
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 190 90
Physical Fitness...................| 246 146
Arcane Symbols.....................| 90 20
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20
Harness Power......................| 90 20
Survival...........................| 173 73
Perception.........................| 173 73
Climbing...........................| 150 50
Swimming...........................| 120 30
First Aid..........................| 246 146
Training Points: 0 Phy 100 Mnt (90 Mnt converted to Phy)

your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Specialization I wspec1 5
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 2
Surge of Strength surge 2
Block Mastery bmastery 3
Cunning Defense cdefense 4
Whirling Dervish dervish 3

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 3

your Shield Specialization training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Tower Shield Focus tfocus 5
Shield Bash bash 2
Shield Charge charge 5
Prop Up prop 3
Adamantine Bulwark bulwark 3
Protective Wall pwall 2
Shield Trample trample 5
Shield Trample Mastery tmastery 3

Available Shield Training Points: 1

Aganii
01-31-2016, 04:15 PM
How often are you killing with 2-3 shots of your focused mstrikes? I was a hybrid shield/twc build and trample followed by dervish ambushes or mstrikes was very fun. With Quickstrike it could be even better. However, with straight sword and board it may not trigger enough or be meaningful when it does. With 5 or 6 focused mstrikes it would be likely worth it if you could spare the points.

There is also the possibility of shield strike mastery to add an additional bash (and potential spike/flare) to your second or third target if they are not prone or you cannot kill which could be fun. In the end its alot of points though just for some combat flavor.

Vorpodu
02-03-2016, 12:34 PM
Yea I've noticed that I'm not killing with a focused mstrike enough for dervish to be worth it. I have had procs and it has been fun but not even close to enough to count on. I am having far more success just open ambushing to the head and berserking after a shield trample if the situation calls for it. I'll probably end up dropping dervish and getting shield bash with cman points instead. That way I can get deflection mastery. I'm also probably going to drop shield charge to 3 because it isn't great. Too much RT and can't even be used if you have a rank 2 leg, which I get a lot killing bandits. 3 for the defense against it, though.